Hmm, I'm positive there was another one of these threads less than a week ago. Oh well, I'll say the same thing I said in that one.
Fucking this.
Fucking this.
Nostalgia Goggles
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Wow I had the same problem with underwater levels (still kinda do) I think what scared me was the thought that the giant sea monsters could come at me from anywhere.Matthew94 said:
Also I loved that train level in Star Fox, I also liked that level with the big dogfight, the one with that guy Bill (I think.)
Nostalgia has no place in my life. I do not look at the past, 80s or 90s as some magical times where everything was better. Every era has some good, every era has some bad. The majority of things, however, are mediocre. It is just as unfair to call out the 90s for having power rangers just because you hate the show as it would to call the 80s awesome because of Transformers.
The reason why people think modern pop culture is worse is simple. We are living in it. That's it.
The reason why people think modern pop culture is worse is simple. We are living in it. That's it.
I have four main ones. I'll do the opinion on whether they're good or bad too.
Final Fantasy VIII - No matter what flaws people tell me it has, I can never possibly have any bad feelings whatsoever towards this game. It will always be flawless to me. This game is my freakin' childhood incarnate. It's been my favourite game ever since I was about 4. I love you, FF8. And I'm sorry I allowed your discs to not work anymore. You shouldn't have wiped my save.
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus - I think this was the second game I ever owned. I love it. I very recently managed to play this again, my first time since I was like 6 or something, and I can say I do think it's fantastic even if I wasn't wearing nostalgia goggles. There's a ridiculously dramatic change in atmosphere between disc 1 and 2, though. Not that it's a bad thing. Or a good thing. Just a thing. But if you like platformers I can't express how much you need to play it if you haven't already. Even if you didn't like Abe's Oddysee. I didn't like it either, but I friggin' love this game. And that last level. Good god. That last level. If you can find anything more tense in a game you're lying to yourself.
Monkey Hero - Still nostalgic as hell to me, but I now hate it for what it is. A shameless ripoff of Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, in more ways than I can possibly fit into a single paragraph. But I can't help but love it anyway. This was my second-favourite game when I was a kid. And ripoff or not, it's still pretty good. Because Link to the Past is too.
Croc 2 - This was my favourite game before I got FFVIII. Good god, I loved this game. When I played it a month or so ago the nostalgia was enough to kill me. But without the nostalgia goggles the game is meh. It's interesting, and I suppose it's pretty fun, but those controls. Those goddamn controls. Never before has the simple act of jumping from one platform to another been this hard. The controls are WAY better than the first game's, but that still isn't saying much. And the game as a whole is ridiculously hard. Especially considering it's a kid's game.
Edit: Oh, special mention to Alien Trilogy. The first game I ever owned. It's a good ol' Doom-era shooter, so of course it's good. It's actually also fairly scary considering its an FPS. And a really old one at that. It's not exactly terrifying, but you'll be surprised if you play it.
Final Fantasy VIII - No matter what flaws people tell me it has, I can never possibly have any bad feelings whatsoever towards this game. It will always be flawless to me. This game is my freakin' childhood incarnate. It's been my favourite game ever since I was about 4. I love you, FF8. And I'm sorry I allowed your discs to not work anymore. You shouldn't have wiped my save.
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus - I think this was the second game I ever owned. I love it. I very recently managed to play this again, my first time since I was like 6 or something, and I can say I do think it's fantastic even if I wasn't wearing nostalgia goggles. There's a ridiculously dramatic change in atmosphere between disc 1 and 2, though. Not that it's a bad thing. Or a good thing. Just a thing. But if you like platformers I can't express how much you need to play it if you haven't already. Even if you didn't like Abe's Oddysee. I didn't like it either, but I friggin' love this game. And that last level. Good god. That last level. If you can find anything more tense in a game you're lying to yourself.
Monkey Hero - Still nostalgic as hell to me, but I now hate it for what it is. A shameless ripoff of Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, in more ways than I can possibly fit into a single paragraph. But I can't help but love it anyway. This was my second-favourite game when I was a kid. And ripoff or not, it's still pretty good. Because Link to the Past is too.
Croc 2 - This was my favourite game before I got FFVIII. Good god, I loved this game. When I played it a month or so ago the nostalgia was enough to kill me. But without the nostalgia goggles the game is meh. It's interesting, and I suppose it's pretty fun, but those controls. Those goddamn controls. Never before has the simple act of jumping from one platform to another been this hard. The controls are WAY better than the first game's, but that still isn't saying much. And the game as a whole is ridiculously hard. Especially considering it's a kid's game.
Edit: Oh, special mention to Alien Trilogy. The first game I ever owned. It's a good ol' Doom-era shooter, so of course it's good. It's actually also fairly scary considering its an FPS. And a really old one at that. It's not exactly terrifying, but you'll be surprised if you play it.
