No Right Answer: What Should Michael Bay do?

[Lieju]

Leonardo was always a girl to me, and when we played turtles, I was Leo. Because I liked blue and I was the boss in our group.

So that's canon to my childhood.

Way to go with the 'women are weaker' comment, Chris. Really classy.

Also, aren't female turtles larger than the males?

Way to be mammal-centric, guys.

 

[Dan W]

The main thing that those involved with this movie need to do in my opinion is simply remember that it is a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie. Focus on the Turtles. You can reboot and go younger to match the new cartoon. You can go older and continue the canon of the first 4 movies. Extra Terrestrial elements or characters are fine. They've been in every version of TMNT since the original comics.

What I don't want is a repeat of Transformers where the titular characters, the ones the fans came to see, became minor characters or set dressing. Thus far, a lot of what I have heard and seen has been focused on Megan Fox/April and the cast playing the crew of Channel 6 News. I really have no interest in watching Channel 6 News: The Movie.

 

[RJ 17]

Michael Bay should make the Mass Effect 3 movie. (Not the first two, just 3)

It's right up his alley.
There's no deep substance, it's all explosions and shitty romance. He can go nuts with the special effects, and he can ignore all the shitty stuff that happened in the game and spend all his time on Earth jerking off his human military fetish.

It might actually turn out better then what Bioware gave us.

That's what he should work on after he finishes TMNT

Wow....a year and 6 months later and you're STILL pissed off at that game. Pretty firm grip on your hate there, my friend.

OT: The very fact aliens are involved with the origins of the turtles in Michael Bay's vision for them proves that he is not qualified to make this movie. What could/should he do to make a good TMNT movie? Let someone else make it. Apparently someone who can read the titles of series.

 

[Darth_Payn]

I'd rather Bay keep the elements from the old series that made it work. I can accept the mutagen having alien origins, but not the turtles or Splinter himself. And why turn one of them into a female? You already have April on the team! As for Shredder, leave him as Oroku Saki (or however it's spelled), Splinter's old nemesis from the old days. i'm still undecided about Shredder's henchmen. But it was funny when you put Ra's al-Ghul's face on that scientist's picture.

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Leonardo was always a girl to me, and when we played turtles, I was Leo. Because I liked blue and I was the boss in our group.

So that's canon to my childhood.

Way to go with the 'women are weaker' comment, Chris. Really classy.

Also, aren't female turtles larger than the males?

Way to be mammal-centric, guys.

So he's not only being sexist, but racist too. ;p

On a more serious note; I like the idea of making Leo a female in the next interpretation of the show/movie. The turtles don't have THAT much personality, but Leo really is just "the leader", and that doesn't say much. The whole group big sister thing would be kind of neat.

 

[mbarker]

They already had a female turtle, didn't work. Just keep the cannon the same and I'm happy.

 

[Riobux]

I was hoping for an episode where you discuss "What Should Michael Bay Do With His Life?". Quit vs take up a drug habit.

I was gonna say die, lol but no i'm not hooked on turtles. So i'm fine with him ruining this one. that and ruining turtles is gonna take some serious work.

I was going to say it was a three-way, with suicide as an option but figured it might be a bit dark.

 

[spoonybard.hahs]

Michael Bay isn't making it; he's producing it. Granted, even as a producer he's somewhere between suck and shit. The movie is being directed by Andre Nemec [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0509448/?ref_=tt_ov_dr]. All of which adds up to some serious hit and miss talent.

 

[CplDustov]

I liked the different format! I got so wrapped up in the discussion that I didn't even notice the lack of debate and points until where the final word would go. Actually freshens up the series a lot guys. Might be worth thinking alternating. See what the fans think.

 

[Lieju]

Leonardo was always a girl to me, and when we played turtles, I was Leo. Because I liked blue and I was the boss in our group.

So that's canon to my childhood.

Way to go with the 'women are weaker' comment, Chris. Really classy.

Also, aren't female turtles larger than the males?

Way to be mammal-centric, guys.

So he's not only being sexist, but racist too. ;p

On a more serious note; I like the idea of making Leo a female in the next interpretation of the show/movie. The turtles don't have THAT much personality, but Leo really is just "the leader", and that doesn't say much. The whole group big sister thing would be kind of neat.

I'm kinda scared for how'd they sexualize her, though. True, they have human DNA, but they still have SHELLS, so there should be no boobs.

But what are the chances of them putting in a girl and not give her cleavage?

 

[Imp_Emissary]

Leonardo was always a girl to me, and when we played turtles, I was Leo. Because I liked blue and I was the boss in our group.

So that's canon to my childhood.

Way to go with the 'women are weaker' comment, Chris. Really classy.

Also, aren't female turtles larger than the males?

