Nintendo Switch....DOA
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Oh yeah, I'm totally cool with that. In fact I shit on a lot of the things I love on a daily basis. Nothing is perfect and criticism of flaws is healthy.Yoshi178 said:
There are people at my work who think that I secretly hate everything, when the truth is I love a lot of stuff that's incredibly stupid, but I revel in its terribleness rather than pretending that it's not terrible.
I'm currently excited about Nioh and Nier Automata, and I just finished playing Shadow Warrior 2 which I thoroughly enjoyed. So feel free to go nuts.
You need to stop caring so much about what people say. Trust me, it'll make your life a bit more calm and relaxed. It's ok for people to shit on things people like, or to be cynical about it. Unless YOU are the specific target, there's no need to get so wound upYoshi178 said:
Because to many it is important.aeroblaster said:
People want to know what they are purchasing is an improvement over what they already own. From what I've read most Wii U games ran at 720p at least. The Switch's big launch title, Breath of the Wild, running at 900p isn't a big leap from that especially when those customers are seeing terms such as 4k and Ultra HD bandied about.
Of course how good a game is doesn't depend on the graphics, I'm replaying Shining Force III at the moment, but they do help.inu-kun said:
Can you honestly say you'd be enjoying Breath of the Wild as much if it were made on the NES? Sure it'd still be a good game but as good? The power of a console isn't just in its graphics, it's the better sound, better physics, larger worlds, quicker loading.
Sure optimisation can help but the Switch will run into the wall a lot quicker than the rival systems.
The problem is as I said before, the Switch wants to be a home console and a handheld. Are third party developers really going to put the effort into games for the undocked Switch? I suspect we'll see, initially, them just making the games for the undocked Switch, accepting that 40% loss of power. Will those games still be good, sure. But they could have been a whole lot better.
Xenoblade X has a larger world than any PS4 or Xbox One game i've seen AND it doesn't have any load times besides for cutscenes and quick travel and even then it usually only takes a few seconds to load.votemarvel said:
on top of that, the Switch is using cartridges. it is a fact that cartridges don't require installation times, nor do they require long load times like discs do. power has got nothing to do with that.
SNES, N64 AND GAMECUBE say hi. Yeah nintendo is never about power ffs power is in the nintendo 64's name!Yoshi178 said:
People realize that Splatoon 2 and Minecraft are the biggest titles announced for Japan right?
Splatoon is bigger than Zelda, Super Mario and MK8 and can only really be compared to things like Pokemon, DQ, MH.
While Minecraft sold 1 million on Vita in Japan and is the main reason people continue to buy Vita over there. Hell even Wii U Minecraft was one of the most successful 3rd party games on the Wii U despite releasing an year ago and only getting a physical additional around 6 months ago.
Splatoon 2 reveal is already the 12th most viewed video on Nintendo Japan barely a week after the reveal. 1.7 million views compared to 1.1 mil for Super Mario and 1 mil for Zelda BoTW. I expect it to pass 2 million in one or two more days.
Splatoon is bigger than Zelda, Super Mario and MK8 and can only really be compared to things like Pokemon, DQ, MH.
While Minecraft sold 1 million on Vita in Japan and is the main reason people continue to buy Vita over there. Hell even Wii U Minecraft was one of the most successful 3rd party games on the Wii U despite releasing an year ago and only getting a physical additional around 6 months ago.
Splatoon 2 reveal is already the 12th most viewed video on Nintendo Japan barely a week after the reveal. 1.7 million views compared to 1.1 mil for Super Mario and 1 mil for Zelda BoTW. I expect it to pass 2 million in one or two more days.
Hate to break it to you mate, but the N64 and the GameCube were considered the "kiddie consoles" of their time. Raw power doesn't count for much if you can't use it effectively, and both the N64 and GC had their niggling bottlenecks.Fonejackerjon said:
And with the Super, Ninty was content to wait on bring it out for years after the Genesis was a thing, and was still releasing game for the NES years after that. The SNES's power came more from basic technological advancement than specific effort.
Nintendo has never been about power. Here's the thing; They have to start being about power if they want to be anything other than a "niche" developer. If a console has more power, then you can do more stuff with it. Right now 3rd party devs are looking at the specs, and trying to figure out what could be done with it. That's never a good sign. The Switch might sell, but it will never come close to touching PS4 or Xbone numbers. High sales puts dollar signs in front of your stocks, with the hits their stock prices have been taking, they need a high selling system. Which the Switch won't be.
Well that's part of my argument. If you don't like playing Nintendo games, then you shouldn't buy a Switch. Plain and simple. It's like paying more for an Apple device, you can't justify the cost unless you really enjoy the things found exclusively on Apple's products. Nintendo even said themselves, they're competing with the phone market more than the console market. App games on phones are the single biggest threat to Nintendo.BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
Proof here: http://appleinsider.com/articles/10/10/26/nintendo_president_says_apple_a_bigger_threat_than_microsoft_in_games
The only thing Nintendo has to meet are 2 requirements:008Zulu said:
1. Be more powerful than other handhelds.
2. Be more powerful than their last console.
They make bank selling old technology for $300 a pop. The 3DS XL sold for $250 during the same time period the Wii was selling for $200. They dominate the handheld market because there, they literally ARE the most powerful console by far. They have the highest third party support, and all they need to do is make sure things stay that way. They even pulled a "Xbox Scorpio/PS4 Pro" move with the NEW 3DS XL release, the same console but more power. It pains me how people don't see how obvious this is. Nintendo's main console is the handheld 3DS line, and now their home console is a handheld too. Because the Switch meets the 2 listed requirements, Nintendo is fine making that choice. If people are willing to spend $250 on a 3DS XL, spending $300 on a Switch is a no brainer since you get a console level of quality on your handheld now. With that you should now understand how the Switch will be one of the best selling consoles ever. By casually migrating the vast handheld support they have to their home console, they are suddenly going to have more support than Microsoft/Sony combined. This is gonna be the biggest blindside the industry has ever seen. And yes there will be shovelware like "1 2 Switch" which plagued the Wii, but at least this time the shovelware is portable which justifies it. There was nothing more awkward than playing a game with the depth of Wii Sports on your couch. It's makes much more sense on a phone or something portable, because the mental bias is there. "I play pong on my phone, not my home console."
I'm sorry to inform you: You were never a PC gamer. Any PC gamer could tell you what the specs are on their machine and what brands they used to build their rig. If you bought an Alienware and then "quit" because it cost too much to service, you were in the wrong neighborhood friend.RaikuFA said:
That argument makes no sense considering it has console level power. It is a console that can be made mobile, not the other way around like you are trying to suggest.Schadrach said:
The Switch is being marketed as a home console don't forget. If it as a home console is unable to perform at or about current consoles, then they have lost (and will continue to lose).aeroblaster said:
Why because you say so?008Zulu said:
it's already obvious that the Switch is gonna sell a shitload in Japan alone already just based on the cross home/handheld portability alone and then add in all those JRPG's the console is getting like Shin Magami Tensei, Xenoblade 2 as well as 4 damn Dragon Quest games.
but sure, it's Not like Nintendo have ever sold weaker hardware and trumped the competition with them in the past before or anything.....
I've got no idea where the hell that came from. If he gamed on a PC, he's a PC gamer. Plain and simple. He never mentioned anything about not understanding specs. If something fucks up, then it fucks up, not everyone knows how to fix these things. Unless there's a feud between you two I missedaeroblaster said: