Nintendo labo discution

[Lufia Erim]

Yeah not interested. It's a crazy stupid idea. And if you need to spend 70$ in cardbord to spend quality time with you're kids, you have failed as a parent.

This review is pretty stupid actually. i dont think you can review this product as you would do for another game. it's a flop because it fail to beat far cry 5 ? well duh... It's something that they hope it will catch on the long run, but nobody expected high sales at launch. it's more a christmas thing.

70$ for a kid toy, is not that high. i've seen a pinball machine in cardboard for 50$, a pretty small lego set is 30$. going to see one movie at a movie theatre with two kids and two adult can go to 50$ easily. So the dollar per hour of entertainement is not that high.

And durability, well cardboard have the advantage to be very easily repairable. So if it's break, replace the broken part with a home made one, use tape and glue to repair it. And i have reckless kids, they broke things, but they havent broke this to the point of non repairability. but a plastic toy, can often break easily and cannot be repair.


As for you comments, well, yeah if it's the only way you get quality time with your kids, i guess you have a problem, but as one activity out of many that give you quality time with your kids, i dont see why it should be bad. Granted it's not for everybody, but it's a neat idea for the market they try to reach with it

That wasn't a review. Like at all. They stated facts. I'm all for cherry picking, but it's not the season.

 

[Drathnoxis]

She didn't so much pay for cardboard, but for quality time.

Quality time's free though, you don't have to pay premium prices to have fun with kids. Just go to the park. Then again we are living in a materialistic world these days, you're expected to buy junk for your kids.

 

[Marik2]

Lol

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

OK, so it's $80 of cardboard.

 

[Yoshi178]

OK, so it's $80 of cardboard.

you literally said this to Ezekiel several days ago in the god of war thread:

You people implied my opinion is invalid because I haven't played it.

More like outright told you.

pretty hypocritical of you now claiming that Labo is nothing more than "$80 cardboard" when you haven't even played with Labo.

so until you do play with Labo, seems like your opinion is just as invalid as you said Ezekiels opinion about your precious God of War game was.

 

[Yoshi178]

It's a crazy stupid idea.

it ain't a stupid idea if Nintendo is able to make money off of it.

Just because an idea was successful doesn't mean it wasn't stupid. I could be successful at taking a dump in my hand and spreading it all over the bathroom walls, but doing so would still be a stupid idea.

why would that be a stupid idea? you're saying that as if that's an objective fact when it's not.

if you were already wealthy and had another fantastic job, then yeah you might think doing something like that is a stupid idea.

but what if you were extremely poor and lived in a 3rd world country where it's basically impossible to find work and gain a solid income? if you were able to get paid and make a living off of doing that, you might not consider doing that as such a stupid idea

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

?70 for some cardboard tat

$70 cardboard die-cut

Sure it's essentially $70 for cardboard

I see this a lot, and I wonder if the software (games, the piano studio, etc) is ever considered in the price tag? Because if I recall correctly Nintendo is selling replacement parts and boards for $2-12 depending on the part as well, so surely it's closer to $25 or so for the kit, and the rest covers the software for everything else? I dunno, just a thought.

So, can i buy just the software and instructions, though? And craft those controlers by myself of a spare cardboard i find? Cause it seems like DIY approach to it is one of the selling points. And those cutouts you get isn't some Nintendo super cardboard, right? Just the regular packaging stuff?

 

[Lufia Erim]

?70 for some cardboard tat

$70 cardboard die-cut

Sure it's essentially $70 for cardboard

I see this a lot, and I wonder if the software (games, the piano studio, etc) is ever considered in the price tag? Because if I recall correctly Nintendo is selling replacement parts and boards for $2-12 depending on the part as well, so surely it's closer to $25 or so for the kit, and the rest covers the software for everything else? I dunno, just a thought.

So, can i buy just the software and instructions, though? And craft those controlers by myself of a spare cardboard i find? Cause it seems like DIY approach to it is one of the selling points. And those cutouts you get isn't some Nintendo super cardboard, right? Just the regular packaging stuff?

That's actually a good question. But wouldn't ninendo lose money that way? Although now i wonder how much money do these things take to make?

 

[Casual Shinji]

OK, so it's $80 of cardboard.

you literally said this to Ezekiel several days ago in the god of war thread:

You people implied my opinion is invalid because I haven't played it.

More like outright told you.

pretty hypocritical of you now claiming that Labo is nothing more than "$80 cardboard" when you haven't even played with Labo.

Well, he's not making any claims about how the game plays, is he? It's not really the same thing. It's about the price tag being a bit steep for cardboard toys. And yes, I know it's more than just cardboard you're paying for, but the fact that it's cardboard is pretty much front and centre in the marketing.

OT: It's a nifty merge of games and toys, but I'm really not into toys anymore, so this is about as appealing to me as Hotwheels tracks.

 

[Yoshi178]

OK, so it's $80 of cardboard.

you literally said this to Ezekiel several days ago in the god of war thread:

You people implied my opinion is invalid because I haven't played it.

