No Single Player for Command and Conquer: Generals 2

[TheAmokz]

Good, now i don't need to get this and i can use my time to play some other games

 

[Gather]

Wait, C&C 4 doesn't have a story? Why are they using Bioware's for this again...

 

[sunsetspawn]

Oh, look, EA raping yet another series.

EA is publishing the game, not making it. They pay for it to be made and take a portion of the profit it turns.

Oh look, another person blindly hating EA because it's the trend.

Van Caneghem left Trion in 2009[11] and joined Electronic Arts where he heads the video game giant's Command & Conquer brand.[12] Command & Conquer was originally launched in 1995 and has sold 30 million units worldwide. Van Caneghem is responsible for extending the series online.[13]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Van_Caneghem

Uh, no, this guy has fuck-all to do with Bioware; he's an EA guy. EA OWNS Bioware, so they can throw the name on anything they see fit. The next Battlefield game could be produced by the same team that's made every other Battlefield game and it could absolutely have "Bioware" emblazoned on the box, and EA can regale us with anecdotes about how the Bioware team really got back to the roots of Battlefield.

Also, EA publishing the game makes them upper management to a studio, and the big bosses at EA are the uppermost management, and they answer to shareholders. The attitudes of these head muckity mucks trickles down to the studio like any other business. The problem is that with a corporation as big as EA, the head guy, John Riccitiello, is a business man with a business degree and he sees video games as a means to making money, whereas smaller, independent studios see money as a means to make video games (I just plagerized this thought from someone and I can't find the source for the life of me. If anyone knows it please let me, and this thread, know. My apologies)


Anyway, my sympathies to C&C fans.

 

[tsb247]

Well, here's to EA raping yet another childhood favorite. Srsly, RTS without single player? I only played RTS multi at a few LAN parties back in high school - I have no interest in playing online with a bunch of strangers.

I'd rather they make an old-fashioned C&C game that I need to pay for than a multiplayer fuckup that is name-only with what I once loved and free.

Skirmishes *grumbles* What's next, the C&C FPS?

You mean C&C Renegade?

I'm just sad that Tiberium was scrapped. Oh EA... Will you ever stop robbing us? I can't forgive them for scrubbing the release of this one:


NOTE: The mechs from Battlefield 2142 should look familiar now.

OT: I will be passing on this. You would think that EA would have learned from the train wreck that was C&C4. This is an idiotic idea, and it only serves to show that EA simply doesn't care about any C&C franchise at all. They just want to milk them for whatever money they can before they let them die a slow, painful death.

 

[Roxor]

Well, given it's probably not going to show up on Steam, I won't be playing it, anyway. Even if it did, and was not hideously expensive (as seems to be the norm for EA), I might be persuaded to try it if it had AI to play with.

 

[Old Father Eternity]

Blind hatred of EA because of the trend? ... Perhaps for some, others however have at least some ground to stand on, the ones who have been there since very beginning. I am not saying that change is bad but EA has taken a tad bit too much liberty starting with RA3 (again do not get me wrong, while it was not quite what most of us expected it was still a C&C game), they started to fiddle with the core nature of the franchise turning it to something else.

 

[Sandjube]

I can't say I particularly care. If I can AI skirmish, then cool, but I've never played those games - or any RTS game - for the campaign.

 

[danyy2009]

I would be outraged if it was any other game beside generals, if anyone remembers, the first one had a boring single player campaign, and everyone played it for the on-line/direct-lan.

 

[blackrave]

Building zillions of units and blasting foes is what Bioware believes this franchise is all about, and Bioware thinks a story campaign isn't integral to that experience. Multiplayer skirmish is what the developer intends to focus on, both co-op and competitive. This is all part of a plan to turn Command and Conquer into an e-sports series

Command and Conquer: Generals 2 will be the first to get the treatment, but other games in the series will follow. "We decided to choose Generals as the first set of games we build under the universe, but we'll be expanding after that, like Tiberium and Red Alert as well as some others as well

God have mercy on us all!

No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Inadequate screaming, yelling and sounds of attempting to pull own guts out]










Sorry got a little emotional there.

While I can accept such treatment for Generals (it wasn't real C&C title anyway), but knowledge that this BS will happen to Tiberium games too is a bit overwhelming :'(
They should concentrate their effort in making C&C4 instead.

