North Korea Takes Seth Rogen Complaint To The UN

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frobalt said:
As bat shit crazy as NK are, I've gotta agree with them on this one.

I mean, could you imagine the backlash there'd be if a country released a film about assassinating the president of the USA? The Americans would go crazy. It would definitely be banned in the USA at least.

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One thing to realise here is that it isn't a generic 'assassinate the leader of a foreign' nation film where either the leader is purely a made up character or both the country and leader are made up, it's a film where a real leader will be represented. Usually leaders of countries are made up characters, even when nothing really happens to them.


Regardless, I am curious to see what NK do when this is released, and I certainly don't like what the people of that country are treated like. I just think it's understandable that NK would be a bit pissy about this film.
While I agree that the US may react the same way, the reaction itself remains ludicrous. Nothing about this movie poses any credible threat to North Korea or Kim Jong-Un; you can't treat people like criminals based on their opinion of you. Everyone is entitled to their thoughts and their words, it's called freedom of speech.

And this is ignoring the innate hypocrisy of North Korea accusing anyone of being aggressive.
 

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Meh, nothing new here. For north korea the usual cycle of life consists of:
propaganda about their country
treatening US
Crying at UN for help
repeat

UN actually often helps in forms of "we will give you food not to starve if you stop your nuclear program". which they dont stop after already taking the food.

frobalt said:
As bat shit crazy as NK are, I've gotta agree with them on this one.

I mean, could you imagine the backlash there'd be if a country released a film about assassinating the president of the USA? The Americans would go crazy. It would definitely be banned in the USA at least.
Demagogue said:
I love this double standard people are taking with this. As others have said in past threads, if someone was to make a movie like this about the USA, there would be an uproar, but because it is occuring to NK its 'fine'.
you mean, like the hundreds of mindless action movies and comedies in the 90s? oh yes it was definitely these movies that caused 9/11! such terrorism. In fact, there was a movie last year whose whole premise is attacking the white house
White House Down (2013) [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2334879/reference]

sleeky01 said:
Apparently so:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158950/Fury-HBOs-Game-Thrones-shows-President-George-W-Bushs-decapitated-head-impaled-STAKE.html

Sure it was accidental, but there was enough outcry to have it deleted.
it wasnt banned, it wasnt intentional and i find it strnage to begin with just how the hell somone though that was bush to begin with. i mean the hair alone make it look completely different.

the biggest outcry was few silly politicians crying about "boycotting" and whatnot.
 

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frobalt said:
I mean, could you imagine the backlash there'd be if a country released a film about assassinating the president of the USA? The Americans would go crazy. It would definitely be banned in the USA at least.
As much as I expect tantrums would be held, I cannot see it actually being banned, and if the US took such a thing to the UN I would ridicule my country as mercilessly as North Korea's getting.
 

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Demagogue said:
I love this double standard people are taking with this. As others have said in past threads, if someone was to make a movie like this about the USA, there would be an uproar, but because it is occuring to NK its 'fine'.

I'm not going to watch the movie regardless because I think Seth Rogan's brand of humor is idiotic. However, it is a movie that should have never been made.
I don't really see the double standard you're talking about here. North Korea has made quite a few videos about vividly nuking the US, and there was no formal envoy complaint or request for apology. And to that point, NK actually sponsers those videos as opposed to this these private ones. I'm not saying no one in the US complains, but no one in the US is saying that they shouldn't have the right to make it.

So the US believes in free speech perhaps sometimes to a detriment, in this case the only imbalance is that Seth Rogan can afford to make a much bigger movie then Kim Jung-Un apparently.

But you have every right to hate his humor and maybe it shouldn't have been made, but what is being asserted by them is that Rogan shouldn't have the right or legal framework in which to make this picture. I think it takes a lot of balls to directly insult a world leader so directly, but it's not an act of war, it's not an act of terror, it isn't violence and in context it probably isn't even a threat.

Kim Jung-Un, is just an angry fat kid who really takes himself even more seriously then his predecessors.
 

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frobalt said:
One thing to realise here is that it isn't a generic 'assassinate the leader of a foreign' nation film where either the leader is purely a made up character or both the country and leader are made up, it's a film where a real leader will be represented. Usually leaders of countries are made up characters, even when nothing really happens to them.
I don't remember this being treated like an unusual case.

 

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Demagogue said:
I love this double standard people are taking with this. As others have said in past threads, if someone was to make a movie like this about the USA, there would be an uproar, but because it is occuring to NK its 'fine'.