More like outright told you.

pretty hypocritical of you now claiming that Labo is nothing more than "$80 cardboard" when you haven't even played with Labo.

Well, he's not making any claims about how the game plays, is he? It's not really the same thing. It's about the price tag being a bit steep for cardboard toys. And yes, I know it's more than just cardboard you're paying for

Johnny's opinion is that it is just expensive cardboard that Nintendo's making you pay for though which just isn't true.

the Nintendo Switch software cartridge is where the majority of those 2 Labo price tags come from. maybe if Johnny actually did some research and played with one of the Labo kits himself he would know that it's more than just the cardboard which the consumer is paying for and ultimately using.

 

[cathou]

?70 for some cardboard tat

$70 cardboard die-cut

Sure it's essentially $70 for cardboard

I see this a lot, and I wonder if the software (games, the piano studio, etc) is ever considered in the price tag? Because if I recall correctly Nintendo is selling replacement parts and boards for $2-12 depending on the part as well, so surely it's closer to $25 or so for the kit, and the rest covers the software for everything else? I dunno, just a thought.

So, can i buy just the software and instructions, though? And craft those controlers by myself of a spare cardboard i find? Cause it seems like DIY approach to it is one of the selling points. And those cutouts you get isn't some Nintendo super cardboard, right? Just the regular packaging stuff?

right now, it's impossible to just buy the software (the instructions are in the software). you have to buy the whole kit. however the cardboard doesnt seems to be that special, it's a little bit thinner than let say amazon shipping cardboard, but i guess it's pretty simple to find. Even nintendo say that you can use the empty sheet once you're done with it, and use it to cut regular cardboard to make spare parts. I will probably try that soon enough because my older daughter refuse to let her sister play with her now fully customised piano, so i will probably try to make another one with regular cardboard.

plus the whole labo garage thing come with no cardboard, so you have to use regular cardboard for that...

 

[Casual Shinji]

Johnny's opinion is that it is just expensive cardboard that Nintendo's making you pay for though which just isn't true.

the Nintendo Switch software cartridge is where the majority of those 2 Labo price tags come from. maybe if Johnny actually did some research and played with one of the Labo kits himself he would know that it's more than just the cardboard which the consumer is paying for and ultimately using.

Yeah, I mentioned that, but the main appeal of the game as it is advertized is 'Look, you can craft toys out of carboard to use in conjunction with your Switch. 70 dollars!' I doubt the fans that are buying this are doing so for the cardridge with the minigames. They're doing it for the whole cardboard toy crafting angle.

And from that perspective it isn't that strange that people might be a bit hesitant and critical at dropping 70 bucks on that.

 

[Elijin]

This topic, like most about the labo, is pretty filled with 20-40 year olds declaring that its not aimed at their demographic so its stupid.

It's a neat idea. About the cost of a video game, with some hands on aspect for the younger ones to get right into (with help, as needed).

The 'Oh but its sooo much for nothing/cardboard' crowd should A- take a reflective look at some of the pointless shit they buy, and how it seems like a total waste of money to kids, and B- walk down a toy aisle and look at the price tags on stuff some time.

 

[Yoshi178]

Johnny's opinion is that it is just expensive cardboard that Nintendo's making you pay for though which just isn't true.

the Nintendo Switch software cartridge is where the majority of those 2 Labo price tags come from. maybe if Johnny actually did some research and played with one of the Labo kits himself he would know that it's more than just the cardboard which the consumer is paying for and ultimately using.

Yeah, I mentioned that, but the main appeal of the game as it is advertized is 'Look, you can craft toys out of carboard to use in conjunction with your Switch. 70 dollars!' I doubt the fans that are buying this are doing so for the cardridge with the minigames. They're doing it for the whole cardboard toy crafting angle.

And from that perspective it isn't that strange that people might be a bit hesitant and critical at dropping 70 bucks on that.

it was advertised that you make toys out of cardboard and then play videogames with those cardboard toys you've made. not just making the cardboard toys.

and you can't really claim to know why each person would be buying it. people have different reasons for buying the same products all time.
take Amiibo for example. sure those Amiibo figures were advertised as figures you scan to unlock content in your Nintendo games, but not everyone buys them for that purpose. i've barely ever used the actual NFC feature on my Amiibos personally.
i bought my amiibo's for the same reason people buy figurine's of movie/video game/comic/anime characters all the time which don't have NFC chips in them, to decorate my room and videogaming collection with.

so yeah, like i said not everyone will buy labo for the same reason as every other person.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Johnny's opinion is that it is just expensive cardboard that Nintendo's making you pay for though which just isn't true.

the Nintendo Switch software cartridge is where the majority of those 2 Labo price tags come from. maybe if Johnny actually did some research and played with one of the Labo kits himself he would know that it's more than just the cardboard which the consumer is paying for and ultimately using.

