Nintendo "Juggling Too Many Balls" to Support Wii Right Now

[Atmos Duality]

Oh please. Skyward Sword and maybe two more titles in the future will send the Wii off so it can die with some dignity...only to have its corpse savagely raped by even more shovelware.

The main reason to keep the Wii on life-support now is because Nintendo is either working on an actual Next-Gen system (I consider the Wii to be Last-Generation; an upgraded Gamecube really), or they're putting all their effort into the 3DS.

Either way, don't expect to see dick coming out for the Wii after those last few 1st-party titles. At least nothing that will impress anyone beyond the age of 5.

 

[GonzoGamer]

When will they get it through their thick skulls: the first party support for the Wii is great. It's the third party support that's really, really lame.

It started off pretty interesting with things like Bully, Trauma Center, and RE4 popping up but it really hasn't gone anywhere since.

It's sad but at this point I would be happy if they just re-released more wiimakes of great titles from last gen like Burnout Revenge.

 

[CheckD3]

How about we get a new Metroid Game, one that either allows you to move in first person, or keeps it all the 3D styled 2D gameplay, and has a story similar to the older games that were so fucking awesome. That and having Jennifer Hale continue to do her voice if they wanted her to talk. They use for the Prime trilogy, and you have a voice actress with the skills she has the large history of awesomeness, and you replace her?

It's getting to boring just complaining about them remaking franchise after franchise. How about they work on a Metroid game that gets back to what Metroid Prime (the entire trilogy was), a work of awesome. Metroid is the series that I'd buy for the rest of my life, I would like the game to be good at least, thank you very much.

 

[Okysho]

I call Bullshit and shenanigans!
If last year's E3 taught me anything, it's that Nintendo cares for nothing but selling the Wii to old age homes! 80% of their games at E3 were for the DS or 3DS and I don't even remember seeing pokemon black and white at their press conference.

Nintendo isn't juggling two balls, it's sucking on one big dick. the DS dick, and has left us Wii owners in the dust. A zelda game (which I have big worries for) and a SIDE SCROLLING Kirby game is not pulling focus back to your BIG-NAME HOME CONSOLE which is supposed to be your flagship console.

Relying on these almost on-existent 3rd party titles for the Wii is going to sink your home-console's hardcore gaming audience (If any remains at this point). I'm not asking for CoD's or even Conduits! Stuff like Resi4 (which is 3rd party), LoZ (which I'm still afraid you're about to kill) stuff you're known for being good at! Adventure titles! Selling Rareware was the biggest mistake you could have ever done and now you're suffering for it.

You suckered me in with Brawl, but I should have known you'd leave us behind when you gave us a 3 month delay for the bloody thing!

Should have gotten an X-Box

Last year, Nintendo released a new Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong, and Kirby for the Wii. The Mario and Donkey Kong games were praised as some of the best platformers in years, the Kirby game praised for its inventive art style, and the Metroid....has its fans. They are certainly not abandoning their fans. And, obviously, they're going to put some effort into their new handheld. Have some patience...they're not done with the Wii yet.

Also, judging by reactions to recent Rare games, it may not have been the huge mistake people make it out to be.

In defense of Rare, they hold the rights to King K. Rool (remember him?) probably the best (and only at the time) D.K Villain. Rare tried to re-release Conker's and tried a perfect Dark Sequel and now a Bnajo-Kazooi sequel (again). Conker's was great so was the Banjo series (Perfect Dark overall seems full of cliches and the story is a bit incomprehensible, but it's not horrid). Rare's wacky fun humour goes hand in hand with Nintendo's colourful outlook. This is one of the reasons they did so well together.

I actually did like other M. The writing was crap, but that's Nintendo's own fault (They wrote it) gameplay was flawless and it was the new 3-D take on the metroid series we were all waiting for (but I'm also one of those people who thought the Matrix Revolutions had good philosophical points).

