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How about have it take place in like Hawaii but like the fallout caused the jungle to grow raptly and mutate much of the flora and fawna
Who's to say that Europe didn't construct nuclear bunkers or it's own version of Vaults during or before the resource wars?Ultratwinkie said:
The Vaults are estimated to have cost something like 600 billion dollars, which is a lot of money yes- but the vaults were constructed to last some 900 years and also serve as a social experiment. They could have been made a lot cheaper.Ultratwinkie said:
The Fallout Bible isn't purely definitive, it's the result of a long Q&A session with one of the video game designers, Chris Avellone. The Fallout Universe isn't the product of this one man's imagination, rather it a general consensus of ideas between the producers of the Fallout games. What Avellone say's isn't strictly canon, unless perhaps he has unanimous agreement of all the authors behind the Fallout universe- which is unlikely.
Plus, wouldn't it make the Fallout series more interesting if there were different continents which held survivors rather than being restricted to American soil? There could be some pretty interesting mutations in Latin America, Europe could have gone steampunk, Japan could have...well, you the Japanese affinity for mecha's, and if the American's made Liberty Prime that opens the doors for the Japanese to have made a few of their own.
The reason why so many of the vaults failed was because their purpose was experimentation. For instance, Vault 27 was deliberately over crowded, 34 over-stocked with weapons and the inhabitants of vault 106 were subject to Psychoactive drugs. Other vaults such as vault 76 and vault 8 were control vaults, designed to open after 20 years and were successful. Because the controls vaults were only meant to be inhabited for a short space of time and didn't have the additional costs of experimentation, they would have been more affordable.Ultratwinkie said:
Theoretically, China or Europe could have constructed vaults designed to protect maybe less than a hundred inhabitants for a space of about six months- these vaults would have come at a fraction of the cost of the Vaultec Vaults.
The Fallout bible has gone through nine, perhaps 10 volumes, and isn't to be considered gospel. As Avellone writes in Fallout Bible 0: Ideally, the information contained in these updates will be revised in the future based on your comments and possible evidence gathered from within the game. So, this does leave room for alternations to allow for human survivors outside of America if the Fallout fan's want it to be.
I doubt Europe could, with the resource war, Eruope was basicaly destroyed and then was hit by nukes. Plus the vaults were origanlly going to be used just to see how Humans would react, they never thought they would actually have to use them. From this its easy to conclude that people weren't rushing to build them all around the world because they never thought it would come to a nuclear war.Nickolai77 said:
I'm with Nickolai; I haven't read the "Fallout Bible" myself, but I see no reason why they couldn't devise some scenario by which people on other continents survived. Hell, that would make an excellent story for a Fallout game, wouldn't it? Your character manages to get some kind of pre-war communication device working and gets in contact with people outside of America, and the game eventually leads to meeting this new "race" of humans/human-like individuals.Nickolai77 said:
Failing that, Americans get some kind of boat working and decide to recolonise England. Adventures ensue.
This, I was looking forward to that place ever since the android quest, and when Doctor Madison Lee left to the institute i was feeling that they would create a new DLC, then enter Fallout new vegas, with it's superior writing and funnier quests it was the death of all my Fallout 3 needs and dreams, apart from this one. I want to go to the institute and groinkick that old geezer!GodsOneMistake said:
Soviet.... I wanna fight REAL mutated bears not some shitty yao guais.
Also, I want a... Kalashnikov
Also, I want a... Kalashnikov
Fallout is probably a bit inconsistent with the devastation that the bombs caused versus their power. According to Wikia, most of the ( There are a couple of exceptions such as the one which landed on DC) of the nuclear bombs used in the Great War where equivalent to that of those used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, about 10-20 kilatons, which have a blast radius of no more than 3000 yards (about 1 and 3/4 of a mile- but for i'll round it up to 2 miles.) Unless every 2 square miles of US, Russian, Chinese and European soil took a direct hit from one of these weapons it's hard to believe that an ordinary nuclear bunker would have been damaged by the blast when most such bunkers would have been outside the blast radius.Ultratwinkie said:
Europe alone is 3,837,000 Sq. Miles, if you wanted to wipe out Europe alone, and assuming that a nuclear bunker caught in the blast radius would be annihilated, you would need 1,918,500 nuclear bombs to wipe out that continent alone. Now, i doubt it says anywhere just how many nukes Europe, America, China and Russia shared between them in the fallout universe- but i don't think it comes to more than a million. Even if i bump it up to a generous estimate of five million, that won't be enough to coat the US, Europe, China and Russia with nuclear fires, assuming most of these nuclear weapons are 10-20 kilatons.
If you want to defend this plot hole then fine by me, but i contend that even by fictional standards it is unreasonable to suppose that there is no life whatsoever beyond American borders.
Disclaimer: If my maths is incorrect, my bad, for it was never my strongest subject.
