Nintendo President: Mario Games Aren't Too Frequent

[mattttherman3]

There is a reason I did not buy a wii and won't get a wiiu, these guys are so out of touch over there, it's quite saddening. It took them over 20 years to realease a new kid icarus game for gods sakes, wtf happened to Star Fox?! Stop re releasing the 64 version and come out with something that doesn't suck like Assault did!!!!!!!

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Mario games aren't too frequent are they?

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario>Riiiiight...

I suddenly find myself in even more agreement with Jim Sterling's last vid.

Mario Teaches Typing 2 LOL

Hey I don't make the lists, I just mock them. It's quite funny to see what Nintendo have stuck his name to over the years for the sake of franchise sales.

 

[medv4380]

It's not really as bad as some people think currently. The last couple of years they've been doing about 4 Mario games a year. Between 2005 - 2007 they were above 8 with 2005 being at 11. If you think about it that was because that was the N64 and GC period where there weren't many games to get for those systems. So Nintendo had no choice but to flood with their 1st party content. The previous spike was between 93 - 95 where it averaged 6 games. There will always be peaks and valleys for Mascot games, and right now we are in a valley. You really only have too many when the games start stealing sales from each other. You really want to avoid competing with yourself, but you do want a new Mascot game every now and then so that New Console buyers can buy the latest Mascot game, and not feel like they've purchased a game everyone has already played. I'd rather they do this kind of thing with Mario anyways. Zelda, and Metroid aren't suited for 2 games a year, but Mario can because of the simplicity of play.

I'm not really concerned about what Nintendo will do with DLC. I'm more concerned about what others will do, and have been doing with DLC.

 

[SnakeoilSage]

At least put Mario on the shelf for a year or two and create something new, Nintendo.

 

[WaysideMaze]

I couldn't agree more, because this list [http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Mario_games] just isn't long enough dammit.

There are 156 Games on that list that in some way include mario himself or is otherwise part of the mario franchise.

That is just ridiculous.

It really is. Even when you consider the fact that he isn't the main character in all of these games, it's still such a rediculously large list, the fact that nintendo has gotten away with it for so long baffles me. Still, as long as people keep buying them, why would they consider stopping?

It may be a pipe dream for Ninetendo, but it would leave us in the U-bend.

Please, stop that.

Sorry 4 being a Goomba, but I'm not all that familiar with Mario games. The plumbing angle was the first that came to mind.

Never stop the puns. Never!!

 

[Meight08]

You know Nintendo, I'm only speaking for myself, but I wouldn't mind these frequent (yes Mario games are frequent, don't deny it) Mario games and the reboots of old milked IPs like Zelda, if you guys actually released something...oh I don't know...SOMETHING ELSE!? Anything!? You guys put so much effort into rehashing these old IPs yet make none to put that same effort into something new.

Seriously, I bet Nintendo could make the most awesome new IPs because they really do have great imaginations, but their stuck in 1990.

Edit:

At least put Mario on the shelf for a year or two and create something new, Nintendo.

Stop asking for new ip's untill people start buying them!
Ever heard of supply and demand? Right now there is no demand for new ip so there is no supply.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Mario games aren't too frequent are they?

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario>Riiiiight...

I suddenly find myself in even more agreement with Jim Sterling's last vid.

New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii 2009 Wii Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)

Looks like Mario Bros games are on a three year cycle.

 

[The Great JT]

If they're going to do a DLC method, one of them needs to be a Level Editor. Can you imagine how much money that would make?

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Mario games aren't too frequent are they?

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario>Riiiiight...

I suddenly find myself in even more agreement with Jim Sterling's last vid.

New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii 2009 Wii Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)

Looks like Mario Bros games are on a three year cycle.

Perhaps single titles in the franchise are released less frequently, but that doesn't mean that the franchise as a whole isn't milked for every penny. The two studios responsible for CoD only release every two years, yet people don't stop ragging on Activision for releasing one CoD game a year. SMB may release every three years, yet that hasn't stopped Nintendo slapping Mario's name on six titles this year alone - and it's still August.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

I know this may seem strange to you guys, but I can see his point. If you look at the different spin-offs as seperate franchises, which they by all means should be, than the only one that got a bit excessive was Mario Party. Yet there is still a major issue here, the New franchise is already feeling samey despite the fact that there is only one per console. It should also be noted that the New franchise focusing solely on being a rehash of the old games makes it much harder for the series to feel unique. Nintendo needs to do something to solve this rather than try to deal with arguments that wouldn't come up if they actually felt like different games.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

Perhaps single titles in the franchise are released less frequently, but that doesn't mean that the franchise as a whole isn't milked for every penny. The two studios responsible for CoD only release every two years, yet people don't stop ragging on Activision for releasing one CoD game a year. SMB may release every three years, yet that hasn't stopped Nintendo slapping Mario's name on six titles this year alone - and it's still August.

That isn't what Iwata is talking about even if the headline is misleading. Trickily phrased in order to make people angry like all blog headlines have to be if they want people to click on them and comment.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Mario games aren't too frequent are they?

<a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario>Riiiiight...

I suddenly find myself in even more agreement with Jim Sterling's last vid.

New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii 2009 Wii Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)

Looks like Mario Bros games are on a three year cycle.