To be completely honest, I didn't play DK or Epic Yarn, (call me hypocrite if you must) but it feels like they're regressing in style here. The whole point of a home console is so we DON'T regress to the 2-D side scrollers (unless it fits into gameplay like Paper Mario) and while they may be fine as platformers, it's still feels like a step backwards.

Now Mario Brother's Wii is the biggest lie of them all. Look closely at it, then pick up your DS and look at "New Super Mario Brothers" The 3-D models are identical! Nintendo put almost NO effort into this game. They took what worked on the DS LITERALLY ported it to the Wii and made it 4 player.

This being another reason why I like Other M the best. It was the most innovative and the best display of "New" Nintendo could have ever done. And ALL that was done by the 3rd party license, Team Ninja.

3 of the 4 games you mentioned were side scrollers, two of which were 3rd party titles (HAL Labs is 3rd party as of 2008).

I also want to point this out. That's 4 games compared to.... How many came out for PS3/360? (6 games if you count Red Steel 2, No More Heroes 2 and Mario Galaxy 2, of which the latter two were the only ones that actually sold)

I want to make it clear right now. I LOVE Nintendo and still do. I just don't think they know how to handle the section of their property geared towards the older-Wii audience anymore.

 

[funguy2121]

It wouldn't be the first time they outright lied to us. Of course they're working on the Wii's successor, and of course they have a few surprises up their sleeves. Those will of course include Pikmin 3, and hopefully a new F-Zero or Starfox Wii release or, heaven forbid, an original concept

 

[Sean Strife]

but that's literally about the ONLY game franchise that they haven't released a game for on the Wii.

F-Zero and Starfox would like to have a word with you.

Anyone spot the similarities between this and the decline in first party support for the DS around the time of the Wii's launch?

Touche on F-Zero and Starfox... as long as the Starfox game is more like Starfox 64.

It wouldn't be the first time they outright lied to us. Of course they're working on the Wii's successor, and of course they have a few surprises up their sleeves. Those will of course include Pikmin 3, and hopefully a new F-Zero or Starfox Wii release or, heaven forbid, an original concept

A new IP would be nice... alas, I don't think we're gonna get that.

 

[mjc0961]

Unfortunately, I've given up on Earthbound coming back to the States, but that's literally about the ONLY game franchise that they haven't released a game for on the Wii. Maybe we'll finally get Super Mario Space-Time Continuum?

That is completely inaccurate. They also haven't released games for the following franchises:
Zelda (GameCube ports don't count; and Skyward Sword isn't out yet, so this stays on the list until it does)
Star Fox
Pikmin (because once again, GameCube ports don't count)
F-Zero

And more if you count other franchises that nobody really expect them to put on Wii anyway, such as Golden Sun, or maybe even Kid Icarus (now that they revived it for 3DS).

But clearly, to say that Earthbound is literally the only franchise they haven't put on Wii is extremely inaccurate.

 

[RA92]

My big question is: What could Nintendo have left to share?

*crosses fingers* PLEASE LET IT BE EARTHBOUND.... PLEASE LET IT BE EARTHBOUND....

Yeah, and when they do come up with the next Earthbound title, they're gonna call it Mother 4 and never translate it.

Fuckers.

 

[starwarsgeek]

In defense of Rare, they hold the rights to King K. Rool (remember him?) probably the best (and only at the time) D.K Villain. Rare tried to re-release Conker's and tried a perfect Dark Sequel and now a Bnajo-Kazooi sequel (again). Conker's was great so was the Banjo series (Perfect Dark overall seems full of cliches and the story is a bit incomprehensible, but it's not horrid). Rare's wacky fun humour goes hand in hand with Nintendo's colourful outlook. This is one of the reasons they did so well together.

Really? Had no idea they actually held the K.Rool rights. Probably for the best...the series needed more villains anyway.

I actually did like other M. The writing was crap, but that's Nintendo's own fault (They wrote it) gameplay was flawless and it was the new 3-D take on the metroid series we were all waiting for (but I'm also one of those people who thought the Matrix Revolutions had good philosophical points).

