Night People and Another Topic

[Julianking93]

I just recently got into an argument with my parents over the upcoming school year. For those of you who don't know, I'm home schooled, mainly because I despise the American school system and believe it to be a manifestation of Satan.

So, back on topic, I was driving with my dad to my last day of work (which I've been doing Since the middle of May) at 8:00 in the morning. We made small talk as usually but the conversation somehow became about school, which I wasn't surprised, it had to come up sooner or later.

But, during the conversation, he began to plan out a schedule. He said that I'll wake up at 7:30 and begin my work from there. That's were this became an argument.

First of all, he hasn't even registered me for school yet (and I'm 98% sure that he only has another 3 days to do it) Secondly why exactly can't I just get up later during the day and do my work? I've told him countless times that I tend to focus more at night and I can't ever get to sleep, no matter how early I try to go to bed, before 2 or 3 in the morning.

So it becomes a long argument concerning my future and how I'm never motivated to do anything. (He seems to forget I have a job when none of my friends my age do)

And I see what he's trying to say and that he's just looking after me and he's concerned, but he's bitching at me because of my "lack of motivation" when it took him over a year to finally register me for home school.

So my 2 questions to my fellow Escapists are this:

-Who do you think is right in this argument? Do you think he has a point? Do you think he's full of shit? Do you think I don't know what I'm talking about? Or what?

-Second, how do you work? Do you tend to focus more as the day goes on? Or are you a morning person like my mum who goes to bed at 8 at night?

 

[quiet_samurai]

He's your father, his house his rules.

Maybe after doing it his way for a while you can reach a comprimise.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

 

[RedPandaMan]

Well, if you're home schooled, it probably should be up to your parents/tutors to make the schedule, seeing as they're the ones who have to go out of their way to teach you, and shouldn't have to base their life around yours. Admittedly, 7:30 sucks and 10:00 is when you should start: see if you can make a compromise.

Secondly, I focus much better 8:00 pm to 1:00 am, and find it easier to do tasks, but that may just be due to my current sleep schedule. I'm a night owl.

 

[Robert632]

i think he has a point, as when you get whatever job you want when you stop school, you'll probabably have to wake up early, but you also had a job, which you probably woke up early for to, so his claim was pretty pointless, if that is the case of course.

i work best in the afternoon, as in the morning i'm to tired, and in the evening i just can't seem to focus.

 

[Julianking93]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

Too bad I did. He still doesn't give me any credit for it. He barely even acknowledges it.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

Too bad I did. He still doesn't give me any credit for it. He barely even acknowledges it.

Hmm... if I know parents, that means he knows you're right. What is the nature of your work?

 

[Julianking93]

Well, if you're home schooled, it probably should be up to your parents/tutors to make the schedule, seeing as they're the ones who have to go out of their way to teach you, and shouldn't have to base their life around yours. Admittedly, 7:30 sucks and 10:00 is when you should start: see if you can make a compromise.

Secondly, I focus much better 8:00 pm to 1:00 am, and find it easier to do tasks, but that may just be due to my current sleep schedule. I'm a night owl.

Thats just it. We don't even do traditional home school. I do all my studies myself while both my parents are at work. Its not even real work. He just gives me a topic for that day and I go on the internet and study it for about an hour, then he asks me what I learned then thats it. And every time I did this, it would be either at night or at the very least 5 in the afternoon

 

[Julianking93]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

Too bad I did. He still doesn't give me any credit for it. He barely even acknowledges it.

Hmm... if I know parents, that means he knows you're right. What is the nature of your work?

I've worked 5 hours a day every time there is a break from school (which means Christmas, Easter, spring, summer, and fall breaks) with kids ranging from 3-12 everyday. So, I'm a camp counselor and I've been doing this for the last 5 fucking years!

 

[TheNumber1Zero]

matters not because

He's your father, his house his rules.

so you kinda have not much choice.try if wanting,but waste voice shall you

 

[walls of cetepedes]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

Too bad I did. He still doesn't give me any credit for it. He barely even acknowledges it.

Hmm... if I know parents, that means he knows you're right. What is the nature of your work?

I've worked 5 hours a day every time there is a break from school (which means Christmas, Easter, spring, summer, and fall breaks) with kids ranging from 3-12 everyday. So, I'm a camp counselor and I've been doing this for the last 5 fucking years!

Ahh... so I am correct. He knows you do it, but that's a problem for him, as now you have a way to get back at him, so he mentions it as little as possible. If you're ever discussing it, does he try and change the subject? Or exclaim "Thats not the point!"?

