Norwegian Mass Murderer Diagnosed With Paranoid Schizophrenia

[Simalacrum]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

 

[DoanDavid]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

Meh... No need to feed the troll. Either that or he is one of them Americans who thinks the word America is synonymous with the word universe and that they are the greatest nation ever.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

Meh... No need to feed the troll. Either that or he is one of them Americans who thinks the word America is synonymous with the word universe and that they are the greatest nation ever.

I'm not trolling, I know America sucks in many regards but this is one issue where we are ahead of many nations. Want me to list all the ways in which we suck so you know I'm not one of those "America is the greatest" types?

 

[FamoFunk]

Whatever the reason, murdering 77 people and wounding 151 isn't right.

This Man needs to be locked up for life, no way should he see ground and life beyond prison walls again.

 

[DoanDavid]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

Meh... No need to feed the troll. Either that or he is one of them Americans who thinks the word America is synonymous with the word universe and that they are the greatest nation ever.

I'm not trolling, I know America sucks in many regards but this is one issue where we are ahead of many nations. Want me to list all the ways in which we suck so you know I'm not one of those "America is the greatest" types?

How the hell is "death sentence" being way ahead? Killing another human being is not going to change anything. We had the death sentence in Europe, but we abolished it after WWII because we no longer wanted to use death as a punishment.

 

[Xan Krieger]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

Meh... No need to feed the troll. Either that or he is one of them Americans who thinks the word America is synonymous with the word universe and that they are the greatest nation ever.

I'm not trolling, I know America sucks in many regards but this is one issue where we are ahead of many nations. Want me to list all the ways in which we suck so you know I'm not one of those "America is the greatest" types?

How the hell is "death sentence" being way ahead? Killing another human being is not going to change anything. We had the death sentence in Europe, but we abolished it after WWII because we no longer wanted to use death as a punishment.

Even if it doesn't stop crime why does this guy deserve to live? With the amount of proof they have there'll be no appeals and the trial will be quick so an execution would save the taxpayers money. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for this guy to live somewhere and get fed?

 

[DoanDavid]

Seemed appropriate.

Just hang him and be done with it, jeez.

The death sentence is considered barbaric in most European countries.

Sad but true, Europe for the most part has yet to catch up to America when it comes to the death penalty.

"catch up"? Maybe I should have used a different word other than "barbaric": "primitive", "old fashioned", or "savage" may also suitably replace the word "barbaric"

Did I mention that I'm also European?

Doesn't matter which word you use, Europe is still behind the US on this issue.

It really isn't... if anything its many many miles ahead of the US.

Miles ahead? How is being worse off suppossedly ahead?

Meh... No need to feed the troll. Either that or he is one of them Americans who thinks the word America is synonymous with the word universe and that they are the greatest nation ever.

I'm not trolling, I know America sucks in many regards but this is one issue where we are ahead of many nations. Want me to list all the ways in which we suck so you know I'm not one of those "America is the greatest" types?

How the hell is "death sentence" being way ahead? Killing another human being is not going to change anything. We had the death sentence in Europe, but we abolished it after WWII because we no longer wanted to use death as a punishment.

Even if it doesn't stop crime why does this guy deserve to live? With the amount of proof they have there'll be no appeals and the trial will be quick so an execution would save the taxpayers money. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for this guy to live somewhere and get fed?

Because it cost more to have someone executed than it will cost to keep them alive. In fact, it cost about ten times as much money to have someone executed than to keep them imprisoned, and I'm talking about the US now. there are lot of articles about that. Here's one I found with a quick Google search. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-07-exepensive-to-execute_N.htm

Just because he has killed doesn't give us the right to kill. That's one of the core values in Europe. We don't punish crime eye for an eye. Even so, there is hardly any chance at all that he will ever be set free, so he'll be spending the rest of his days inside either a prison or a mental hospital.

 

[BenzSmoke]

So the crazy guy that shot all those people was crazy!? NO WAY! /sarcasm

I think they should just through him in jail. I don't care if he is crazy! He murdered people! Better him be crazy in solitary confinement than anywhere else.

 

[MammothBlade]

He deserves to live because no matter what else, he is a human being with the rights and privilieges that implies. As soon as there starts to be exceptions to human rights (oh, he's a BAD man. He doesn't deserve to be protected by the rights the rest of us has.) then there's an opening towards adding more and more categories to the list of people who don't deserve the treatment human rights demand.

More importantly... it means he wins. If we start becoming a more Americanized society as a result of this, then he wins. He manages to make us worse people and our country a worse place to live. The only way to combat people like this is to become even better. To reach towards even greater heights of ethical, political and judicial standards. And yes, that applies to him and his ilk as well.

We already protect society from people like him by throwing his ass in jail or into mental institutions where he can get humane treatment as is his right. We protect society by reforming those who can be reformed, instead of turning them even worse through a shitty justice system. We protect our society by creating a society where people have less and less reason to become criminals or terrorists.

I am a Norwegian and I am DAMN proud of the fact that he will get treatment, isolation from society and be dealt with in a humane and ethically responsible manner.

Unlike the way certain other nations deal with both their own citizens and foreigners for far lesser offenses.

I don't believe that simply being human demands that everyone is entitled to absolutely inalienable rights. You can forfeit them by certain actions - in this case, being an evil mass murderer. He forfeits his right to life.

This man was conscious enough of the fact that he was killing dozens of people, not imagined demons. He had delusions of grandeur, but he knew what he was trying to do. Even those with schizophrenia and other psychoses can make some conscious moral decisions, and know that it's bad to kill innocents, which is why the vast majority of schizophrenics don't go and murder people. No doubt, it's going to further increase the public stigma and perception of danger surrounding mental illness. My guess is he would have done this even if he wasn't severely deluded -- he did it because he was evil, not because he was mentally ill. His illness acted as an enabler, not the source of his intentions.

It's all nice and fluffy to take that liberal moral high ground, but you don't achieve justice that way. It has to be achieved with the sword in this case. Being a morally weak and unjust society is nothing to be proud of.

 

[MammothBlade]

Double post >_<