No Right Answer: Best Animation Style Ever

[Firefilm]

Best Animation Style Ever

Alright, it's time to throw down. In a show that's based around settling debates, one question rises again and again; Why does Dan hate Anime? For that matter, why would anyone hate Anime? Oh if only we had a forum where Dan could defend his stance against a bearded, charismatic character and then the best argument could win ... you see where I'm going with this. East vs. West, people, and let the best animation style win!


And don't forget, if you don't understand our decisions or want to have more of our material to complete your shrines to us, Mondays feature a new written companion piece titled No Right Explanation. We dare you to make less sense!



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[Qitz]

Here I thought this was going to be about Art Style, Gritty, Cell shaded, ect...

I love Dan's argument, well more Chris' reaction to it.

How can you hate ShinChan? That show is hilarious.

 

[Vault Citizen]

My fiancee doesn't like anime (she doesn't like simplistic art styles) but I got her to enjoy Death Note by showing her the live action version instead.

 

[GamemasterAnthony]

Suggestion: Ghost in the Shell

Both of the movies AND the "Stand Alone Complex" series.

This MAY make you change your mind about anime, Dan.

 

[Mikeyfell]

How the fuck did Dan get 4 points?
The internet has destroyed debating forever.

I've seen Akira and part of Full Metal Alchemist so Anime sucks.
I've played Call of Duty so First Person Shooters suck.
What's the difference between those two arguments?
Why is one of them acceptable?

 

[Scarim Coral]

Err doesn't Dan know that Digimon is technically Anime?

While I do agreed on both sides, I thought it was going to be a draw but still I don't really care that Westen win (I'm pretty much netural for this episode).

 

[artanis_neravar]

Best Animation Style Ever

Alright, it's time to throw down. In a show that's based around settling debates, one question rises again and again; Why does Dan hate Anime? For that matter, why would anyone hate Anime? Oh if only we had a forum where Dan could defend his stance against a bearded, charismatic character and then the best argument could win ... you see where I'm going with this. East vs. West, people, and let the best animation style win!


And don't forget, if you don't understand our decisions or want to have more of our material to complete your shrines to us, Mondays feature a new written companion piece titled No Right Explanation. We dare you to make less sense!



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I'm going to go out on a limb and say Code Geass. It's a more serious anime so there are very few if not none of the visual animation jokes like the "rain drop", it was an original animations, so unlike DBZ or Naruto it's not based on a manga and as a result they didn't have to extended out episodes with fluff to try to match up with the manga. The animation is good, and it has a very well thought out story.

 

[mcnally86]

While we are generalizing everything. Aren't the popular (in the west) Miazaki films all about some sort of girl, then something bad happens to her, then she falls in love, then things get more or less ok but not great?

 

[ZZoMBiE13]

I'm in Dan's camp on this one. There just isn't much anime that I care for. I appreciate the style. As an artist I can see the amount of work and care that goes into it and it can be awe inspiring. But as a whole, anime holds little appeal for me personally. That's not to say that it's bad or that it has no merit, it's just usually not my cup of tea save for a few exceptions like Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop.

 

[artanis_neravar]

How the fuck did Dan get 4 points?
The internet has destroyed debating forever.

I've seen Akira and part of Full Metal Alchemist so Anime sucks.
I've seen a trailer for Call of Duty so First Person Shooters suck.
What's the difference between those two arguments?
Why is one of them acceptable?

Because games are different than tv/movies. You need to play a game before you can determine whether it or it's genre suck. Also Dan did say that he doesn't really mean all anime sucks, just the stuff he has seen.

 

[Roganzar]

A huge point that was overlooked was that anime came about because of Disney cartoons. So western animation, in a sense, created what we know as Anime today.
Probably, would have come about on its own but the fact remains.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

The big "rain drop" as you call it is supposed to be a sweat drop and it usually signifies exasperation. You'd have to be an idiot not to be able to figure that out, esp. considering when it appears the character usually has an exasperated and/or annoyed expression on their face to go with it.

 

[BrunDeign]

Someone suggest Bobobo, so Dan's opinion of anime can be ruined FOREVER.

 

[Mikeyfell]

How the fuck did Dan get 4 points?
The internet has destroyed debating forever.

I've seen Akira and part of Full Metal Alchemist so Anime sucks.
I've seen a trailer for Call of Duty so First Person Shooters suck.
What's the difference between those two arguments?
Why is one of them acceptable?

Because games are different than tv/movies. You need to play a game before you can determine whether it or it's genre suck. Also Dan did say that he doesn't really mean all anime sucks, just the stuff he has seen.

So then
I've played Call of Duty, all FPS's suck.
Is that any better?

This is just a bit more personal for me because I've had to deal with "I don't like Anime" people before.

There's the whole Anime is not a genre, it's a medium argument (Which applies to western animation too)
So when somebody says "I don't like Anime" they think they're saying "I don't like Si-fi" when what they're actually saying is "I don't like movies"

Obviously neither one of them should have won because there is No Right Answer but Dan just argued poorly.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Suggestion: Ghost in the Shell

Both of the movies AND the "Stand Alone Complex" series.

This MAY make you change your mind about anime, Dan.

I second this.

Ghost in the Shell has very few of the tropes that are in conventional anime.

It's still has robots, but hey, it's the future, and the'ye not as ridiculous as the crap from Gundam.

 

[RJ Dalton]

I don't think you can break it down to just West vs. East. Both "sides" have a huge variety of styles in animation. For example, you couldn't call the style used by Mamoru Oshii (Ghost in the Shell, Jin-Roh) to be the same as the style used Studio Ghibli and if you even think of calling it the same style as Dragonball Z or Sailor Moon, then I'm going to have to introduce you to this here crowbar of mine. On the flip side, can you say with a straight face that even every Disney film has the same animation style? The very premise of this debate is overly broad and therefore flawed at its core.

 

[Lunar Templar]

@Dan: Elfen Lied, partly cause its good, partly cause there's non of the sweat drops and such you hate, and partly cause its short clocking in at 13 eps or so.

and

Vampire Hunter D, the first one. a good, but bloody anime flick

other wise :/ really ... the style that brought us forgettable crap like SPONGE BOB won .... -.- no matter how crappy the anime there's always an over arcing plot, (unless your FLCL or The Excel Saga*) also, Akira and DBZ suck, so it little wonder why Dan doesn't like anime ...

Spoiler: *

stay away from the excel saga, it will make you dumber. if you want a dumb, doesn't really go anywhere anime that wont hurt your head, FLCL, or magical shopping arcade abinabashi both manage funny with out being retarded

 

[LostintheWick]

"Anime" really only means animation from Japan. That's pretty broad.
This argument is really "Which is better: Eastern or Western animation"

They are simply too different to properly compare because of differences in culture and subject matter. And although Miyazaki's films are considered "anime", I wouldn't lump them in that category.