Whenever I get around to playing it, I'll probably have a similar opinion of the game. I have no problem with delving into psychological trauma after all Samus has been through. However, if the naration really does go on as long as people say...it will be annoying.

To be completely honest, I didn't play DK or Epic Yarn, (call me hypocrite if you must) but it feels like they're regressing in style here. The whole point of a home console is so we DON'T regress to the 2-D side scrollers (unless it fits into gameplay like Paper Mario) and while they may be fine as platformers, it's still feels like a step backwards.

I'll disagree with this one. It's not regression; it's a different style, and it brings more variety to the market.

Now Mario Brother's Wii is the biggest lie of them all. Look closely at it, then pick up your DS and look at "New Super Mario Brothers" The 3-D models are identical! Nintendo put almost NO effort into this game. They took what worked on the DS LITERALLY ported it to the Wii and made it 4 player.

I was actually refering to Mario Galaxy 2 in my post. However, I have no problem with models being re-used. New levels, new power ups, new bosses. It's a different game, and re-using the models does not change this.

This being another reason why I like Other M the best. It was the most innovative and the best display of "New" Nintendo could have ever done. And ALL that was done by the 3rd party license, Team Ninja.

3 of the 4 games you mentioned were side scrollers, two of which were 3rd party titles (HAL Labs is 3rd party as of 2008).

As I mentioned earlier, I don't consider sidescroller to be a flaw, and it was only 2 out of the 4 (NSMBW was released late '09, if I'm not mistaken)

Thanks for sharing that about Hal Labs. I was trying to figure out if they were first or third party...that explains why the information I found as contradictory. Still, Nintendo had some connection to both third parties...the writting for Other M, and they were able to get Hal to turn "Fluff's Yarn" into "Kirby's Yarn" (probably for the best...many would have ignored it without Kirby drawing our attention. Maybe Fluff can get his own spin off series now?) So it was more than just saying "Here's our intellectual property...do somethign with it."

I also want to point this out. That's 4 games compared to.... How many came out for PS3/360? (6 games if you count Red Steel 2, No More Heroes 2 and Mario Galaxy 2, of which the latter two were the only ones that actually sold)

Four Nintendo games...not four games. There was also NBA Jam, Golden Eye, Epic Mickey, Sonic Colors, Monster Hunter Tri, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, and no doubt many others that I missed. The only 360 exclusive I got last year was Halo: Reach (I'm sure there were some other great exclusives. I just didn't take note of them).

I want to make it clear right now. I LOVE Nintendo and still do. I just don't think they know how to handle the section of their property geared towards the older-Wii audience anymore.

Problem with that is that many of their most devoted fans are in their 20s or 30s, and a lot of middle aged and older adults became fans through Wii Sports. They've got pretty much every age group covered...the people they don't have are the ones who demand a huge story...some people can enjoy a game for the game's sake alone.

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Doesn't the Wii have it's own...you know... department?
I don't even know, game makers will say anything I guess. 3DS might be a successful launch, but like many, I'm waiting until the hacks are available. I don't pirate, I refuse to be watched.

 

[VGC USpartan VS]

I'd like to have a reason to play with my Wii again - and would like to be reminded why I loved my N64 for all those years.

The only reason I believe that could fit that description is Super Smash Bros. 4

 

[BehattedWanderer]

That seems fair, actually. The Wii had quite a few AAA titles pop up in 2010, with the notable exception of what, two main IPs? And a new Zelda was shown, and that's coming, alongside another new Kirby, and Kid Icarus at some point. Nintendo is pushing a pretty big bill with the 3DS, and they're gonna need to get the media focus there for a short time. The 3DS is promising a new Mario, a new Paper Mario, a revamped not-that-old Zelda, and Starfox finally returning to his Arwing as a railshooting reprint with better ink--and that's not even the slew of third party support that its rolling out. They are effectively bringing out a secondary console, with that lineup, so to put a bit of focus off of the older, established unit is perfectly fair, all things considered.

