NGP Will Run Downloadable PSP Games, Says Sony

[esperandote]

*snip*

We seem to be in a bit of a pickle, because your confusion is confusing me right back. Could you expand on your point a little?

In the end I understood I just got a little confused at first because of the part that says that the NGP will run PSP games (just not all of them). I undestand PSP games as UMD and downloadable games as PSP GO games. But maybe I'm nitpicking.

But just to make it clear.

NGP: NO UMD (PSP 1000-3000) games, YES digital (PSP GO) games?

 

[Truly-A-Lie]

So, is PSP GO games not PSP games? *confused*

Look at it this way - There's no such thing as PSPgo games. There are PSP games on 2 formats: UMD and Digital. The PSPgo plays the PSP games on digital format. The NGP will also support those digital games but not the UMDs.

 

[-Seraph-]

Uh...wasn't this a given? I mean we saw them playing Monster Hunter 3 on the thing, and it was obvious that you'd be able to carry over your digitally purchased PSP games over to the device.

I am only concerned about us PSP owners who have amassed a large backlog of UMD games. I always buy physical copies and while I know my PSP won't spontaneously vanish the second I buy a PSP2, I don't want to have to rebuy my games or carry around 2 systems at once. I want some method of being able to play my PSP1 games on my new PSP2 for convenience, and when there are no currently interesting titles to purchase on the PSP2.

Some sort of UMD-Drive add-on, or a method of making legal ISOs of our games would be great. It's just more convenient than having to lug around two systems in that odd case I want to play Dissidia or Peace walker instead of Uncharted or Call of Duty.

 

[omicron1]

I reiterate: Sony needs to include Emotion Engine emulation on the PSP2. The system should be powerful enough for it; they need an excuse to reinstate the technology on the PS3; and having access to Ico or Shadow of the Colossus on the go would make this system literally a must-have for me, and I'm sure for many other people as well.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

*snip*

We seem to be in a bit of a pickle, because your confusion is confusing me right back. Could you expand on your point a little?

In the end I understood I just got a little confused at first because of the part that says that the NGP will run PSP games (just not all of them). I undestand PSP games as UMD and downloadable games as PSP GO games. But maybe I'm nitpicking.

But just to make it clear.

NGP: NO UMD (PSP 1000-3000) games, YES digital (PSP GO) games?

Ah, I see what you mean now. Despite your confusion, you've hit the nail on the head with your short version.

 

[Iglock]

Can't say I didn't expect that.

I don't own any PSP games so I don't mind buying digital versions of those- however I do own PS1 and PS2 games. Sony should really have some way of officially converting physical discs (PS1 CDs, PS2 DVDs and PSP UMDs) to digital form.
Even if I had to buy extra hardware to do so, I still would rather that than buy my whole library of Playstation games over again (most of which aren't even available in the European PSN store ).

But I doubt that will ever happen, so I'll probably just wait to buy an NGP once it gets custom firmware (which will inevitably happen at some point), rip, transfer and emulate my games on the NGP myself and save a load of money.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Backwards compatibly has been a prickly issue for Sony in the past, after it removed it from the PS3. The absence of the feature clearly isn't a deal breaker - the PS3 continued to sell, after all - but all the same, being able to play older games, as well as new ones, is always going to be a point in a console's favor.

They kind of continued to sell. I know the absence of that feature turned at least 5 of my friends off to the ps3. One got a 360 instead, another stuck to the PC for this gen (and I kind of envy him), and the others either just got a wii or just play their ps2s still: let?s face it, they haven?t made any games for the current gen that surpass the best games of the last generation. This generation has yet to get its own Burnout 3, San Andreas, or Katamari. Sure they?ve come out with continuations for those franchises in this gen but the only one that?s improved in this gen was Katamari and they were very small improvements. In the opinion of a lot of next gen holdouts I know, RE, GTA, & Burnout have gone down the tubes this gen. Sure there are some good new/returning franchises but nothing better or revolutionary from what we saw last gen.

The other factor holding back many are the prices and that?s another thing that?s going to kill the psp2.
The main reason I see this devise failing though is Sony. My ps3 feels like a big expensive box of wasted potential and I?m not interested in buying another devise that ?could? do all sorts of wonderful things but wont because sony is either afraid of hackers or can?t be bothered to give it half decent support.

Which brings up another point, just because it has backwards compatibility now doesn?t mean that they wont take it away later. I can see psp users having to make the decision a lot of ps3 users have had to make: keep a particular feature or keep the ability to go online with the machine.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Which brings up another point, just because it has backwards compatibility now doesn?t mean that they wont take it away later. I can see psp users having to make the decision a lot of ps3 users have had to make: keep a particular feature or keep the ability to go online with the machine.

