No Right Answer: Most Addictive Timesink Ever
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They are right. Pokemon is like Crack
But its SOOOOO FUCKING GOOD
I always find time to use my team at the battle subway.
But its SOOOOO FUCKING GOOD
I always find time to use my team at the battle subway.
Once you get into the meta, yeah, Pokemon is a massive timesink. Getting the right natures, getting the good TMs (thank god for that change in gen 5), getting the EVs and then raising to level 100, breeding, and then there's planning the right moveset and strategies and then there's the online battles.
And if you REALLY want to be obsessive you get into IVs and Shinies.
And if you REALLY want to be obsessive you get into IVs and Shinies.
Know whats even more addicting than either Pokemon OR Minecraft?
MINECRAFT POKEMON!
Yes, it exists and yes, it's freaking hilarious.
Though Minecraft gets boring once you've built a few neat things its like, eh, nothing happens now because no NPCs give a toss about what you just built.
MINECRAFT POKEMON!
Yes, it exists and yes, it's freaking hilarious.
Though Minecraft gets boring once you've built a few neat things its like, eh, nothing happens now because no NPCs give a toss about what you just built.
I feel like Kyle was totally jipped on this one. He made the better points and yet still lost. Boo, I say.
And nothing is a worse timesink than Civilization. Which one, you may ask? ALL OF THE CIVILIZATION! I've never played a game of Civ and wanted to quit. It's always obligations to my life that keep me from continuing. I just want to play for... just... one... more... turn...
And nothing is a worse timesink than Civilization. Which one, you may ask? ALL OF THE CIVILIZATION! I've never played a game of Civ and wanted to quit. It's always obligations to my life that keep me from continuing. I just want to play for... just... one... more... turn...
I think he hit the nail on the head when he said Minecraft is like a zen garden. You just get into a daze and build. Hell, you groom. Not as fiercely addictive as pokemon, where there's always goals, stats and numbers, all spiced with skinner's box.
Still, I don't think arguments about tie-ins should have rewarded points in regards to the addictiveness of the game itself.
Still, I don't think arguments about tie-ins should have rewarded points in regards to the addictiveness of the game itself.
Kyle both wins and loses this debate in my book. He wins for actually mentioning the true winner, and loses for not realizing it. As far as man-hours and lives wasted, Pokemon and Minecraft run a distant second and third to World of Warcraft.
10 year game of civ anyone? [http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/12/3081103/10-year-civilization-ii-game] But really, we all know WoW is the winner. People will not only play themself to death [http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2012/02/04/2003524636], but they will sell their children to do it. [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/chinese-parents-sell-children-gaming_n_910288.html] Can you really compare minecraft or pokemon to that?
Yeah, I spent a lot of time playing Pokemon. But I was able to turn it off and go do other things.
I literally failed my last required class for my degree because I was spending more time on building my minecraft skull-fortress than I was on my school work, thus I had to retake the class.... So yeah, my vote for Minecraft.
I literally failed my last required class for my degree because I was spending more time on building my minecraft skull-fortress than I was on my school work, thus I had to retake the class.... So yeah, my vote for Minecraft.
Good questionravenshrike said:
But I have to agree with Pokemon
I am 22 and over the course of my life I have spent/wasted well over 2000 hours on Pokemon game and that's ONLY counting the Color themed RPG's. If I counted all the spin-offs: Snap, Stadium series, Puzzle games, Pinball games, Dungeon Crawlers and Others My hours count would be even higher.
My God I've just made myself sad, I think I'm gonna go outside now or maybe read a book or something.
Chris owned this one, but Kyle could have really matched his point on the outside franchises and merchandise. Minecraft already features tons of merchandise, and is commonly played by some big names in today's media, such as Joel Zimmerman (deadmau5 for those that don't know). We even have Minecon to go along with it. To everyone that wants to bring WoW up as a better arguement, I submit you to view this:
http://gnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Minecraft-Paladin.jpg
That's a costume for Paladin Tier 2 "Judgement" as a Minecraft skin costume at Blizzcon 2011.
Major kudos to Dan for his analogy, as well.
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http://gnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Minecraft-Paladin.jpg
That's a costume for Paladin Tier 2 "Judgement" as a Minecraft skin costume at Blizzcon 2011.
Major kudos to Dan for his analogy, as well.
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Chris didn't deserve that last point because it wasn't a valid argument (though I do still have that song memorized from when I was 7). Tie ins are more a money sink rather than a time sink. I don't sit down and play a pokemon game and think, "you know what? I need to go watch hours and hours of the tv show."
Pokemon was never been THAT addicting for me. Beat the gyms, maybe catch the legendaries (except they became progressively harder to find, making me less likely to try to get them), but after that I was done. Grinding to 100 was pointless, catching every pokemon was pointless, and don't even get me started on the "sparkly" ones and breeding the best attributes... that turned the game into a complete pain in the ass.
Minecraft, on the other hand, there's always something more to do, making it the perfect time sink. It can be pretty tedious as well, but while Pokemon games get progressively more tedious the further you play and the more seriously you take it, Minecraft has a pretty flat tedium curve. Plus you can always take a break from endless mining to build something fun or explore new places, while in Pokemon, what are you going to do to take a break from grinding to 100? Catch a new pokemon and grind him to a decent level? Grinding grinding grinding = quitting, time for a new game. Mining mining mining = building, adventuring, or whatever-the-heck-I-feel-like-doing...ing.
Pokemon was never been THAT addicting for me. Beat the gyms, maybe catch the legendaries (except they became progressively harder to find, making me less likely to try to get them), but after that I was done. Grinding to 100 was pointless, catching every pokemon was pointless, and don't even get me started on the "sparkly" ones and breeding the best attributes... that turned the game into a complete pain in the ass.
Minecraft, on the other hand, there's always something more to do, making it the perfect time sink. It can be pretty tedious as well, but while Pokemon games get progressively more tedious the further you play and the more seriously you take it, Minecraft has a pretty flat tedium curve. Plus you can always take a break from endless mining to build something fun or explore new places, while in Pokemon, what are you going to do to take a break from grinding to 100? Catch a new pokemon and grind him to a decent level? Grinding grinding grinding = quitting, time for a new game. Mining mining mining = building, adventuring, or whatever-the-heck-I-feel-like-doing...ing.
I do love Pokemon but Minecraft is a better time sink, the mods, the randomly generated worlds and the creativity and doesn't really get boring. Pokemon gets boring when trying to capture everything and grinding them to level 100.