Nintendo Yanks 1080p Claim For New Super Mario Bros. U

[Zombie_Moogle]

I'm betting it'll still be running in 1080p, they just changed it to "in high definition" to make it clear to those that don't understand resolution figures that it will, indeed, look extra pretty.

Perhaps, but people know the phrase "1080p", even if they don't understand it. It's somewhat like brand recognition. Vast majority of people don't know what the "p" stands for, but they know it means it's better

Oh I dunno, someone with a 720p "HD ready" device or even an old CRT plugs their WiiU in, only to be disappointed by the low resolution on their screen and sues Nintendo for not providing what they promised. It's bound to happen sooner or later. Or they end up doing it like with the PS3, render it at a sub-HD resolution, and then just upscale it to 720/1080, then someone finds out and starts throwing pitch forks around.

OT: I highly doubt this isn't going to be 1080p. We're about a month from release, and they're not doing such a game-changer NOW. They probably just changed it for various unknown reasons. When people are actively looking for flaws in a product, they'll see it, even though it may not be there for everyone else.

Oh, I don't think they're taking it out; I think it was never there. My guess: they've been trying to make the game run 1080p without melting the WiiU, finally realized it wasn't happening within launch schedule, & gave up

 

[SuperTrainStationH]

1. The game still looks great for what its trying to be - a conservative, formulaic, revival of Super Mario World.

2. I'd prefer 1080p, but honestly it couldn't be less critical than in THIS game, its still high definition

3. This game is seemingly being prioritized to allow for a new Super Mario platformer to be out on Day 1 for a Nintendo system for the first time since 1996, 1080p is probably a sacrifice Nintendo made in that.

4. we're still in the earliest stages of the system's lifespan where developers are getting used to the hardware.

5. I wouldn't be concerned unless most games built from the ground up for Wii U AFTER the launch window are still 720p

I'd also like to add that anyone who would refuse to buy New Super Mario Bros. U because the resolution was less than 1080p probably wouldn't be in the market for a Nintendo console in the first place, let a lone 2D Mario platformer.

 

[Epona]

I'm betting it'll still be running in 1080p, they just changed it to "in high definition" to make it clear to those that don't understand resolution figures that it will, indeed, look extra pretty.

Perhaps, but people know the phrase "1080p", even if they don't understand it. It's somewhat like brand recognition. Vast majority of people don't know what the "p" stands for, but they know it means it's better

Oh I dunno, someone with a 720p "HD ready" device or even an old CRT plugs their WiiU in, only to be disappointed by the low resolution on their screen and sues Nintendo for not providing what they promised.

Such a lawsuit would fail and Nintendo wouldn't be concerned about such a failure of a lawsuit if it happened, they certainly wouldn't be concerned about such a lawsuit before it happened.

It's would be like someone hooking an NES up to a black and white TV and then suing Nintendo because the box showed the games in color.

 

[dwp9296]

and all 1080p games will be cell shaded, making all of this kind of pointless...

I would've thought that cel-shading would provide even greater incentive to be in 1080p. The sharp lines around the edge of the cel-shaded characters seem to be more jagged than normal graphics.

 

[Doom972]

With most people's TV screens, the difference between 1080p and 720p won't be noticed unless the person sits really close (60 cm) to it. I don't even know why they bothered listing the resolution as a selling point for their game. People will buy Mario games because of Mario.

 

[Mr.Mattress]

Great way to make a big deal out of nothing.
As soon as the WiiU and NSMBU were announced, Nintendo said it would be 720p. The "1080p" on the site was obviously a typo of someone who made the site, not who made the game.

Other game, announced games, will be 1080p. If the PS3 can support 1080p, the WiiU will do that without any problems.
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/10/10/wii-u-games-graphics-would-need-to-be-downscaled-on-playstation-3-and-xbox-360/

?Basically that does require? well, not huge amounts more graphics processing power, but still considerable. If we would publish that on the other consoles, then I believe that there would be some small downscaling of what it is right now.?

