Newspeak: Language and Meaning

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Labyrinth

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Language is a remarkably powerful thing, one which should never be underestimated. George Orwell demonstrated this in his novel 1984. In it, an oligarchic state endeavours to remove even the possibility of renegade thoughts (thinkcrime) by removing the words needed to express them from the language used. This new language is called Newspeak. Filled with euphemism, oxymoron and far less varied than the language we use today, it is a formidable possibility.

And yet, the words we use have changed and can very easily be manipulated in the media, in politics, and in our own minds.

Take the phrase "collateral damage". To one unfamiliar with it, the combination might might suggest small, unimportant chips to ornaments or glassware as the world moves on. It's a soothing phrase and almost a pleasant one. We can set aside anything which is collateral damage because it's just too small to matter. In short, it's a lie. The phrase is used to subvert listeners' thoughts away from the reality of loss statistics and focus on their own side's (often far fewer) casualties. There might be two hundred thousand people dead as collateral damage, but god forbid that two dozen die from the nation of the broadcaster.

This is just one of the many new terms which are clear attempts to shift public opinion through language. It happens all the time, especially in advertising. Just turn on your television to see it in action. If someone's trying to sell you a product, they just want you to buy it, and they'll make it seem as favourable as possible through the words they use to describe it. A Hungry Jack's (fast-food chain, similar to Burger King) "Whopper" burger is certinally not a large meal.

So I come to a query. Is this shift something to be acutely aware of, and concerned about, or are we better off just going with the flow and ignoring it?

I'd rather be aware and paranoid. The thought of being a puppet to another's words does not appeal to me, especially when that other is selling me something or controlling my life as a government does. Using lies to tell the truth does nothing more than throw a sheet over a dead elephant. It might be a very pretty, well thought out sheet, but sooner or later the corpse will start to smell. In a similar way the facts such as the actual death toll of "collateral damage" become apparent. Unfortunate that action resulting from that does not always occur. The public has every right to know just what it's government is doing so that the government may be afraid of its people, and act humbly, in the best interest of the whole population rather than just the bureaucrats.
 

SmilingKitsune

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Labyrinth, your wisdom continues to amaze me.
And if thinking about this makes me paranoid then paranoid I am.
 

Antidamacus

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Spin isn't going anywhere.

There are levels of messages you aren't even aware of. As much as we try to see through what's been placed up for us, there is always another layer there.

People just naturally hide things from other people.
 

Labyrinth

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Optimus Prime said:
You don't need language to think. That's my philosophy.
What else would they use?

SmilingKitsune said:
Labyrinth, your wisdom continues to amaze me.
And if thinking about this makes me paranoid then paranoid I am.
Well umm.. thank you.
 

DirkGently

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I think people should definitely be aware of just what another person is saying to another. It's quite important to pay attention to just what someone is saying and what they're to do. While we shouldn't necessarily try to resist changes to the language itself, we should certainly be aware of what they are and what they represent.
 

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Its been happening for a while. Look at War on terror/war on drugs. One is a feeling, the other an inanimate object. Can they really be one side of a war?. Both make catchy headlines for government agenda.

The word conflict is used instead of war/occupation, enemy combatant, surely you are a soldier or a civilian?

Extraordinary rendition is a new term for moving someone to a country that will torture a prisoner for you. All of this is used to Spin a sanitised view of a government agenda. After Vietnam the governments became savy to how powerful the media can be on public opinion so they started on the PR offensive.

The Israelis using tanks, air strikes, cluster bombs and White phospherous on civilian areas was described as a "disproportionate response", this was by leaders being critical. Surely when this happens else where its war crimes?

Unfortunately a lot of people buy into the propaganda. I regularly hear people explain away gitmo with "theyre enemy combatants and have no rights". 10 years ago there was no such thing and we were all in agreement that everyone has basic rights. People are sheep.

Its usually Americans under a cloud of blind patriotism that spit that line. The sameones who dont get that one mans terrorist is another mans freedomfighter. Cleaver word play? Many of the French who opposed the nazis were branded terrorists, as was nelson mandela. The IRA got much of its weaponry and funding from America during its violent history. This only really stopped George W got on his soap box over tough on terror. (Would tough on love work?)

*Gets off soap box*
 

Good morning blues

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This is a difficult topic! On the one hand, it's easy to subvert and destroy this effect by being suspicious of every message you receive. On the other hand, the vast majority of people do not do this, and it continues because it works. We now have "post-traumatic stress disorder" instead of "shellshock," "climate change" instead of "global warming" and "layoffs" instead of "mass firings." I don't really have a solution. You can try to call attention to these distortions and half-truths, but you can't achieve the same level of widespread attention as the duplicitous fuckers coming up with these phrases.