The most nostalgic title for me is probably one that isn't nostlagic for many other people, mainly because it's a "new" game compared to what other people may suggest. It's a PS2 Action RPG named Dark Cloud released in 2001 by Level 5.
What's especially odd is that I didn't really properly play the game, it was my Mother. When I was young and couldn't play games properly I used to spend my time watching my Mum play games. The one that always sticks in my memory above any other is Dark Cloud. Hearing the main theme [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gJ3qHyqCa4] invokes much nostalgia for me. I also specifically remember being freaked out every time my Mum failed to complete a quick-time event and the main character ended up having his face... Licked/Eaten by a Snake Boss. Also the Swordfish Weapon for one of the playable characters. Odd what sticks in your head.
Years later I played the game and had the time of my life. In fact as I write this I have the urge to play the game, I would if my PS2 hadn't broken a while ago. I still believe it's a good game.
The first game I had was Pokemon Yellow, in fact I think I played it before the above happened... But for some odd reason it doesn't stick into my memory as much. Except for me trying to forcefeed that damn Pikachu the Thunderstone.
What's especially odd is that I didn't really properly play the game, it was my Mother. When I was young and couldn't play games properly I used to spend my time watching my Mum play games. The one that always sticks in my memory above any other is Dark Cloud. Hearing the main theme [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gJ3qHyqCa4] invokes much nostalgia for me. I also specifically remember being freaked out every time my Mum failed to complete a quick-time event and the main character ended up having his face... Licked/Eaten by a Snake Boss. Also the Swordfish Weapon for one of the playable characters. Odd what sticks in your head.
Years later I played the game and had the time of my life. In fact as I write this I have the urge to play the game, I would if my PS2 hadn't broken a while ago. I still believe it's a good game.
The first game I had was Pokemon Yellow, in fact I think I played it before the above happened... But for some odd reason it doesn't stick into my memory as much. Except for me trying to forcefeed that damn Pikachu the Thunderstone.
This. It's one of the earliest games I remember and I must have spent hundreds of hours on this along with Yellow, Gold and Silver (yes, I actually had both, on top of getting Crystal the following year) and when I was in sixth form, some friends of mine managed to get some kind of emulated version of Red and Crystal on our phones, so I got a chance to relive that and see if it holds up. And while it was very nostalgic to get back into those games, I do still think holds up (I mean it must do since they haven't changed much over 10 years down the line) it's a very simple, yet very engrossing and addictive game that rewards you for your persistence (read: grinding the absolute shit out of your monsters/wandering in fields for hours trying to catch super special awesome Pokemon X) and exploration and it just generally makes me happy to play. :3 I just wish I knew how to get them to work on my current phone. >.> As for gaming nostalgia/nostalgia in general, it's certainly a pleasant sensation, but I don't think I'm swayed by it. I won't hesitate to admit that a lot of things I liked as a kid were absolute fucking garbage and I can recognise flaws in things that I like and will certainly notice more cracks if it's been years since my last encounter and at the end of the day, if I'm really not enjoying something, then I don't see the point in championing it just because I liked it as a kid. One thing to consider I suppose, is that there might be instances where people are willing to concede that while XYZ might not be a great game/film/album/whatever, it's a game that means a lot to them.bannanaky said:
there is still nothing better at ensnaring my attention for weeks on end. from that first battle with blue all the way through to catching mewtwo 50+ hour nostalgia trip of childhood joy
I think one of the main reasons that Ocarina of Time is constantly placed atop peoples' best game ever lists is because of nostalgia. Mind you, it is a pretty darn good game, I just don't think it deserves to be called the best.
That is a title reserved for Majora's Mask.
That is a title reserved for Majora's Mask.
Morrowind always seems to invoke nostalgia goggles, with many people saying it's the best Elder Scrolls game. But it really isn't. The combat is awful and button-mashy, the graphics are eye-searing (although that can be forgiven for a 2002 game), and even moving around is tedious thanks to the snail-like walk speed. The NPCs are even worse than Oblivion, with pretty much every one having exactly the same dialogue. And don't get me started on the vague quest directions.
Wish I could get ahold of a ram cartridge so I could actually play that golden Majura's Mask Cartridge. There is a reason why that particular game is probably as good as people say, and it's the fact that the N64 alone can't run the bleedin' thing without an add on XD On that note though, it'll be interesting to see if the game also gets a 3DS remake. I feel I'd re-purchase the 3DS for that journey alone.Ljs1121 said:I think one of the main reasons that Ocarina of Time is constantly placed atop peoples' best game ever lists is because of nostalgia. Mind you, it is a pretty darn good game, I just don't think it deserves to be called the best.
That is a title reserved for Majora's Mask.
For me it is the timesplitters trilogy... massively this! Oh, and Goldeneye for the same reasons...
