Kibeth41 said:
I pulled a line out that I particularly wanted to address, as a way of keeping the size of the post small. But I addressed your post as a whole. There's no point in having a large wall of text when both me and you know what we're talking about, and anyone else can simply click on the name in the quote to see the whole thing.
Your reply to that line seemed to be missing the context of the rest of what I said, other wise I'd not have mentioned that it felt like quote mining. You seemed to misunderstand what my post was driving at, which is why I didn't want to out and out accuse you of doing anything disingenuous. It seemed more like a misunderstanding, that's all.
Kibeth41 said:
Honestly, the most Niantic have done wrong in this situation is not given enough insight to the community as to what's happening. But that's hardly reason enough for the amount of rabid fan backlash that the game has received.
I disagree, the most they have done wrong is to give the community a broken tracking system and respond to the fact that it's broken by disabling it and any alternative to it. Adding a lack of transparent communication to that only makes the problem worse. While the first of these things isn't bad, as you and I have agreed, the second is a major issue because tracking is, to many, many users, a fundamentally important part of the game. You don't seem to feel that way and that's fine, but that leads us to your last comment here.
Kibeth41 said:
People who have put money into the game don't have any right to complain about a feature that was removed to make the game playable. None of the paid for features have been affected by this change. In fact, assuming that someone is paying money for the microtransactions, then they're completely bypassing the part of the game that the feature removal affects.
You assert that even paying players have no right to complain but I don't see how that's true. Even if the argument that you gave to support this assertion were true (and since it's based on excluding relevant facts, it's not) your assertion still wouldn't be true. People simply do have the right to complain about products and services they use. Even forgetting the grand, meta argument about rights, having the paying portion of your player base criticize the thing they are paying for is not only justified, it's damned important. Better they make a fuss and show Niantec how important tracking is to their experience of the game than simply take their money and quit playing.
As to your specific supporting argument though, I say it isn't true because lures and incense are not the only things you can buy, nor do either of those items render a working tracking system moot. While both can mitigate the need for tracking, it's still very useful to know what's around you that isn't merely a product of the lure/incense. What's more, buying a crap-ton of pokeballs so you can go catch pokemon is directly affected by the rest of the mechanics of the game and especially by your ability to hunt down what you want. If one drops cash to buy the balls to catch the pokemon, one is very justified in wanting a tracking function, complaining that there now isn't one, and being irked that their experience of the game has changed in a way they don't prefer.
So unless you can show how buying extra pokeballs bypasses the need for tracking or how the use of said pokeballs isn't affected by the lack of tracking, I don't see how your supporting argument demonstrates your assertion.
