"No breathing human has the right to say birth control or abortion is okay" (HS Newspaper Fun)

[waj9876]

Oh...joy...another abortion thread...

Getting my opinion out of the way, I see nothing wrong with the birth control pill, I personally don't like abortion, but I'm not against it. There, done, let's move on. Don't respond to this part of my post, I won't read it.

So, on topic. While I entirely disagree with the person who wrote the article, I do have this to say. People can have different opinions, don't sink down to their level by attacking them. Only act against them if they do something about their opinions that harms someone else.

 

[maninahat]

There was a push to remove the "free platform" concept from my local student union, basically as a means to try and curb any BNP or EDL groups that might exist within the university. What bothered me wasn't so much the free-speech issue, but the fact that being a BNP member isn't even illegal. I mean, I hardly want these guys to be around, but I don't think stifling the voice of a (somewhat) legitimate political party is the right thing to do. Let them have their platform, and let people decide if they're a pack of fucktards for themselves.

I don't agree. As I understand it the BNP has at least in the past had a platform of fairly overt racism. No university owes them a platform to spout their hatred, especially when that hatred has a very real likelihood of targeting the very students who go to the university. If they want to have their platform, let them have it on a street corner.

Yes, the BNP is racist, and I can see why people don't feel they should have a platform. But where exactly should the line be drawn? After all, the conservative party is kind of racist and prejudicial at times too, and I wouldn't mind seeing them losing their platform. The thing is, the BNP is as legitimate a party as the conservative party, so if we as a society allow people to identify as BNP, vote BNP, or pass around BNP material, does it make sense for a Student Union to treat the BNP any differently from any other party?

I recognise you can take this to the opposite extreme too; "if you let the BNP have a platform, shouldn't you provide one for the KKK or neo-nazis too?" I haven't figured out an answer for that yet.

 

[jdogtwodolla]

The subject was about ponies.

Well... Shut Up!

Jk. I guess if there's ever a good time to do that, it's senior year. If I even wore an MLP shirt to my school, I would get my shit kicked in less than an hour.

yeah, this article was from the perspective of someone who was not yet a casual fan introducing people to something they didn't know about in a humorous way.

 

[Xarathox]

Blow jobs. The only logical conclusion to how she's in that position.

And that technically isn't sex so you still won't be guilty of premartial sex. Just like if you do it anally /sarcasm.

Dumb article. While I still can't pick a side on the whole abortion issue (except in cases of rape where I'm all for), denying birth control is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Also it may just be that the only things I've been reading for the past 4-5 weeks have been scientific articles, but I'd really like to see some sources for some of those moral stats she's throwing out.

Funny you mentioned anal. The local University where I live is christian based, so a few of the kids who go there come from that religious back ground*. Anywho, I found out a few years ago that there is an "unofficial" anal sorority, wherein the group of girls involved willingly allow guys (usually their boyfriends) to ride that Hershey highway, under the delusion of keeping their wholesome virginity intact until marriage. Never mind the fact that the act goes against their religion.

As a learned individual, I took it upon myself to investigate this group by "poking" around. The knowledge I acquired was quite "pleasant".

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*Fun fact: The majority of said University is filled with kids from all over the US who don't come from Christian backgrounds.

 

[Karlaxx]

Thank you for the hearty laugh, OP. I was worried about how I was going to work off those potato chips while it's so cold outside and the treadmill's broken.

 

[demonflowers]

There was never anything even close to this in any newspaper at my school. Everything was always super PC, but that could be because I'm from Toronto. Maybe there are cultural differences?

Also, I don't mind that she has those opinions (although I totally disagree). What bothers me is that she is trying to force her ideals on others. If I want to go out and have premarital sex, what does it matter to her? It won't taint her moral purity or whatever. I mean, I'm not going to force her to have sex, what right does she or anyone else have to tell me what to do?

 

[Froggy Slayer]

When I was in middle school, I was approached to write an editorial for the paper. I wrote said piece stating why the Iraq War was a bad idea (this was when it was literally just starting). Thus began the only spat of bullying I had to endure. I, being none too thrilled at being called a dumb liberal *****, never contributed again.

At least people read yours ;_;

"If you don't agree with us, you hate children! You don't hate childern, do you?"

I hate children. Children suck.

 

[Froggy Slayer]

Ok, I find that image of the crappy looking gun shooting a gigantic bullet labelled "PROTECT!!" to be absolutely hilarious. XD

THAT THING WON'T EVEN FIT IN THE BARREL YOU NUT! XD

Actually, what made me laugh is that it appears to be firing the entire shell casing.

 

[BOOM headshot65]

Wow...I didnt think it was possible for me to think George Carlin was an even bigger scumbag than I already thought. But that video proves me wrong. Congrats.

 

[afroebob]

Birth Control is good
Abortion is bad
This journalist is fucking atrocious. I can't even begin to think how many ways this goes against journalistic responsibilities, not to mention how much of a **** she sounds like.

 

[spartan231490]

I don't see how I have any business telling anyone whether they can or can't use BC or abortion, so I guess I'm pro-choice. As for guns, gun control is counter-productive, insulting, and dangerous, any person willing to look at the facts objectively will see this. I would raise my flame shield, if I actually cared.

Also, my school didn't have much of a paper. I never knew anyone who read it. I think we had a controversy because of something one of the lesbian writers wrote, but it was over the administration's reaction to it, not what she said. We had a big wear pink day or something.

 

[The Ubermensch]

RE: Birth Control
You monsters, how could you!

Could be considered NSFW, you push play you take responsibility for that.

