Nintendo Sued Over Wii Motion Controls

[Jumpingbean3]

I hope that nintendo loses so they will finally drop their rehashes and do original stuff.

You realize this would make more rehashes, right?

Why put out more money on an original idea that might not sell when you can put out a few Mario titles and make a few million in the process?

It's far easier and cheaper to do anything that has an established base than it is to go from scratch.

And even if they are rehashes they, more often than not, turn out to be at least decent. Yeah Nintendo use a lot of old ideas but that doesn't mean they're not willing to experiment with them whether it be a completely new idea or an old idea in a new context.

 

[Treblaine]

I'm going to go with President Ford on this one:

''We do NOT negotiate with Patent Trolls!''

 

[Treblaine]

I hope that nintendo loses so they will finally drop their rehashes and do original stuff.

Funny. Super Mario Galaxy may be "just another Mario game" yet it is more innovative and fresh than most of the new IPs that have come out this generation. Hell, Mario Galaxy 2 was welcome as NO OTHER GAME came close to what Nintendo did with Galaxy 1 we were glad to get some more.

Nintendo rehashes the premise and basic character pitch, but you can't say Ocarina of Time wasn't an innovation over the original Legend of Zelda. They innovate where it is important, and keep constant what is timeless.

And how "original" do you really want things?

Do you want id-software to stop making First-Person-Shooters?

Do you want bioware to stop making games like Mass Effect?

Do you want Valve to never make another Half Life game?

Are you angry we have a sequel to Batman: Arkham Asylum? That we are getting an Uncharted 3?

Some ideas and premises are too big for one game.

 

[Grabbin Keelz]

What the hell is a Wavit remote? Come to think of it, what the hell is ThinkOptics? Am I the only one that wasn't informed of their existence up until now?

 

[Jfswift]

There really has to be a clause in these ccpyright and patent laws that says if a claim isn't filed within 1-2 years of the offending product's launch, than it is automatically invalid.

I was just thinking that too. This seems a little fishy to me, waiting until the company is successful and then launching a legal battle.

 

[Torrasque]

Wow really? Um... Well ok... ?
This is probably the most random news I have heard in a while.
Next, Sony will probably sue Xbox for having a system that uses discs?
Or maybe Sony will sue Nintendo for making a handheld that uses cartridges. TOTALLY stealing Sony's idea.

Uh what?

Sony would sue Microsoft, not XBOX. Not that they would since the first CD based game console was made by NEC I think, PC Engine or maybe it was the CD-I made by Philips.

Sony sue Nintendo for making a cartridge based system? First of all, it's Nintendo that has always used cartridges up until the Gamecube, Sony has never used carts. Nintendo totally stole their own idea! Run for the hills.

I was joking and being sarcastic =P

 

[Starke]

Well, if they were just going after Nintendo, there might have been something to worry about, but considering they are going against tons of people who sell it and everyone who makes motion controls (thus, all the big 3), there probably won't be that much to worry about. On the other hand, this is the United States Legal System we're talking about...

Also:
>Nintendo is facing a stupid lawsuit
>first thing the escapist community says is "I HOPE THEY LOSE, 'CAUSE NINTENDO SUX!"
>Is not surprised in the least.

hey now our judges tend to think things through....but then its California.....wait no this is already over with this much money involved even California wouldnt fuck this up

Texas, not California.

And the suits against loads of people that are getting tossed lately tend to be file sharing cases where a company has identified five thousand John Does, and wants the court to allow them to find out who these people actually are.

This is completely different. Most likely they're being named as a negotiating tactic against Nintendo.

I'm going to go with President Ford on this one:

''We do NOT negotiate with Patent Trolls!''

Yeah, unfortunately even Harrison Ford knows this isn't patent trolling, and now he's messing with you.

 

[smudgey]

Just read a bit of the patent [link]http://www.google.com/patents?id=zyLWAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false[/link] DEFINITELY patent trolling. They just described my tv remote.

 

[Treblaine]

I'm going to go with President Ford on this one:

''We do NOT negotiate with Patent Trolls!''

Yeah, unfortunately even Harrison Ford knows this isn't patent trolling, and now he's messing with you.

>Vaguest patent idea possibly relating to Wii Motion Controls
>waits 5 years to file a claim
>sues everyone even remotely related to it
>not a troll

Get off my plane.

 

[Strazdas]

i hope they loose not because nintendo is evil or anyting, but because this may eventually mean the end of biggest motion control scam in history. and yes, i am biased.

 

[Starke]

I'm going to go with President Ford on this one:

''We do NOT negotiate with Patent Trolls!''

Yeah, unfortunately even Harrison Ford knows this isn't patent trolling, and now he's messing with you.

>Vaguest patent idea possibly relating to Wii Motion Controls
>waits 5 years to file a claim
>sues everyone even remotely related to it
>not a troll

Get off my plane.

>Actually involved in marketing a product.
>No transfer of patent ownership.
>Delay between becoming aware of the infringement, and a lawsuit.
>You know, things you don't see from patent trolls.
>Brings a banana to a gunfight... um... okay.

 

[Treblaine]

I'm going to go with President Ford on this one:

''We do NOT negotiate with Patent Trolls!''

Yeah, unfortunately even Harrison Ford knows this isn't patent trolling, and now he's messing with you.

>Vaguest patent idea possibly relating to Wii Motion Controls
>waits 5 years to file a claim
>sues everyone even remotely related to it
>not a troll

Get off my plane.