?I think we didn?t start really until sometime early in the year still, but the fact was that we had a lot of things going on. Then when we got over the old things, we started with the Wii U and then in two days we had it running,? he explained. ?We had it running really fast. So it was more about knowing your own tech and then having that ?eureka!? moment of making it work on this new hardware."

-Mikael Haveri, sales and marketing manager,
Frozenbyte

This. Nintendo said themselves that all they need is 720p, and that they don't need to run 1080p, but others can (And odds are Nintendo will eventually). Just because Nintendo is choosing not to run it at 1080p doesn't mean the WiiU Cannot run 1080p.

Now it turns out that Nintendo can no longer strongly proclaim that a game that Nintendo made specifically for the WiiU, a console Nintendo made, will run in 1080p. This is either a sign that there may be more games in the future that the WiiU simply will not be able to support 1080p or that Nintendo is being lazy with the new Mario game and not even bothering to design it to run in 1080p.

It's the latter [http://wiiudaily.com/2012/06/wii-u-games-run-in-720p/] (Though I wouldn't call it laziness). Most [http://wiiudaily.com/2012/09/zombiu-runs-in-1080p/] Games [http://wiiu-gamers.com/news/batman-armored-edition-and-assassins-creed-iii-running-at-1080p/] Will [http://www.slashgear.com/black-ops-ii-wii-u-details-unleashed-13247525/] Run [http://www.examiner.com/article/transformers-prime-receives-1080p-upgrade-for-the-wii-u] At [http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/32019] 1080p [http://wiiudaily.com/2012/10/monster-hunter-3-ultimate-to-run-in-1080p-on-the-wii-u/].

 

[Rigs83]

I suspect this may have something to do with the gamepad. It's not high def so having to render a standard (or close to standard) resolution moving image and a 1080P image simultaneously probably over taxed the system

 

[Pebkio]

Bwahaha! We're all very impressed about how you're finally able to compete with the 7th generation consoles from other companies.

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In all honesty, I'm a little depressed to see people still defending Nintendo. They're posting links to games that are announced to run in 1080p. They just can't see the irony of posting those links in a thread about a game they USED to be able to link to as 1080p.

"Well, okay," they say to themselves, "they just decided not to run this game in 1080 because they were happy with they're at. We're certainly not going to see this happen with all the other games we're expecting at launch. In fact! They had always said New Super Mario Bros. U wasn't going to be 1080p. Yeah, they haven't disappointed us at all! We love you, Nintendo, with all of our hearts..."

How many more times are they going to have to let you down before you stop believing in them? Because I'm pretty sure we're on letdown 1396...

You know the last time I didn't feel disgusted at Nintendo? It was with their Gamecube that I still own and play on occasion.

 

[SoulSalmon]

I imagine someone at Nintendo got little ahead of themselves when they wrote that.
My guess would be that the game can run 1080p in Single Player fine, but once you have the display on the control and all four players on screen things might have t be toned down a bit.
Or the console is simply new and they don't know how to push it yet.

Either way, this isn't boding well for the WiiU, and of course inb4 people start up with the "lolol 1 game isn't 1080p, console sucks".
Oh wait...

 

[Evil Smurf]

the WiiU has a different market to the Xbox and the PS3's leet fanbase.

 

[krazykidd]

With the original Wii only capable of 480p resolution, the Wii U's ability to fully take advantage of today's most popular high definition standards should be a pretty big deal for consumers.

Why should consumers be impressed by 720p? The 360 and PS3 have been doing that for 6 years now. PC for even longer.

Yeah, this... this will probably be a big deal. So the WiiU does 720p... so does the 360 and PS3. Hell, the PS3 does 1080p on some games, just not a lot. If they're trying to cater to the hardcore base, this is not the way to do it. They've been waiting for a true 1080p console to come out, and it looks like we'll have to wait for the next XBox or Playstation to get it.

Never was really interested in the WiiU, but this just further cements my choice.

Because all hardcore gamers care about is graphics right?

 

[Mr.Mattress]

In all honesty, I'm a little depressed to see people still defending Nintendo. They're posting links to games that are announced to run in 1080p. They just can't see the irony of posting those links in a thread about a game they USED to be able to link to as 1080p.