Unfortunately, I've given up on Earthbound coming back to the States, but that's literally about the ONLY game franchise that they haven't released a game for on the Wii. Maybe we'll finally get Super Mario Space-Time Continuum?

Earthbound is a game, not a franchise. Mother is the name you're looking for. And there also haven't been any F-Zero titles, any Pikmin titles, or any Starfox titles. For that matter, if we're discussing well known but not often seen Nintendo characters, who know who hasn't shown up in years, without being really missed? The Ice Climbers. Yeah. They're an IP, too, guys.

 

[starwarsgeek]

The Ice Climbers. Yeah. They're an IP, too, guys.

That's something I've been hoping for. Nintendo is loving their multiplayer 2D platformers right now, and a new Ice Climber seems like the perfect chance to make one. It's not like Smash Bros. hasn't done wonders for its charcters before.

 

[Wicky_42]

I'd like to have a reason to play with my Wii again - and would like to be reminded why I loved my N64 for all those years.

The only reason I believe that could fit that description is Super Smash Bros. 4

Oh, Smash Bros 4 + a new F-Zero would be a start :] Smash Bros 3 was pretty sweet - perhaps one of the things that turns me off so much about Nintendo games is kinda the lack of development in gameplay mechanics. There's only little refinements between Bros 1 and 3, and that's kinda a disappointment. Kinda the same with Zelda games, but hey - Nintendo rolls with what it knows. Well, apart from when it has a stab at revolutionising the industry... >.>

 

[BehattedWanderer]

The Ice Climbers. Yeah. They're an IP, too, guys.

That's something I've been hoping for. Nintendo is loving their multiplayer 2D platformers right now, and a new Ice Climber seems like the perfect chance to make one. It's not like Smash Bros. hasn't done wonders for its charcters before.

...who are you thinking of, out of curiosity? Marth/Ike/Roy? Fire Emblem still doesn't have a large following outside of Japan.

 

[starwarsgeek]

The Ice Climbers. Yeah. They're an IP, too, guys.

That's something I've been hoping for. Nintendo is loving their multiplayer 2D platformers right now, and a new Ice Climber seems like the perfect chance to make one. It's not like Smash Bros. hasn't done wonders for its charcters before.

...who are you thinking of, out of curiosity? Marth/Ike/Roy? Fire Emblem still doesn't have a large following outside of Japan.

Mostly Pit. But, hey, at least Fire Emblem's doing well enough to keep exporting the games.

 

[Okysho]

SNIP

Yeah that's why K. Rool kinda disappeared from existence...

Other M.: The Narration is exactly as you've heard, and the psychological trauma is over the top and timed wrong (series wise). This would make sense if it were Zero Mission, reliving it for the first time, but not after Samus has fought Ridley time after time after time. Again, Nintendo wrote this not team ninja.

As for the side scrolling: Ok you've got a point there, but it feels like there could still have been more done with it. Imagine if DK Returns was in 3-D like DK64? would that not open up the options to so much more? Same with Kirby, while it made more sense design wise since it is a game about yarn, a 3-D Kirby game in general would be phenomenal! This is one of the reasons Crystal Shards turned me off (after the first playthrough, not 100%)

Thanks for the reminder about New Super Mario bros. Wii though, I'd forgotten that was actually a Christmas release... felt like 2010. I still stand by the fact that we didn't get much love in terms of "good" Wii games, however it's clearly established that "good" is a point of view in this discussion.

As a "devoted fan" myself (I bought Fire Emblem for god's sake!) I still feel like there's a huge gap missing between Nintendo's devoted fans and it's developers.

For the record I'm 19, and while you've made some good points, I still think there's something missing.

 

[Raziel_Likes_Souls]

I guess Reggie's body just isn't ready to do anything with the Wii.