Basically, modern fps's are so much more about strategy and good playing that I forgot how fustrating bots could be! In timesplitters there is no stealth, no silent kills and no peeking round corners, there is only running shooting and death!
I always forget this when starting the ol' ps2 up, and now I suck at those games tenfold! :/
Basically, modern fps's are so much more about strategy and good playing that I forgot how fustrating bots could be! In timesplitters there is no stealth, no silent kills and no peeking round corners, there is only running shooting and death!
I always forget this when starting the ol' ps2 up, and now I suck at those games tenfold! :/
Primal on the PS2 suffers most from nostalgia goggles for me. It was a great game when it came out, but it has aged really poorly. One of those that it's better to just live with the memories than replay
I got that game recently... It's making me chuckle a little bit that's for sure, but over all the game isn't really doing that much for me. I think without the humour the game would fall apart.D-Class 198482 said:
I think I am not allowed to call out "nostalgia" yet, seeing as I mostly played PS2 and PSP games.
BUt some of my favourites of all time:
Burnout Revenge (PS2)
Resident Evil 4 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3 (Ps2)
Spiderman 2
Tiger and Dragon
Black
GTA San Andreas
Dragon Quest VIII
FFXII
gonna play some PS2 now...
BUt some of my favourites of all time:
Burnout Revenge (PS2)
Resident Evil 4 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3 (Ps2)
Spiderman 2
Tiger and Dragon
Black
GTA San Andreas
Dragon Quest VIII
FFXII
gonna play some PS2 now...
Nostalgia isn't necessarily time based, it's more of an association with the memories you have of playing that game, and often it's a feeling which obscures an opinion which would otherwise be formed more fairly on a competing product. Like let's say, Banjo Kazooie versus mario 64, both similar concepts, but one definitely came out on top when the nostalgia is removed.Calibanbutcher said:
This game alone showed how bad ass Boba Fett was, flying into arenas on his own. Man I am nostalgic about this, forcing people into the Sarlacc Pitt. This along with Jedi Power Battles - but that game only because I had a cheat disc that gave you the feeling of actually being a jedi. Without it that game was insanely difficult for me.bl4ckh4wk64 said:Hmm, I'm positive there was another one of these threads less than a week ago. Oh well, I'll say the same thing I said in that one.
Fucking this.
Still, I fear to tread down nostalgia road as I don't think I could handle the games now. Battlefront 2 is about as far back as I allow myself.
You can't judge an opinion on the grounds of wrong or right. What may be great to you, will not be great for some. I find it hard to get along with narrow minds; this person is fine to say he didn't like Morrowind just as you're fine to think the opposite. Always remember that at the end of the day, an opinion can never be fact.Metalhandkerchief said:So many games... So many...
But the answer I feel like giving today is:
Bad Mojo. The adventure game where you play as a roach. Still one of my favorite games. I had been gaming for about 3 years when this came out, in 1996. The nineties were great on the Mac. (This one has a Windows version too)
You're wrong. Morrowind is the best TES game simply because it rates higher for the reasons that TES fans care about. Combat is not one of them. For example, Morrowind still has the best art direction of anything in the series, with only Shivering Isles, an Oblivion expansion to come close (because essentially, they tried making it the same look)Jimmy T. Malice said:
Morrowind had the most exploration content, the most hidden mysteries to stumble upon, the very very very best music of the entirety of gaming history except Age of Conan, and it had a vibrant conflict going on between ashlanders, their gods and the civilized people of Vvardenfell that no TES game has come close to. Oblivions' and Skyrim's plots were "hurr durr" in comparison.
Morrowind is simply the most complete Elder Scrolls experience. And you have to have played it at the time it came out to truly appreciate it, because at the time, it's graphics were the best in the business. That has nothing to do with nostalgia, that is the brain's reaction to inversion of technology, it simply can not fathom visual enjoyment from aged realism-based graphics when you have experienced better, newer products beforehand.
And the move speed is upgradeable. Level up athleticism. How? By running. That is another part that made Morrowind amazing. It was the first game to set aside mob kill XP in favor of a better system, that makes sense. Do stuff and get better at it by doing. Simple and clever, and much better than anything before it.
In my opinion the entire elder scrolls series is over rated, and a little lack luster at best. To me, games should be well thought out in every single way, and there's something about Bethesda games that just don't feel thought through enough. Sure there's something to do, but there's never incentive to do it... which would be okay if it were minecraft, a game which pushes the players imagination, but the elder scrolls series need to paint a much better world and goals. Why is that hill there? Why must I climb it? Some may argue to Elder Scrolls manage to give the player these questions, but to me there is no clear enticement... only pretence.
As I said though, this is merely an opinion, as is anyone elses thoughts. In the grand scheme of things, it counts for very little.