Nintendo Wii: my expensive paperweight

[pantsoffdanceoff]

But OF COURSE that's what they are going to do. Appealing to everyone from ages 1-10 and 60+ gets them a shitload of money. They're not going to just put a lot of money into a game for only at 10% profit just for principle. Nintendo HAS no principle its just like any other company. Maybe when the next set of consoles come out and no one gets the Wii, they may start putting effort into their games again, but if I were you I would wait to the next Holiday and sell your Wii. Preferably Christmas you can make a lot of cash that way.

Really the saddest thing is that the company that cares most about their consumers right now is M$, and that's just BAD.

 

[Consistence]

it doesn't matter what kind of genre we's like were all loosing out from nintendo

 

[Eric the Orange]

Look Mr.Dingo, we all know your prefered next gen consol of choice is the PS3, but just because it's your favorite dosen't mean it has to be everybodys. Let eveyone have there own opinion.

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Right, maybe I should be clearer - there are a number of commercially available things that seem to us to be made solely with playing in a depleted state of mind (either drunk or, in Braid, Katamari Damacy and Okamis case, while high) in mind. I'm just saying that they are still not outside the realms of reasonable purchase.

Er, sorry, I guess I should have quoted what I was responding to where you said getting a 360 was going from bad to worse.

 

[megapenguinx]

I agree. After Zelda and Smash Brothers it's just been a never-ending flow of casual stuff with a few "hardcore" gems. I like the idea of more people playing games, but it seems like Nintendo doesn't care about the Nintendo faithful anymore, just the money they can get from everyone else.

They ARE in the business of making money.

They couldn't make slightly more by putting out some hardcore titles as well?

Not really actually...
No More Heroes didn't sell too well. If you put a "hard core" title on a system designed for people who like Cooking Mama chances are it might not sell too well.

Let me rephrase that...
They couldn't make slightly more by putting out a new Zelda title as well?

As much as I'm a fan of Zelda, I'd like to see some new IPs. Or heck give me a new Ice Climbers game

But you just said a new IP won't sell well.

I said "hard core" games wouldn't sell very well.
I never said new IP's wouldn't work

 

[Pimppeter2]

erased

 

[awsome117]

the Wii is ok. I play Brawl and Mario Party from time to time with me friends and we enjoy them. It doesnt have nearly as good games as the 360 and ps3 but the ones that are good, I dabble into from time to time

 

[Dramatic Flare]

Meh.
If you like Tactical RPGs, buy Fire Emblem and tell me how you navigate the permadeath and dragon level.
FUCKING DRAGONS. (seriously, why do they get umpteen bajillion health and high hit chance while I get.... shit?)

 

[SecretSmoke]

Got me a 360 and am having quite a bit of fun with that. PS3 isn't bad either. Most played game on the wii? Phantasy Star Online Ep. I&II. Good times with friends, lots of different equips, decent range of enimies and environments, and, what I feel to be better atmosphere than the 360 one.

 

[theSovietConnection]

And must you maintain this elitist attitude that PC=awesome, and therefore any game not on the PC can never be awesome?

Again, I never said that.

It's implied though

Play on a PC if you want really awesome games.

Perhaps it isn't the way you intended it to be taken, but you do come off very elitist by saying you should play on a PC for really awesome games. While PC is an excellent means of playing great games, it is far from the only one. I'm going to stop here before I end up rambling too long because I'm way too tired and am only going to end up rambling on and on, making less sense as I go.

 

[TMAN10112]

Same. I haven't touched my nintendo wii since I got bored of SSMB. I might get no more heros, but I'm a bit short on cash at the moment(just finished upgrading my pc ) and plan on getting Resident Evil 5 soon after it's out.

 

[Joeshie]

People who are disappointed with the Wii completely miss the point.

Play on a PC if you want really awesome games. Play on a Wii if you want really awesome times with friends and alcohol.