Yeah, I mentioned that, but the main appeal of the game as it is advertized is 'Look, you can craft toys out of carboard to use in conjunction with your Switch. 70 dollars!' I doubt the fans that are buying this are doing so for the cardridge with the minigames. They're doing it for the whole cardboard toy crafting angle.

And from that perspective it isn't that strange that people might be a bit hesitant and critical at dropping 70 bucks on that.

Eh, he's just doing this because some guy got banned "because of me" (ie. insulted me), so now, much like Steven Seagal in 1991, he's Out for Justice. I haven't replied to him in like a year but he's welcome to keep trying (so is Seagal). Everybody needs a hobby. At least his doesn't cost 80 dollars.

Now about the OP: I don't understand all the mean replies. Your parents never bought you an expensive toy? You never wished they did? If you're old enough to sign up for an Escapist account you're probably too old for the Labo but why mock a parent for buying it to their kid?

 

[Lufia Erim]

This topic, like most about the labo, is pretty filled with 20-40 year olds declaring that its not aimed at their demographic so its stupid.

It's a neat idea. About the cost of a video game, with some hands on aspect for the younger ones to get right into (with help, as needed).

The 'Oh but its sooo much for nothing/cardboard' crowd should A- take a reflective look at some of the pointless shit they buy, and how it seems like a total waste of money to kids, and B- walk down a toy aisle and look at the price tags on stuff some time.

The problem isn't that it's not for our demographic. It'a that it's made for children and out of cardboard! Children are far from the most delicate of creatures. And guess what. 7 year olds aren't the ones dropping 70$ on this thing, their parents ( or adult relatives) are!

If i think that paying 70$ for cardboard is a crazy idea, i'm sure as hell not buying one for little Suzy. If i'm paying that much money on something, it wont be made out of cardboard, i guarantee you that.

 

[Elijin]

This topic, like most about the labo, is pretty filled with 20-40 year olds declaring that its not aimed at their demographic so its stupid.

It's a neat idea. About the cost of a video game, with some hands on aspect for the younger ones to get right into (with help, as needed).

The 'Oh but its sooo much for nothing/cardboard' crowd should A- take a reflective look at some of the pointless shit they buy, and how it seems like a total waste of money to kids, and B- walk down a toy aisle and look at the price tags on stuff some time.

The problem isn't that it's not for our demographic. It'a that it's made for children and out of cardboard! Children are far from the most delicate of creatures. And guess what. 7 year olds aren't the ones dropping 70$ on this thing, their parents ( or adult relatives) are!

If i think that paying 70$ for cardboard is a crazy idea, i'm sure as hell not buying one for little Suzy. If i'm paying that much money on something, it wont be made out of cardboard, i guarantee you that.

You have a really good point there, obviously everyone is being conned into buying 70 buck cardboard packs and...oh wait. We've already had an owner confirm Nintendo provides the patterns with the product and encourages you to make replacement parts out of any ol' cardboard.

Keep trying to be mad at stuff that's not for you.

 

[laggyteabag]

I love it, but im also not interested.

You cannot deny that the Labo is really interesting as a concept, and that is just what it is to me: a proof of concept.

The problem is, as a product, all I see is a bunch of 1-2-Switch/Wii Play style mini games, and as a result, I can only see the effective playtime of the labo as... short.

I'd love to see how the concept is taken forward, though, and hopefully Nintendo ships something Labo-y with their future titles.

 

[cathou]

This topic, like most about the labo, is pretty filled with 20-40 year olds declaring that its not aimed at their demographic so its stupid.

It's a neat idea. About the cost of a video game, with some hands on aspect for the younger ones to get right into (with help, as needed).

The 'Oh but its sooo much for nothing/cardboard' crowd should A- take a reflective look at some of the pointless shit they buy, and how it seems like a total waste of money to kids, and B- walk down a toy aisle and look at the price tags on stuff some time.

The problem isn't that it's not for our demographic. It'a that it's made for children and out of cardboard! Children are far from the most delicate of creatures. And guess what. 7 year olds aren't the ones dropping 70$ on this thing, their parents ( or adult relatives) are!

If i think that paying 70$ for cardboard is a crazy idea, i'm sure as hell not buying one for little Suzy. If i'm paying that much money on something, it wont be made out of cardboard, i guarantee you that.

Geez, what's with this odd thinking that everything a kids touch, it will ruin it. i mean, if your kids take 3 hours of it's time to build something, and broke it to the point of being non repairable (i dont know, throw it on the floor and stomp on it for several minutes, then burn it ???) maybe your kids have some issues... i say it again, it's cardboard. it can be copy to other cardboard, you can use tape to repair it, you can use glue to repair it, and folded cardboard is really more tough than you might think...

and again, you have the software it's not just cardboard. yeah it's not a 20 hours game, but it's more fun than 1-2 switch...

 

[Yoshi178]

I haven't replied to him in like a year

that's a lie

you make snarky replies towards me at every possible opportunity you get if you feel i've made dumb comments. like when you had a go at me because i called Xenoblade 2 my personal GOTY before the game was released just because i "hadn't played it yet"