 

[plastic_window]

I just recently got into an argument with my parents over the upcoming school year. For those of you who don't know, I'm home schooled, mainly because I despise the American school system and believe it to be a manifestation of Satan.

But I've never even been to America! Haw haw haw...

On topic - my mum's a lecturer at University and she's been studying this for a while so she can give better advice to her students. It's true that there are people who tend to focus more at a specific time of day, but I think you'd need to really proove to your dad that you're more capable of learning at night. And also that it would be worth it to do so.

 

[Emphraim]

Well, if you're home schooled, it probably should be up to your parents/tutors to make the schedule, seeing as they're the ones who have to go out of their way to teach you, and shouldn't have to base their life around yours. Admittedly, 7:30 sucks and 10:00 is when you should start: see if you can make a compromise.

Secondly, I focus much better 8:00 pm to 1:00 am, and find it easier to do tasks, but that may just be due to my current sleep schedule. I'm a night owl.

Thats just it. We don't even do traditional home school. I do all my studies myself while both my parents are at work. Its not even real work. He just gives me a topic for that day and I go on the internet and study it for about an hour, then he asks me what I learned then thats it. And every time I did this, it would be either at night or at the very least 5 in the afternoon

If that's all you need to do, then there actually is no reason to wake you up at 7:30 since you can just do it anytime during the day? If that's the case, and it only takes an hour to finish work, then yeah he should let you wake up whenever you want, especially if you have a job.

 

[Julianking93]

Firstly, I would side with you, but you should remind him about your job.

Secondly, It's 2:30am here and it feels like 5pm to me.

Too bad I did. He still doesn't give me any credit for it. He barely even acknowledges it.

Hmm... if I know parents, that means he knows you're right. What is the nature of your work?

I've worked 5 hours a day every time there is a break from school (which means Christmas, Easter, spring, summer, and fall breaks) with kids ranging from 3-12 everyday. So, I'm a camp counselor and I've been doing this for the last 5 fucking years!

Ahh... so I am correct. He knows you do it, but that's a problem for him, as now you have a way to get back at him, so he mentions it as little as possible. If you're ever discussing it, does he try and change the subject? Or exclaim "Thats not the point!"?

He never asks first of all. He'll never ask, "How was your day?" And if I ever bring it up he'll just be like "Thats cool" and then change the subject

 

[Julianking93]

I just recently got into an argument with my parents over the upcoming school year. For those of you who don't know, I'm home schooled, mainly because I despise the American school system and believe it to be a manifestation of Satan.

But I've never even been to America! Haw haw haw...

On topic - my mum's a lecturer at University and she's been studying this for a while so she can give better advice to her students. It's true that there are people who tend to focus more at a specific time of day, but I think you'd need to really proove to your dad that you're more capable of learning at night. And also that it would be worth it to do so.

I have proved to him though. All last year I did all my work at night and I aced all my "classes" especially Environmental Science and Algebra II yet he still thinks I need to get up early

 

[APPCRASH]

Kids these days... they ***** about everything. OH NO! Not 7:30 in the morning! It's terrible when kids think they know whats best for them. I recommend growing up.

 

[Julianking93]

Definitely sympathize with you. Been a night owl since childhood, but in the real world, you may have a day job and need to get up early. I know I do, well I have two, nights on week-ends days during the week and it sucks, cause I am tired during the day. That's life though, you don't always get what you want. If your parents are the teachers, maybe they are not night people, maybe the don't want to stay up late and have to work to teach you. Sorry, he's your father, and the teacher? Deal with it.

Like I said before to RedPandaMan. We don't do regular home school. He doesn't teach me, I teach myself.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

He never asks first of all. He'll never ask, "How was your day?" And if I ever bring it up he'll just be like "Thats cool" and then change the subject

So he dodges the subject altogether? Press him on the subject, go into detail about what you did.

 

[leviathanmisha]

Be lucky you aren't me...I had to wake up @ 5:45 in the morning and be out of the door by 6:30 in the morning, so I could take a class that started @ 7 AM.

I concentrate pretty well no matter what time I wake up...so I would prefer waking up earlier and getting everything done quicker...but I'm not home schooled, so I'm not sure how that works.

 

[Julianking93]

He never asks first of all. He'll never ask, "How was your day?" And if I ever bring it up he'll just be like "Thats cool" and then change the subject

So he dodges the subject altogether? Press him on the subject, go into detail about what you did.

I do. He never really reacts to it. If I tell him what I did he'll just go, "uh hm" "that's interesting" and act like he's barley listening.