MrBaskerville said:
Things do look grim, but they still got Mario Kart 8 this month, upcoming Advance and DS on VC and Smash Brothers this Vinter + whatever they might release and announce during the summer. There's a ton of indie games on the way and i could imagine that Bayonetta 2 and X will be released before Smash Brothers. The machine itself is fine, it got more games than it's competetion, it just lacks customer support at the moment, but they can still turn it around, numbers vise they aren't that far behind.
I honestly don't think so. It was around this time last year people were saying that Pikmin 3 would move units. When that flopped it was the incredibly niche Wonderful 101 that was to move Wii-Units. When that flopped it was told that Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze would sell units. When that didn't happen the new Super Mario 3D World was supposedly for sure going to move units, as it was a Mario title. Nope. Game sold well, but it sold to people who already had a Wii U.
I can't see Mario Kart 8 moving units because well....it's the 8th installment. You know what you're going to get and fans of the series most likely already have a Wii U. Same goes for Smash Bros. Bayonetta 2 won't sell well because to be honest its pretty niche and Mature titles have a history of bombing hard on recent Nintendo consoles.
Nintendo needs to utilized some of its lesser used IPs and stop relying on major ones that have been cranking out games semi annually for the past 29 years. Most people who played Mario and Zelda when they were new (back in the mid 1980s) were around 10. Those people are now around 40. And the average age of gamers is 30. That's a large portion of the market that likely does not care that much about Mario anymore, and the constant re-re-re-re-release of older Nintendo titles is frankly strangling the Nostalgia out of the franchises. You can't not innovate on game design for 30 years and expect everyone to keep wanting the product.
Only so long you can say "If it ain't broken why fix it?" Before people say "It may not be broken but its not as good anymore" by voting with their wallets.
I honestly think its fans of Nintendo's N64 era who need to stop making excuses for lazy game development, both on the lack of innovation and the lack of games in general for the Wii U.
NuclearKangaroo said:
its true, the mainstream market is bigger than the hardcore market, but at the same time is much more inconsistent, while a hardcore gamer is very likely to buy your game as long as its good
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.
The casual market is the worst market in terms of long term. The sales of the Wii show that. The last 3 years of the Wii's lifespan showed very little sales while the PS3 and 360 sold steadily.
People who game as a hobby are more likely to buy games, and more of them. You're not going to hook a lot of casual gamers into 30+ year old franchises like Mario and Zelda. At least not without doing something major to the formula. There should have been an open world Pokemon game on a Nintendo console by now with online trading/battle capabilities. Not using the Wii-Mote in an innovative way with the Wii outside of Wii Sports also was such a boneheaded move.
it is stored. At least it won't get dusty but it is stored. And the games I really bought the Wii for about 3-4 titles thats it. 
