But once again, there wouldnt be an issue if the NSA or GCHQ were the ones conducting the spying because of that system you mentioned, the issue is that it was very specifically an NZ agency that did the spying.albino boo said:The precise wording of the enquiry is that GCSB was in the possession of intercepts, they don't know how they got them. As I said in this postThere plenty of all ready established ways around this issue. This is the PM covering himself and that's it.albino boo said:Ok this is just a PR exercise. The standard practice when dealing with intelligence agencies in this situation is say they are acting on information received from a foreign government. They may be banned from spying on NZ citizens and residents but the NSA and GCHQ isn't. Seeing that NZ, US, UK and AUS are all involved in the echelon network you simply take the data out of the server in Fort Meade and email it to NZ. Its a well know dodge that has been used on trans-caribbean drug traffickers for years. In that case its the NSA is banned from operating in the US but the intercepts come from a foreign power over the echelon system.
As to the media reports , I doubt many NZ political journalists know about the 1948 agreement that setup the echelon system or drug smuggling trails in Florida.
From http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/illegal-spying-in-dotcom-case-has-chilling-effect-expert-5101691
Thats the main issue here is that its KNOWN, that an NZ agency illegally monitored Kim Dotcom, and who exactly is responsible is waht is being investigated. Im sure other international agencies are legally allowed to spy on citizens but that isnt an issue becuase they weren't the ones that did it.It has been revealed that the Crown's foreign intelligence agency, the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB), unlawfully intercepted information in the lead up to the police raid at Dotcom's mansion.
Court documents released this afternoon say a police agency sought the help of the Government spy agency the GCSB to track down Kim Dotcom and his associates prior to a raid on his Coatesville mansion.
The documents also show the agency OFCANZ, the Organised and Financial Crime Agency of New Zealand, gave the GCSB an assurance that all those being targeted were foreign nationals.
Also the big crux of this is that the PM wasnt made aware of all of this until a few days ago. You might scoff at that but what has basically happened is the deputy PM(Bill English) while the PM was away, authorized all of this while he was acting PM and never told him.