>Actually involved in marketing a product.
>No transfer of patent ownership.
>Delay between becoming aware of the infringement, and a lawsuit.
>You know, things you don't see from patent trolls.
>Brings a banana to a gunfight... um... okay.

A banana can be handy in a gunfight. Rich in potassium and a key source of fibre while still being delicious. Plus it's a great distraction. Anyway, the most valuable thing you can have in a gunfight is a mate, one more person to fight and one more person they are shooting at other than you!

Also, BUUUUUULSHITE there was a "delay in becoming aware of infringement". Something like that is classic Patent Trolling. Everyone has known what the Nintendo Wii is for the past half-decade.

If every patent troll got their way, we'd still be in the stone age with some bastard demanding 20% of all food that is cooked by fire.

Patents should be for INVENTIONS not vague ideas. Anyone can have an idea, but an idea that WORKS! Like patenting a lightbulb design using a carbon-filament treated in a certain way. Not the "idea" of somehow using electric current to generate light. There is a valid patent for a levitating car, the holder has no idea how to make a levitating car but whoever does figure it out must pay that twerp whatever they demand because "Huuur, I had the idea first"

By the way, they filed for this patent in summer 2005. The same time Nintendo hosted the Wii at E3.

 

[Dastardly]

Statute of limitations on filing is three years. They are well outside that, this is a non-issue.

http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/03/30/statute-of-limitations-in-copyright-law/

That's copyright law. This is about patent, however. Basically, you're not dealing with a statue of limitations in that case--but you can only claim damages up to 6 years back.

[link]http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/documents/appxl_35_U_S_C_286.htm[/link]

 

[Innegativeion]

1)I'm a terrible guy to choose to present the escapist.
2)Read the post,they don't "SUX" they just keep rehasheing instead of coming up with something original,look at the posts of people that replied to me.
3)they keep making new gimmicks that are unnessacery and wasting their time & money instead of doing something good.

See this is what I don't get.

-Nintendo first party games have always been good, objectively speaking. Whether you particularly like them or not, they universally sell well and universally get great reviews

-There exists 2 other console-companies, countless third party developers, not to mention all the PC developers, who collectively pump out large quantities of original franchises

-No "gimmick" Nintendo has ever put into their recent consoles has ever detracted from their bread and butter games, and in some cases improved them (as evidenced by the DS's sales). This shouldn't even be an issue unless you have a HUGE problem with a simple wrist flick or two, have arthritis of some kind, lack arms with which to touch a screen, or can't arse yourself to turn off 3D effects you don't like.

Considering these points, what's the problem, exactly? Why must Nintendo produce new franchises when the gaming industry has plenty of those? Their first party titles continue to dominate the market, why fix what isn't broken? They're not stealing sales from anyone.

My only issue with Nintendo is their third part philosophy, which they claim to be working on... even if they fail that again, its no reason to rage against them simply for being successful on first party titles alone.

 

[Yukinari]

The Nintendo hate up in here is baffling.
Like someone just said, they make quality games that get favorable reviews because they are made with care and are fun to play. Ive seen people hate their franchises and newer games for no reason, when they are built great, have good controls with maybe a minor wrist flicking motion or two, and arent about story or graphics, but what a game should be, an enjoyable experience. You have to be a cold hearted person to not like any of the games Nintendo made for the Wii or 3DS at this point.

 

[Treblaine]

Well, if they were just going after Nintendo, there might have been something to worry about, but considering they are going against tons of people who sell it and everyone who makes motion controls (thus, all the big 3), there probably won't be that much to worry about. On the other hand, this is the United States Legal System we're talking about...

Also:
>Nintendo is facing a stupid lawsuit
>first thing the escapist community says is "I HOPE THEY LOSE, 'CAUSE NINTENDO SUX!"
>Is not surprised in the least.

Why the fuck do people insist on posting in /v/ fashion even though they are on a completely different website.

>implying only /v/ or 4chan does that
>implying it isn't a very concise way of getting a point across.

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[Treblaine]

Well, if they were just going after Nintendo, there might have been something to worry about, but considering they are going against tons of people who sell it and everyone who makes motion controls (thus, all the big 3), there probably won't be that much to worry about. On the other hand, this is the United States Legal System we're talking about...

Also:
>Nintendo is facing a stupid lawsuit
>first thing the escapist community says is "I HOPE THEY LOSE, 'CAUSE NINTENDO SUX!"
>Is not surprised in the least.

Why the fuck do people insist on posting in /v/ fashion even though they are on a completely different website.

>implying only /v/ or 4chan does that
>implying it isn't a very concise way of getting a point across.

hatersgonnahate.jpg

>implying greentext didnt originate from 4chan
>implying there isnt an even better way of getting your point across, that way being typing like a normal fucking human being
>implying this shit isnt annoying as fuck when done on the escapist forums
>implying its not just 13 year old kids that want to scream "LOOK I VISIT 4CHAN" that make posts like this
>implying im hating and not just pointing something out

>2011
>not stopping this shit

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>implying you aren't enjoying this shit as much as I am.
>implying such a trivial subject as patent trolling lawsuits deserve better than 4chan-level discourse
>implying the hating thing is to be taken in any way seriously
>implying that implying means what either of us thinks it means

>2011
>still can't transmit sarcasm

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OT: (because something has to be) My main reason for dismissing this claim is this patent was filed right when Nintendo first unveiled their new system. That's prior art right there. That and everything else they have done indicates an unusually bold troll attempt that just might work for how many different pools they have pissed in.