Super Mario Sunshine?Mr.Mattress said:I've been waiting for a Mario Game like this since Super Mario 64!
Super Mario Sunshine?Mr.Mattress said:I've been waiting for a Mario Game like this since Super Mario 64!
Wasn't "forced wedding" also part of the plot in Super Paper Mario?Mr.Mattress said:More then that! Not only is he kidnapping Peach; this time he's actually forcing a wedding between himself and her! It's a major improvement. Better then "I'm just gonna hold her here and do nothing with her".Johnny Novgorod said:... Bowser kidnaps Peach?Mr.Mattress said:and what little story we've gotten is very intriguing already.
Hey, if they are calling it Super Mario Odyssey, why not get inspiration from the actual Odyssey.Bindal said:Wasn't "forced wedding" also part of the plot in Super Paper Mario?Mr.Mattress said:More then that! Not only is he kidnapping Peach; this time he's actually forcing a wedding between himself and her! It's a major improvement. Better then "I'm just gonna hold her here and do nothing with her".Johnny Novgorod said:... Bowser kidnaps Peach?Mr.Mattress said:and what little story we've gotten is very intriguing already.
See, it's not the Open World that's making me go 'god dammit', it's the Sandbox part that's making me go 'god dammit'. There's only so many disjointed mini-games and thousands of collectibles to be arbitrarily hunted down before I want something that isn't a friggin' sandbox for once. Now, maybe I'm just burnt out because we're drowning in poorly done open-world sandboxes right now and maybe they're going to do something interesting for the genre (god I hope so), but at the same time, still not feeling all too confident in it given how many AAA games have had 'open-world sandbox' slapped onto them without any thought put into the matter.Mr.Mattress said:I've been waiting for a Mario Game like this since Super Mario 64! (With Realistic Humans added in it for some reason...)
I'm already sold on this game. The Hat Mechanic looks great, the Graphics are absolutely fantastic, and what little story we've gotten is very intriguing already.
Fun Fact: Mario was actually one of the first Franchises to do that: Turn from 2D and Linear into 3D and Open World.Wrex Brogan said:Open World. Mario. Sandbox. Why?(SNIP)Hell Mario started off as a linear game (quite literally), his is the last fucking franchise that needs this kind of bullshit tacked on. God dammit.
What you say makes sense and i understand the issue that the word "sandbox" has been applied to a lot of cookie cutter games of late. But remember that Nintendo marketing execs are a little bit stupid and behind on the times and are quite possibly looking at the word "sandbox" as a good buzzword to throw into the marketing rhetoric bullshit that we all have to deal with. They also compared it to the "sandbox" of Mario 64 and sunshine if you take note. So I recommend the cautious optimism for now. These words of us humans are powerful things, aren't they?Wrex Brogan said:See, it's not the Open World that's making me go 'god dammit', it's the Sandbox part that's making me go 'god dammit'. There's only so many disjointed mini-games and thousands of collectibles to be arbitrarily hunted down before I want something that isn't a friggin' sandbox for once. Now, maybe I'm just burnt out because we're drowning in poorly done open-world sandboxes right now and maybe they're going to do something interesting for the genre (god I hope so), but at the same time, still not feeling all too confident in it given how many AAA games have had 'open-world sandbox' slapped onto them without any thought put into the matter.
I hope it's just them misusing a marketing term - as cynical as I am towards the games industry these days, I still like being wrong about these kinds of things.Xsjadoblayde said:What you say makes sense and i understand the issue that the word "sandbox" has been applied to a lot of cookie cutter games of late. But remember that Nintendo marketing execs are a little bit stupid and behind on the times and are quite possibly looking at the word "sandbox" as a good buzzword to throw into the marketing rhetoric bullshit that we all have to deal with. They also compared it to the "sandbox" of Mario 64 and sunshine if you take note. So I recommend the cautious optimism for now. These words of us humans are powerful things, aren't they?Wrex Brogan said:See, it's not the Open World that's making me go 'god dammit', it's the Sandbox part that's making me go 'god dammit'. There's only so many disjointed mini-games and thousands of collectibles to be arbitrarily hunted down before I want something that isn't a friggin' sandbox for once. Now, maybe I'm just burnt out because we're drowning in poorly done open-world sandboxes right now and maybe they're going to do something interesting for the genre (god I hope so), but at the same time, still not feeling all too confident in it given how many AAA games have had 'open-world sandbox' slapped onto them without any thought put into the matter.
...we got Sonic Adventure?MeatMachine said:Remember what happened last time we had a platforming cartoon mascot who co-existed with psuedo-realistic humans?]