Spoiler: I love you Gainax

I love the Japanese take on Christianity

Oh my goodness; Look at all of these opinions. It's almost as though people shouldn't choose for themselves!

 

[Joccaren]

Ok, the first article is just an idiot. I'm guessing either over-zealous religious nutjob [Not bashing religion, there are a lot of reasonable theists out there. Then there's the unreasonable ones who spout ideals very similar to what this girl is spouting, which makes it look like there could be a link. Kind of sad I've got to say this to be sure really...], or just some absolute nutjob. Any level of logical thinking destroys any argument she could have. And the whole "No breathing person has the right to say birth control or abortion are OK." or W/E... Yeah, genius. If that's the case, no breathing person has the right to say its wrong either, so how about you shut up about it 'cause last time I checked, you were a breathing person.

The second one has a little more ground. Its an opinion, its not entirely unfounded, and whilst I don't agree with it it has some level of reasoning behind it.

On a much more important note, that has been said many times already;
GOOD GOD GET THAT NEWSPAPER AN EDITOR.
SERIOUSLY.
The formatting in that thing, especially the second one, is bloody awful. It almost hurt to read it due to how stupidly it was set out. Just... If you've got three words on a line, and twice as much empty space as space filled with words, shove another words in there please, for the love of god. It just looks stupid if you don't.

Thankfully school's here in Australia don't have school Newspapers, or if they do there's not many of them. If they did exist I just know I'd be going up to a lot of people and telling them how stupid they are.

 

[TheLogicalGamer]

My school had a paper... that our principal edited with a black marker whenever anything not related to school events or someone making her look good came through. She also cut my comics whenever I decided to use slapstick comedy, and gave me detention and cut me from the staff when I tried to use the "Tom and Jerry is more violent!" argument.

As for editorials that didn't get published, we had a rule. Cite sources, or it get cut early. Either be on site investigating, or cite a source, or it didn't happen. Rule worked fairly well, even opinion pieces had to cite sources if they called up a generalization or statistic.

Surprisingly I went to a school in Oklahoma, the slightly-more-sane state.

As for the abortion thing... its the woman's choice. Only morally sound argument. It is her child, she has to deal with the stress of carrying it to term and (if we are dealing with increasingly outdated gender roles that are often reversed) will wind up taking care of it. So I post it as her choice entirely. The potential loss of another human life is negligible, and we are facing a overpopulation issue down the line anyway.

As for legitimate points of view for going against it, since I used to debate a lot and I love playing devil's advocate, would be that we removed a person from existing at all. If you believe in souls, then there is the problem of if that embryo has a soul, and if you just killed its anchor-point. Really besides that, there doesn't seem to be a justifiable reason for this.

As for Birth Control... no arguments at all there. I can't even think of a religious one off the top of my head. No embryo, no life, no soul. Nothing. Its just... nothing. It has so many benefits, including checking human population growth, and it also deals with hormone issues in women.

Not that I will ever have to deal with abortion in my own personal life unless the unthinkable happens (The R Word to someone I care about, yes I call it the R word to ward of moderators). Birth Control on the other hand... kinda essential. I have a few issues that might have genetic factors (I'm on the Autistic Spectrum) so... procreation is a bit hard to get behind. I had enough trouble with it as a kid, and risking creating someone with the same issues is... hard to consider.

Oh, and now i have to go find a Vampire. Easy way to stop breathing and still be able to complain... of course i still have to inhale air to talk... oh bother.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I dont know if we really had a high school paper. We had school announcements (honor student privileges, though I was offered once on recommendation from a teacher), and small like, flyer thing each week saying the news of thes chool for the week (school planned events, lunch, birthdays, etc etc).

we had a writing magazine (I got published in once) that was internally published and students paid like five dollars for and you could read/see any pictures, poems, stories, songs students did (that was monthly). I remember I got second for a Halloween contest but was ultimately not published (despite top three in each category would be published) for being too disturbing and graphic.

The only thing I can say came close to this was an honor students pettiness to announce the secrets of all the "sluts" in school and people who pissed her off (and later blamed it on her cycle despite not being on it) and one was a girl had lost a baby through miscarriage that damaged her cause no one really knew she was pregnant to begin with.

Besides, I remmber when we were talked to about sex ed in high school no one ever said abortion was an option. tehy had mentioned it, only because one girl was brave enough to say she had one after her dad raped her, and said in some very rare situations its acceptable and perhaps even necessarily. but no one ever say it should be considered as an option and alternative.

 

[Daniel Ferguson]

Highschool newspapers aren't exactly the peak of journalistic integrity. Neither are most commercial newspapers, for that matter...

 

[Innegativeion]

While I think no one has any right to impose upon another person's right to abortion, I can see why, even from a non-religious standpoint, some may take the stance that abortion should be illegal. I disagree, but I can at least understand why an educated person would reach that conclusion.

Opposing birth control, however, is just goddamned ignorant.

I get it. Sex should always be fruitful, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thing is, while the logical argument of "protecting human life" can be made for abortion, there is no rational reason to deny birth control sex.

"Because the bible says so" is the only argument for opposing the right to birth control, really, and that's not gonna hold up in any scientific discussion. Anything you kill by using birth control has no greater right to life than the billions of skin cells that die and flake off of each of us every day.

 

[Singularly Datarific]

Anything you kill by using birth control has no greater right to life than the billions of skin cells that die and flake off of each of us every day.

Only half the Chromosomes

 

[Seydaman]

Being a supporter of abortion and birth control, this conflicts with my views. But whatever, people be dumb.