I'm not going to watch the movie regardless because I think Seth Rogan's brand of humor is idiotic. However, it is a movie that should have never been made.
I think the issue is more one of 'err, is this really a war-worthy thing?' - I'm pretty sure the US wouldn't threaten war if a country produced a movie where someone shot the president. I'm sure Obama wouldn't be too happy about it, and there'd be people angry enough to threaten things like war, but the nation of the USA wouldn't say 'let there be war!'.

But hey, I'm just a Brit, so what do I know.
 

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sleeky01 said:
Lieju said:
frobalt said:
As bat shit crazy as NK are, I've gotta agree with them on this one.

I mean, could you imagine the backlash there'd be if a country released a film about assassinating the president of the USA? The Americans would go crazy. It would definitely be banned in the USA at least.
I'm sure there would be people in the US who'd go crazy, but would it be banned?
Apparently so:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2158950/Fury-HBOs-Game-Thrones-shows-President-George-W-Bushs-decapitated-head-impaled-STAKE.html

Sure it was accidental, but there was enough outcry to have it deleted.
That's not really it getting 'banned'. It was people getting upset over something that wasn't a political (or any kind) of a statement in the first place, and then the thing being removed from the future DVD releases.

Which is silly, yes, but it's similar to that case where the game designers removed the word 'Allah' from a multiplayer map. It wasn't something they meant to put it, but when people complained they'd rather change it since it wasn't like they were making a statement of any kind in the first place.
 

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Robert Marrs said:
I still bet on them not killing him at all and just finding out he is a pretty cool dude. Its not too much of a long shot for a Seth Rogen movie. They will buddy up with him in some manner like teaming up to take down the North Korean government. Calling it right now.
Heh, maybe they're even friends with him and asked him to publicize the movie?
 

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So, basically no one ever saw Team America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esel1TBg_k0&feature=player_detailpage#t=125
 

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Can't be arsed to go through 4 pages worth of comments. But I'm curious to know, has anyone mentioned or even remembered Team America World Police? I mean jesus christ, that was offensive. Sure it was by South Park's Creators and you /kind of come to expect that kind of behavior from them/ but seriously. How could that fly, but this doesn't.?
 

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Ninmecu said:
Can't be arsed to go through 4 pages worth of comments. But I'm curious to know, has anyone mentioned or even remembered Team America World Police? I mean jesus christ, that was offensive. Sure it was by South Park's Creators and you /kind of come to expect that kind of behavior from them/ but seriously. How could that fly, but this doesn't.?
Because in Team America, the leader of North Korea is actually a potent villain right up to the end. Also because his dad got to kill off Hans Blix I think.
 

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Calbeck said:
Ninmecu said:
Can't be arsed to go through 4 pages worth of comments. But I'm curious to know, has anyone mentioned or even remembered Team America World Police? I mean jesus christ, that was offensive. Sure it was by South Park's Creators and you /kind of come to expect that kind of behavior from them/ but seriously. How could that fly, but this doesn't.?
Because in Team America, the leader of North Korea is actually a potent villain right up to the end. Also because his dad got to kill off Hans Blix I think.
He was also Kim-Jong-Ill IIRC, who was the leader of NK before his son. Again, if I recall correctly. So, yeah. I don't see how they can say "oh that ones fine, we like the south park guys(or whatever they'd say.) but this one is overstepping a line that I invented because reasons."
 

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Well, I do see a point with depicting the assassination attempt of an incumbent head of state could be responsible for sponsoring such actions in real life.
I mean, what if the movie was about killing Pope Francis? The Vatican would be up in arms. What if it was of Obama, well, the reaction would be less dramatic, but many Americans would get their panties in a bunch.
Besides that, yeah, that is North Korea over reacting again
 

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frobalt said:
As bat shit crazy as NK are, I've gotta agree with them on this one.

I mean, could you imagine the backlash there'd be if a country released a film about assassinating the president of the USA? The Americans would go crazy. It would definitely be banned in the USA at least.
After a quick Google Search to see if that was true, I found this British Film where George W. Bush (The one Everyone hates) is assassinated. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President_(2006_film)] Sure, it's more dramatic then this film (And it's apparently not very good), but we never sued the Brits for making it, and it's currently available on Hulu Plus to watch.

OT: Yeah, North Korea is acting childish, and if it tried to do anything other then "Sue the US" or Go to the UN to complain, everyone would retaliate against it.
 

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chikusho said:
So, basically no one ever saw Team America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esel1TBg_k0&feature=player_detailpage#t=125
I'm starting to wonder, though several us have brought it up.
 

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I guess we should give them credit for trying something other than threats and temper tantrums for a change.
 

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And yet Team America didn't offend them? Kay.


Go home North Korea, keep your crazy in your borders as you desire or USA will likely introduce some 'freedom'.
You know they're itching for it. So don't give them a opening.