Edit: Even the phenomenon is affected by itself. We now have "spin" and "public relations" instead of "lies," "deceit" and "misleading rhetoric."
 

Labyrinth

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Good morning blues said:
Even the phenomenon is affected by itself. We now have "spin" and "public relations" instead of "lies," "deceit" and "misleading rhetoric."
Funny that. In the same way people are avoiding the term "recession" like the plague because they think it'll just further upset the global market to use it.
 
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So, you´re talking about soft language (or whatever you call it)? It´s not just bureaucrats fooling the public, some euphemisms are formed by the public to fool themselves. Death is one thing we don´t like to think about, so we have lots of cute little nicknames for it. We call old people "senior citizen" to avert ourselves from the fact, that we grow old and eventually die. It´s alright to feel paranoid and be aware that we are being subtly controlled by the government, but it might also do good to be aware of our own self-deception (and by this self-deception, I mean public´s tendency to accept and adopt these euphemisms to their everyday life, because they sound good).

Concerning government´s control over the public, it´s a tricky question. On one hand, as a part of the society individual citizen has to give up some of his/her freedom, so that the goverment could administer the society as a whole. One citizen cannot tell, what´s good for the whole group, because of his/her limited perspective. The reason why they don´t tell us, how many of our kind died, is (usually) because of communal integrity (I am very much aware, that this kind of disinformation can also be used for bureaucrat´s persol gains).
On the other hand, public should have freedom to resist the government, when they are obviously acting against the good of the community. We should be aware of the methods used to control us. Whether you actually want to go with the flow or paddle against it, it´s completely up to you. Do you want to live in paranoid awareness or in fool´s paradise?
 

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While its true that misleading language is rife in marketing, politics and many other fields, I don't think theres anything particularly sinister about its usage at the moment.

Its hardly a new thing, although if a deliberate attempt to selectively eliminate the language used by the common populace was made, I would be very concerned. This already happens to an extent with 'political correctness',but the views are still expressable (for now...).There are already enough social quirks imbedded into languages from times past already. For example, think about the colourful array of derogatory terms available to describe a promiscuous woman in English; whore, slut etc. No comparable list regarding men. Social views from an archaic society still restrict our vocabulary. This kind of thing is much more sinister to me than the smoke and mirrors artifices of PR or advertising.
 

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Optimus Prime said:
You don't need language to think. That's my philosophy.
The problem that Orwell describes is partly to do with the ability to think about subverting The Party, though that would be the end stage of Newspeak. The immediate danger is that, with Newspeak, you can't articulate any negative thoughts against The Party. What's the point of thinking if it produces no action? When you die, your thoughts die with you, but words allow you to transfer your thoughts to another, who can continue where you left off. With Newspeak destroying that, your heretical thoughts die with you.

As for the topic, I don't actually think a government can institute something like Newspeak as a language, nor can anybody, or anything, else. People may be stupid, but there are still too many people out there too aware to allow such a thing to happen. Perhaps I'm just too optimistic.
 

Zetona

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What you stated is well written, completely true, and fairly obvious by now. As long as something can be exploited, it will be exploited.

Of course, the key to ending such exploitation is education.

When I run for president of the United States in 20-odd years, you can bet that will be in my stock speech.
 

sandgoose

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So then, I am given to understand that spin is such a new concept to you that you think people need a short essay and a reference to 1984 to get it?

You aren't deep kid, just young.
 

Lord Beautiful

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I must admit, I consider these things as well. When I first read 1984, I came to the realization that Orwell was a freaking prophet, as modern political correctness seems to be the foundation upon which something along the lines of Newspeak would be constructed. All we need to do is give this trend a few more decades to grow, acknowledge that two plus two equals whatever the government wills it, and learn to give social and financial control to the government, and we'll turn into the most progressive (and I mean this in the modern sense) society ever!
 

Labyrinth

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sandgoose said:
So then, I am given to understand that spin is such a new concept to you that you think people need a short essay and a reference to 1984 to get it?

You aren't deep kid, just young.
Condescending my ideas is not exactly a good way to get discussion flowing. It's not a new idea, not even close. This is a thread aimed at examining the language used in spin as a continued event rather than a revelation. Would what I have said be any different if the words came from someone much older?
 

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I think, we build a unique language, word for word, later, some wanted to live for themselves, without the acknowledge of the others and build their own language. But i think, we were kidding enough now and search the way to our oldest connections, to find the way, life works without killing our manifested central brain (i don't write Planet, i write Planer).
 

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sandgoose said:
So then, I am given to understand that spin is such a new concept to you that you think people need a short essay and a reference to 1984 to get it?

You aren't deep kid, just young.
The goal was to discuss, not to enlighten.

Calm down.