So the only reason to buy the Wii is for inebriated adventures?

Not that I'm suggesting your wrong, just that $250 for a machine that makes for a good time while drunk is a bit much.

How much do you spend on Karaoke?

Last time I went around $12 for 3-4 hours. Don't see what that has to do with the Wii though.

"a machine that makes for a good time while drunk". Alright, how much did you pay for Rock Band with all the instruments?

$150. But of course, I can enjoy Rock Band while I'm drunk or while I'm sober. Kind of like my PC and 360.

 

[peduncle]

I used to have a Wii, and i had higher expectations then. the only things i had for it was GH3, which is on everything with a screen, SSBB which sucked in comparison to SSBM.

so i sold it to my friend and got a 360

 

[theultimateend]

I agree. After Zelda and Smash Brothers it's just been a never-ending flow of casual stuff with a few "hardcore" gems. I like the idea of more people playing games, but it seems like Nintendo doesn't care about the Nintendo faithful anymore, just the money they can get from everyone else.

They ARE in the business of making money.

The problem about the money making business is that it never leads to positive change in the world.

Which is why its a poor business strategy.

Almost as poor as trying to buy luxury jets with your bailout money and only stopping because you got caught. ...I'm looking at you CITI bank...

 

[mcgooch]

Unfortunately the wii has not lived up to expectations. It is a brilliant concept but unfortunately the technology is still too gimmicky. There will come a day when serious games can be played on a motion sensitive console but that day has not arrived yet. I find that the motion-sensitivity actually detracts from my enjoyment of the games I've played on the wii (I mean the serious games not like wii sport which obviously is only good due to motion sensing). Its just so frustrating. The game I've most enjoyed playing on the wii is brawl and that doesn't use the motion sensing!

 

[Axolotl]

The problem about the money making business is that it never leads to positive change in the world.

Which is why its a poor business strategy.

Almost as poor as trying to buy luxury jets with your bailout money and only stopping because you got caught. ...I'm looking at you CITI bank...

How exactly is making money a bad business strategy?

 

[theultimateend]

The problem about the money making business is that it never leads to positive change in the world.

Which is why its a poor business strategy.

Almost as poor as trying to buy luxury jets with your bailout money and only stopping because you got caught. ...I'm looking at you CITI bank...

How exactly is making money a bad business strategy?

Ok lets play comprehension.

Making money is not a bad business strategy. (Because if you aren't making money you won't survive).

Being in the business of making money is.

But what's the difference! I need guidance! Ah well I'm here.

A company who is in the business of making money, as opposed to making money from being in the business of making a product (which are not possible in synchronicity), is not concerned with quality, with customer service, nor are they concerned with frankly anything that improves the region of business they happen to be marketing in.

Companies in the business of making money outsource jobs, ignore civil liberties (child labor and the likes), and as I said spend their bailout money on luxury jets or 30,000 dollar toilets. Because they aren't concerned with you at all, they just want your money and will scam you in any way they can.

Now you might say "You can do both!" No. You can either be in the business of making money (As EA decided upon a while back and they are suffering because of it like many other business's with that model) or you can be in the business of making quality goods or services that in turn provide you with money.

The moment you switch from the latter to the former you become that stereotypical (or cliche take your pick) corporation that so many hippies whine about all over the US. When you go around suckering people into loans they'll never be able to repay thinking you've got them under lock and key for life, you aren't a home loan business, you are a money making business. (I figured I'd end with another example).

 

[humpees]

But is there really anything wrong with "casual" gaming?

 

[Axolotl]

[The moment you switch from the latter to the former you become that stereotypical (or cliche take your pick) corporation that so many hippies whine about all over the US. When you go around suckering people into loans they'll never be able to repay thinking you've got them under lock and key for life, you aren't a home loan business, you are a money making business. (I figured I'd end with another example).

You don't answer my question at all then just say that people who are in it for the money are evil, you don't explain why it's a bad business strategy.