When did they remove that feature from ps3's that were backwards compatible? last i checked, it never happed and your just paranoid. They did stop producing ps3's with hardware emulation to run them, but ps3's that were built before then still do. The vast majority were built after they took out that feature but the few built before still function. Plus it was removed to reduce cost, cause something had to be removed.

I never said they did that yet but they can if they wanted to and I'm convinced that they will if they ever start selling ps2 games on psn. Or they'll release an update that will "unexpectedly & accidentally" brick those launch consoles. The "oops, sorry about that" update. Now THAT's paranoia... and yet I wouldn't put it past them.

However sony did take out the Other OS function which does prove that they can take away any function they want. That way, if the new games aren't selling well, they might discover a hacking threat that will "force" them to take away BC.

My point is that while you own the machine, Sony apparently owns the firmware. So if you want to take the thing onto their network, you're at their mercy and they can take away all sorts of functions.

Considering the crappy support Sony and developers has shown the ps3, I wouldn't even buy this thing with a stolen credit card.

 

[mjc0961]

Sure you will Sony. I've heard this party line before when the PSP Go came out, and oh look, the store is still ridiculously bare.

I never said they did that yet but they can if they wanted to and I'm convinced that they will if they ever start selling ps2 games on psn. Or they'll release an update that will "unexpectedly & accidentally" brick those launch consoles. The "oops, sorry about that" update. Now THAT's paranoia... and yet I wouldn't put it past them.

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them either after the shit they pulled with Install Other OS. And if they did pull that, I'd be joining in on one of the resulting new false advertising lawsuits. At the very least, they owe everyone who had a BC model a PS2 and a memory card adapter in that situation.

 

[GonzoGamer]

Which brings up another point, just because it has backwards compatibility now doesn?t mean that they wont take it away later. I can see psp users having to make the decision a lot of ps3 users have had to make: keep a particular feature or keep the ability to go online with the machine.

When did they remove that feature from ps3's that were backwards compatible? last i checked, it never happed and your just paranoid. They did stop producing ps3's with hardware emulation to run them, but ps3's that were built before then still do. The vast majority were built after they took out that feature but the few built before still function. Plus it was removed to reduce cost, cause something had to be removed.

I never said they did that yet but they can if they wanted to and I'm convinced that they will if they ever start selling ps2 games on psn. Or they'll release an update that will "unexpectedly & accidentally" brick those launch consoles. The "oops, sorry about that" update. Now THAT's paranoia... and yet I wouldn't put it past them.

However sony did take out the Other OS function which does prove that they can take away any function they want. That way, if the new games aren't selling well, they might discover a hacking threat that will "force" them to take away BC.

My point is that while you own the machine, Sony apparently owns the firmware. So if you want to take the thing onto their network, you're at their mercy and they can take away all sorts of functions.

Considering the crappy support Sony and developers has shown the ps3, I wouldn't even buy this thing with a stolen credit card.

they already do sell ps2 games on the psn and have for quite some time. As for support, I own both an xbox360 and a ps3 and find the exclusives better on the ps3, while some companies release inferior ports on it, others embrace it and give it great support. My guess is you own an xbox360 only i may be wrong but just guessing

Really? How big is the catalog of ps2 games on psn? I never seen/heard of them.
Actually, you are wrong but I sometimes wish you were right. Check out my profile. I own a ps3 but not a 360: the thing is, at the time I was shopping for a console half of the 360s were bricking. I just resent the fact that for the ?gamer? this generation our choice was between the magical melting console and one that get?s the worst support ever. They were charging enough for the damn things, is quality too much to ask for? Honestly, if it wasn?t for the rrod and a pay-to-play online, I would be a 360 owner right now.
The ps3 would?ve been a great machine if they opened it up like they said they were going to do but they only seem to want to sandbag it. Where are all the full HD games, where?s all the extra content they were going to cram on those huge BR discs, where are the games that link extra features to the psp, games at 60fps, and honestly, I would be a lot happier if they would just make the custom soundtrack available for every game rather than 4 or 5 where the devs patched it in.
I?ve found that the ?exclusives? for both consoles to be pretty lackluster too. Saying one is a bit better is like arguing over who has the best burgers: White Castle or Jacks. They?re both crap but you might have a preference for one when you?re wasted enough.
Maybe I?m just becoming a crabby old man but it just seems like gamers have really gotten the crap end of the stick this gen and as things are just getting worse. That?s why I?m not even going to bother with a console when the next gen rolls around.