"Well, okay," they say to themselves, "they just decided not to run this game in 1080 because they were happy with they're at. We're certainly not going to see this happen with all the other games we're expecting at launch. In fact! They had always said New Super Mario Bros. U wasn't going to be 1080p. Yeah, they haven't disappointed us at all! We love you, Nintendo, with all of our hearts..."

How many more times are they going to have to let you down before you stop believing in them? Because I'm pretty sure we're on letdown 1396...

You know the last time I didn't feel disgusted at Nintendo? It was with their Gamecube that I still own and play on occasion.

Until I hear otherwise, and until Activision stops proclaiming it to the high heavens [http://www.slashgear.com/black-ops-ii-wii-u-details-unleashed-13247525/], I will believe what Nintendo has told me. If other companies such as Activision start saying "Hey, we aren't gonna make it 1080p anymore, nor are we upscaling it from 720p to 1080p", then I will start to complain. As it stands, only Nintendo is using 720p, while everyone else is using 1080p.

 

[theultimateend]

1) No, "the Nintendo crowd" aren't all idiots on everything media. Many just don't play THAT many games and got sucked into the worst, yet best-selling system of this gen.

I dunno if I'd call it the worst.

The 360 only had 2 real Viva Pinata games.

That is not enough good games >: (.

Microsoft I demand a new Viva Pinata or you are dead to me!

That poor 360 has been getting dust since the last VP released. I just can't justify getting a game on it instead of PC or PS3, at least Wii titles are uniquely Nintendo (in the cases of the ones I bought).

Skyward Sword was something terrible though >.>...

 

[SoulChaserJ]

This makes me remember why I keep coming here. Because only gamers would care that this was changed from 1080p to HD. The Wii/WiiU audience mostly wouldn't know 1080p from 480p or the difference between an LCD TV and a CRT TV(other than apparent size). The Nintendo crowd (to me) seem impartial to the type of visuals being presented and care more about the gameplay experience as a whole.

This quote is kinda funny because you insult gamers and the "wii/wiiU audience" like they two separate entities. Yes this is supposed to be the next gen of gaming and technology has long be able to perfect 1080p so its not really unreasonable to expect it. Also saying that the wii audience wouldn't know 1080p from 480p is kinda ignorant and basically stating that the audience is so stupid they wont know a difference between standard and high quality. Even my grandparents in their old age can tell between standard definition and blue ray 1080p.

Nintendo is supposed to be trying to appeal to the hardcore gamers and this isn't really the way to do it.

Guess you don't get that most 40+ year olds who bought the wii, generally have no idea about screen resolution. Or maybe you turn to your 70 year old grandmother and ask her if this is really 1080p or if it's 1080i?

 

[GAunderrated]

This makes me remember why I keep coming here. Because only gamers would care that this was changed from 1080p to HD. The Wii/WiiU audience mostly wouldn't know 1080p from 480p or the difference between an LCD TV and a CRT TV(other than apparent size). The Nintendo crowd (to me) seem impartial to the type of visuals being presented and care more about the gameplay experience as a whole.

This quote is kinda funny because you insult gamers and the "wii/wiiU audience" like they two separate entities. Yes this is supposed to be the next gen of gaming and technology has long be able to perfect 1080p so its not really unreasonable to expect it. Also saying that the wii audience wouldn't know 1080p from 480p is kinda ignorant and basically stating that the audience is so stupid they wont know a difference between standard and high quality. Even my grandparents in their old age can tell between standard definition and blue ray 1080p.

Nintendo is supposed to be trying to appeal to the hardcore gamers and this isn't really the way to do it.

Guess you don't get that most 40+ year olds who bought the wii, generally have no idea about screen resolution. Or maybe you turn to your 70 year old grandmother and ask her if this is really 1080p or if it's 1080i?

I could do those things but that's not the point. My point is you are insulting gamers for having an issue with this and insulting anyone who owns a wii as being completely ignorant to technology. You just make blanket generalizations without any proof. A few years back I worked at a job that sold game consoles and you would be surprised how much these 40+ year olds have kept up with technology.