Way to be mammal-centric, guys.

So he's not only being sexist, but racist too. ;p

On a more serious note; I like the idea of making Leo a female in the next interpretation of the show/movie. The turtles don't have THAT much personality, but Leo really is just "the leader", and that doesn't say much. The whole group big sister thing would be kind of neat.

I'm kinda scared for how'd they sexualize her, though. True, they have human DNA, but they still have SHELLS, so there should be no boobs.

But what are the chances of them putting in a girl and not give her cleavage?

Hmm...Well there is that one turtle Venus. How did she look?
*TO GOOGLE!*
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xp Oi. Shell boobs galore. You may have a point there.

Turtles aren't mammals you bunch of racist! ;p

 

[tarnim80]

as you guys said, Bay has done a couple of good movies in the past so I was willing to give him some benefit of a doubt. But then I heard that Megan Fox was gonna be April and all my hope of this being at least decent died. And then they cast a white guy as the Shredder and it double died.

And holy shit, at 1:44, that really is April O'Neil!

 

[Ishal]

I'm no turtle fan, but my heart goes out to people who do like Ninja Turtles.

Michael Bay... the childhood rape is overblown hyperbole... yes. But he is still not someone you should want directing a movie like this. He doesn't like the material and neither does Meghan Fox. People should really stop enabling these movies.

Now, I'm not saying people NEED to like the material they are working on, but it usually helps. Look at Joss Whedon and Marvel. You want people like that directing, I think. What you don't want is someone like Bay who has no interest in it or someone like JJ Abrams directing a movie about a franchise he "didn't get" and likely still doesn't get...

 

[Lieju]

But what are the chances of them putting in a girl and not give her cleavage?

If this was one of the many other directors working on something not targeting young boys or older fans? Slim.

I dunno, it's pretty common for anthopomorphic animals have boobs if they're female, even if they are reptiles or birds...

There is Venus in TMNT-canon who is the fifth turtle and their sister, and she had boobs in the comic:

Although I found this picture that looks way better chest-wise;

 

[Ferisar]

That was my point, that the chance of them including a female turtle and not giving her a boob shell (with potential for cleavage, natch) is slim for most directors, and much lower for Mr. Baysplosions.

But wouldn't one have to examine just how reptilian the actual turtles are? I mean, it's not all that unreasonable in the unreality of anthropomorphism, I feel like. Mind you, that doesn't make tits like double-T's (I don't think it even goes that far).

 

[Gammaj4]

You know what's hilarious? All those Ideas you were kicking around for things they could do to mix it up? Basically all the stuff they did in TMNT 2K3.

April's a technology person, instead of a reporter? Check.

With an initial connection to the villains? Check.

Shredder's a robot? Well, sort of, I mean, almost. Kinda check.

Mutagen comes from aliens? Check.

And you know what? I'm... okay with that. I would be totally fine if they just outright lifted the pilot arc of TMNT 2K3 to write their script.

 

[Scarim Coral]

What? No love for Casey Jones? Also for the whole rule Leo or Dom? No just no. If you wanted a female turtle, check out Venus from TMNT: The Next Mutation!

 

[Voulan]

Wait - you want Michael Bay to do cheesy romance between turtles who are ninjas? Do you understand how horrible it would be?!

I assumed this was discussing what would be a better career option for him. My suggestion is pyrotechnic.

 

[Fox12]

Well, there's an opening at the local McDonalds. I can't make any promises, but if I put a good word in with my friend who works there, I could get him a job at the grill.

 

[Mikeyfell]

Ok Ok, I realize it's kind of a "douchey" response. However, no deep substance? Did Thane and Mordin died during your suicide mission in Mass effect 2? Did your little brother played the entire Krogan/Geth/Quarian section of the game? Did you missed the entire exposition about earth getting its ass kicked?

Again, I'm sorry if the gif may be offensive, but it was needed.

Did you miss all that stuff?

It would be perfect for Michael Bay. Especially Thane's death, that was totally audience manipulation. At any point Shepard could have saved Thane, but didn't because the audience liked Thane, so the audience would assign meaning to a pointless struggle.
It was all so superficial and at odds with the greater struggle.
The Quarian story is the exact kind of thing Michael Bay would love to take the reigns on: a jingoistic primarily militant group of idiots taking on a nebulous and primarily passive threat. He'd cream his shorts over a story like that.





Bay and Bioware share a total lack of respect for the audience, and the source material (In the case of ME 3 at least)

Some kind of Pearl Harbor meats Transformers abomination would be a pretty faithful recreation of Mass Effect 3.
90% of ME3 was either soulless set pieces or bad dialog, just like how 90% of any given Michael Bay movie is soulless and poorly written.

It's a perfect fit.