Also, how ridiculous is that Bioware (developer that is best known for crafting good stories and characters) is making game without any story behind it?
BTW how many RTS have Bioware made at all?

 

[Awexsome]

I don't see this as a bad thing in itself for the generals series. I mean its storyline was utterly uninteresting as it was the most "real world" oriented out of the different versions.

It's confirmed no campaign but that doesn't mean skirmish games against bots is out, which is what gives me most of my miles in RTS games anyway.

However if they start gimping the Tiberium and Red Alert series of their story modes... I'll be a bit more angry. Small hinting that they maybe have plans to maybe do it is not enough for me to outright go around screaming that Red Alert and Tiberium games that haven't even begun development yet are already ruined.

Count me in on the "Oh look, people hating on EA because EA" crowd.

 

[natster43]

Well I only played the Command and Conquer games by myself in the skirmish mode against bots. So I won't be getting it if that isn't in it.

They should concentrate their effort in making C&C4 instead.

Didn't that already come out?

 

[Callate]

And the announcer says: EPIIIIIIC FAIL!-FAIL-FAIL-fail-fail...

So, EA started to screw up the series (by my reckoning) when they decided to "e-sports" C&C 3, speeding everything up and making defensive fortification all but meaningless against the almighty queued tank rush. And then they apparently doubled down on the idea on C&C 4, forcing the player to play support to either online players or computer AI.

After failing to learn any kind of lesson from that entry's critical drubbing, they're removing the single-player campaign, having handed the series off to a studio most known for their strength in plot and characterization. Which is somewhat like bringing an athlete into a dentist for knee surgery.

I would laugh harder if the collateral damage didn't involve series, and studios (and their ghosts) that I used to love.

 

[Johnson McGee]

Bioware general manager John Van Caneghem says that this is part of an overall strategy intended to "get back to the roots of what made Command & Conquer great."

And they intend to do this by effing with everything core to the franchise?

Everyone, do us RTS fans a favour and check out this much better game in the works: Planetary Annihilation [http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts]

 

[Spygon]

Hang on a second, I need to step out for a moment.

*steps outside. Cue incoherent and inaudible screaming and swearing*

I am going to go join him.Really EA give up you dont know anything about the c&c series sell it to someone with an idea on what to do with the franchise.

 

[Daymo]

You had a hand in RA2, arguably the best in the series, made Zero Hour and Kane's wrath, two of the last few proper expansion packs, so it's not like you don't know what you are doing EA when it comes to Command and Conquer. But then you make C&C 4 and now generals 2 without a campagin and it's like you are almost trying to destroy the series for whatever reason.

 

[loc978]

C&C has been like a faithful dog I've had since it was a puppy. We had good times and bad times through the years, but overall... I've loved this dog.

But it just contracted rabies, so it's time to dig a hole and go get my granddad's ol' rifle. I'm sure we all know what happens next.

 

[blackrave]

They should concentrate their effort in making C&C4 instead.

Didn't that already come out?

[sound of teeth grinding]
[takes double dose of happy pills]

When? I know that EA made game adaptation of Twilight book series, but I don't remember any C&C4

 

[Araethuiel]

From http://www.ea.com/uk/command-and-conquer-generals-2: "Thrilling Campaign?Command the war on terror in an electrifying single-player campaign. Experience the dramatic story from multiple perspectives?from heroic General to crazed terrorist?while engaging the enemy in pulse-pounding tactical combat."

If you don't read hype-ese, the key words are "campaign", "single player", "story"...
So... EA need to update their website then? Or is the article in error?

To be honest, I was sorta interested to see what they did with Generals' setting, but then I read this article... it just made me sad. C&C is dead. It has been since they announced disbanding the team after they completed C&C4, and this is... just using the C&C name to get the fans to play it. It might/might not be ftp, I don't care- EA WILL find a way to get money off you for it, regardless of "ftp"ness...

I'll be keeping one eye open to see what happens with single player. If this article holds true I won't be getting generals2... since I only ever played the C&C series for the single player campaign.

The thing that made me laugh was when they said they're going back to the roots by making it skirmish only (multiplayer is still skirmishing, just against other people)... the original didn't even HAVE skirmish so that's asfar from the roots as it's possible to be...