Perhaps single titles in the franchise are released less frequently, but that doesn't mean that the franchise as a whole isn't milked for every penny. The two studios responsible for CoD only release every two years, yet people don't stop ragging on Activision for releasing one CoD game a year. SMB may release every three years, yet that hasn't stopped Nintendo slapping Mario's name on six titles this year alone - and it's still August.

Those two seperate cycles are in identical genres featuring nearly identical gameplay and a two year cycle is still a bit rushed. Do not try and equate the two release cycles of CoD games to how Mario games have been made in just about every genre in existence.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Perhaps single titles in the franchise are released less frequently, but that doesn't mean that the franchise as a whole isn't milked for every penny. The two studios responsible for CoD only release every two years, yet people don't stop ragging on Activision for releasing one CoD game a year. SMB may release every three years, yet that hasn't stopped Nintendo slapping Mario's name on six titles this year alone - and it's still August.

That isn't what Iwata is talking about even if the headline is misleading. Trickily phrased in order to make people angry like all blog headlines have to be if they want people to click on them and comment.

It's kinda difficult for non Nintendo fans to separate out which games are produced by which devs though. Iwata and his team may indeed produce to a measured release period, but to the layman the market is constantly being flooded by the latest Mario title.

Those two seperate cycles are in identical genres featuring nearly identical gameplay and a two year cycle is still a bit rushed. Do not try and equate the two release cycles of CoD games to how Mario games have been made in just about every genre in existence.

I'm not trying to compare the single CoD shooter series with the entire Mario franchise, merely individual series within it. CoD focuses purely on military FPS games whereas the Mario franchise straddles platformers, racers, puzzlers, and so on and so on. I'm not trying to compare those aspects of the games. What I am saying is that there is as much (or as little) innovation between the first and newest CoD games as there is between, say, the first and newest Mario Kart games (which - for the record - I think is quite a bloody bit).

Mario clearly has his fingers in more pies than any other franchise going, and I wasn't trying to argue that point. What I was meaning is that when you look inside the overall franchise and seize on an individual series within that overarching blanket brand, the newer games can often come across as simply updated versions of the last game.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I'm more concerned by the fact that this seems to be a new trend.

Consumer Base: "We really like That Game Series (TM)!"
Publisher: "Oh, snap! We got ourselves a cash cow! Let's milk that fucker down! ONE INSTALMENT PER YEAR, GOGOGO!"
Consumer Base: "Well - we don't like it *that* much..."
Publisher: "FUCK ALL O' Y'ALL, GIVE US YOUR MONIES NAO! MORE OF THE SAME SHIT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WOOHOO!"

I figure what's going to help the industry is a second crash. Maybe if EA and Nintendo go burning down in flames and the hobby becomes a bit of a distant memory for some, then maybe we'll be more inclined to explore new avenues for game development, and new franchises. As is, Nintendo's just resting on the laurels of its video game icons because, well, they're video game icons.

"Mario is classic, ergo we can pump shit out like nobody's business as long as it has his face on the cover" isn't what I'd consider a decent defence.

 

[Shadowstar38]

The last time they did anything new with Mario was Galaxy. After that its been, a sequal to galaxy, and throwbacks to the sidescrollers with a new coat of paint. It gets tiring after awhile.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Perhaps single titles in the franchise are released less frequently, but that doesn't mean that the franchise as a whole isn't milked for every penny. The two studios responsible for CoD only release every two years, yet people don't stop ragging on Activision for releasing one CoD game a year. SMB may release every three years, yet that hasn't stopped Nintendo slapping Mario's name on six titles this year alone - and it's still August.

That isn't what Iwata is talking about even if the headline is misleading. Trickily phrased in order to make people angry like all blog headlines have to be if they want people to click on them and comment.

It's kinda difficult for non Nintendo fans to separate out which games are produced by which devs though. Iwata and his team may indeed produce to a measured release period, but to the layman the market is constantly being flooded by the latest Mario title.

Those two seperate cycles are in identical genres featuring nearly identical gameplay and a two year cycle is still a bit rushed. Do not try and equate the two release cycles of CoD games to how Mario games have been made in just about every genre in existence.

I'm not trying to compare the single CoD shooter series with the entire Mario franchise, merely individual series within it. CoD focuses purely on military FPS games whereas the Mario franchise straddles platformers, racers, puzzlers, and so on and so on. I'm not trying to compare those aspects of the games. What I am saying is that there is as much (or as little) innovation between the first and newest CoD games as there is between, say, the first and newest Mario Kart games (which - for the record - I think is quite a bloody bit).

Mario clearly has his fingers in more pies than any other franchise going, and I wasn't trying to argue that point. What I was meaning is that when you look inside the overall franchise and seize on an individual series within that overarching blanket brand, the newer games can often come across as simply updated versions of the last game.

Then you argue rather strangely, because you never mentioned innovation once in the post I quoted. However, I do not think the New series is innovating at all, so I will stop arguing with you unless you fuck up and forget what you were trying to say again.

 

[More Fun To Compute]

It's kinda difficult for non Nintendo fans to separate out which games are produced by which devs though. Iwata and his team may indeed produce to a measured release period, but to the layman the market is constantly being flooded by the latest Mario title.

How hard can it be. Tens of millions of people turn out and buy the New Super Mario Bros games who don't buy any other Mario game except maybe Mario Kart. Are you saying that they are all super hardcore gamers who have a level of understanding of the games industry much higher than Jim Sterling and countless other headline writers and forum posters?