No Right Answer: America's Greatest Obsession Ever

Alorxico

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Sex and violence are, unfortunately, starting to merge into a new unhealthy obsession here in America. Violence is often portrayed as exciting and sexy, while sex is itself is a wild and dangerous act of pure pleasure with no consequences. Both are also portrayed as things from which you cannot escape. I believe Yahtzee has mentioned in a few of his game reviews how more and more often female characters, be them supporting or lead, always end up in a situations in which they almost get raped because THAT is how you make things exciting and climactic (no pun intended). They are necessary components to "real fun" in American media culture.

But the dark side to this obsession in that it dulls our responses to it. We accept the sex and violence we see in games and movies and television shows because "it isn't real", but subconsciously take in what is presented to us as what should BE real, and so when we are confronted with REAL sex or REAL violence we are dazed and don't know how to respond.

I'll give you an example: I remember taking a legal class in college and my professor coming in to show us a video. He said that in the video he was going to show us, which was a made for TV movie that got banned in some states, a young girl was going to be raped and anyone who did not feel comfortable watching that could leave. I was the only one who left, everyone else sat and watched it. He then showed a clip from some Tom Cruise movie where a student fantasizes about shoots his entire class with machine guns, I was the only one to turn my head away from the screen. I asked one of my classmates why she watched those scenes and she told me I needed to "grow up" because they weren't real. Two weeks later she stopped showing up to class and we later learned it was because she had witnessed a shooting at a local bar and was now terrified to leave her house.

Sex and violence are real aspects of life, at times they are glamorous and at times they are hideous but people do not want to SEE the hideous side. The hideous side, the victims of abuse and violence and war and crime, are things people want to see because it makes them feel helpless and powerless. They want to see the glamorous side, the fun side, because it makes them feel powerful and in control. But we are going to far over into the hideous side of things, the entertainment industry is pushing us to far into the darkness and telling us that THAT is where the fun is.

The hard part, as consumers, is to now snap out of our daze and say "NO! That is not fun!" and re-evaluate, re-classify, re-define what is "acceptable violence/sex" in the realm of entertainment and what is not. Yes, Art is a mirror off which life is reflected, but that does not mean the reflection is 100% correct! It is an inverse, a polarized image of reality, and if you try to navigate your away around a room based on a mirror image, you are going to hurt yourself.
 

ecoho

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KaZuYa said:
Guns.

By far the biggest and most dangerous American obsession, You have a multi billion dollar industry who are selling guns to any and everyone all based on the biggest and obvious con ever.

It's written into the constitution so it's the be all and end all, I mean come on guys that's the bullshit religion pulls, disregard common sense and any inklings of humanity all because it's written down and your politicians say anyone attacking it is un-American. They aren't doing that for your sake they are doing it to protect the money which fills their pockets.

Ignoring the debate about American military action overseas, Look at Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. During that attack, 20 first-grade children aged six and seven were killed. Yet your politicians would rather that happen again than ban guns its sick and unbelievable to the rest of the world. People try to say it only happened because the kid was mentally disturbed and it's not gun ownership but the checks done for said ownership. Again utter bullshit fuelled by the Gun companies, Humans are not predictable, profiling doesn't work and people can snap at any point, it's access to guns that is the problem.
ok just want to point out that first you could do the same with any weapon as children are easy targets, that's why these people chose them. Next the fact that sandy hook was a product of people like YOU who keep the discussion on guns instead of the real problem which is a crappy as hell mental health program which just keeps getting worse.

OT: id say we have more of an obsession with personal image then violence or sex, as that leads to bullying which fucks up people for years.
 

RodSk8Dude

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Violence is what we did to survive in the forests, sex is kind of what is saw as a reward (which makes sense when you consider that the ones who did get their "reward" got to pass their genes, but I think humans are smart enough to know they aren't supposed to think like this, except they don't use their intelligence, and even if they do, if there's less blood than usual in their brain, it might make no difference).

I think sex in media gets people mad more than violence though, since, as I said, it's seen as a reward, and if they are reminded it exists, they are reminded they haven't been doing it much, which makes them think there's something wrong with them for not getting the "reward" (BECOUSE THEIR NERDS WHO DONT HAS SEX LOL.. or speaking seriously, because the media portrays anyone not getting laid everyday, or at least at the end of the story, as a loser).
 

Lieju

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It seems to me that the problem is that violence, which is a bad thing in real life, is glorified, and sex, that's a normal part of human life is demonized.
I'd say the obsession with sex in the US is creepier, at least, and includes all these ideas of control and pushing your nose into other people's private business.

Why should anyone care what other people do in their bedrooms amongst consenting adults?


Hellkiller15 said:
The only way I could see about fixing this is by somehow making sure children/teenagers don't have accept to stuff like porn or glamour magazines so they don't build up these expectations in their head. Maybe increasing the age you can watch porn as well, I know I'd suck but it might be beneficial to society in the long hall if very frustrating to all newly 18 year olds.
Or make better porn and educate people on what sex is actually like and the difference in fantasy and reality.

How would you even be able to regulate access to porn?
 

Wesley Brannock

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I wouldn't say that we've got an " obsession " with sex. Sex is how we keep our numbers up that is a biological need to our society. I would say we have unhealthy attitude and outlook of sex. But the issue isn't with sex but to how it is perceived by the public at large. However violence on the other hand we've got a bigger issue with. Violence is destructive people are killed , maimed people lose loved ones more to violence then sex. Yet sex is demonized while violence gets a free ride. While our obsession with sex maybe childish it isn't destructive but unfortunately the same CAN NOT be said about violence.
 

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Lieju said:
Hellkiller15 said:
The only way I could see about fixing this is by somehow making sure children/teenagers don't have accept to stuff like porn or glamour magazines so they don't build up these expectations in their head. Maybe increasing the age you can watch porn as well, I know I'd suck but it might be beneficial to society in the long hall if very frustrating to all newly 18 year olds.
Or make better porn and educate people on what sex is actually like and the difference in fantasy and reality.

How would you even be able to regulate access to porn?
Better porn would be good in the overall changing porn from fantasy to reality thing. However Sex Ed has always been bad and I think it's always going to be bad because it's such an inherently awkward topic.

And I doubt anyone could ever successfully regulate porn. I'm just throwing out ideas and hypothesising for mental exercises mainly as a way to stave off boredom. :)