Not Wanting a Girlfriend is a "Serious Illness"

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trophykiller

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Frankly, I've found dating to be a waste of time, and ignoring it has made my life so much better than my lady-obsessed peers.

Also, is it wrong for a man to friend-zone a girl?
 

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Well I've been married for the last 4 years, and I've got to say that if that were ever to end, I'd probably stick to that particular illness for the rest of my life.

EDIT: But I might get a pass on the issue since I've already contributed a child to Japan's next generation...
 

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trophykiller said:
Frankly, I've found dating to be a waste of time, and ignoring it has made my life so much better than my lady-obsessed peers.

Also, is it wrong for a man to friend-zone a girl?
It`s not wrong, and not unheard of. I just hope that the girl y9u friend-zoned won`t take it the wrong way. Some just like to jump to a conclusion, that if she got "rejected" then the guy is gay, or a pervert of some kind. Sad but true.
 

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Gorumgol said:
Woodsey said:
I can already see this slipping into a classic Escapist Relationship Thread.
AKA gamer douchebags whining about women not lining up to suck their cocks on command.
Now now, let's not forget how every other guy going out with a girl is a retarded ape who is barely intelligent enough to grunt, and how the anti-social misogynist whining about him is so much better for her.
 

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The title is completely misleading. He said that if you actually want a gf but your self-esteem is so low that you say you can't get one and try to pretend it's ok, that is an illness. Calling it an illness might be going too far, but it's certainly not a good thing.
 

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Woodsey said:
Gorumgol said:
Woodsey said:
I can already see this slipping into a classic Escapist Relationship Thread.
AKA gamer douchebags whining about women not lining up to suck their cocks on command.
Now now, let's not forget how every other guy going out with a girl is a retarded ape who is barely intelligent enough to grunt, and how the anti-social misogynist whining about him is so much better for her.
Yeah this is so weird. I am not by any means a feminist but this whole weird relationships were people seem to act as if girls as these stuck up idiotic whores but not to them and that's bad is well hard to comprehend. i mean subsititute the word girl for black or whatever and the sentiment of steotyping would not be okay.

As for the Herr Doktor mentioned in the articule, I think leaving the societal stuff aside, yeah you should try to have a rela girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever. I know asexuality get's brought up but I don't think it is anywhere near as prevalent as people make it out to be. I'm not saying you should be forced to have a partner but it seems like people are engaging in a mssive self decpetion and I don't know but it seems well kinda sad, like selling yourself short.
 

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Pfft you don't need to be a douchebag to get girls. Anybody who thinks that is a loser who doesn't know how women work.

Exert power and confidence, be aggressive and competitive and be yourself. They only go for douchebags because they're usually people who do all of these things.
 

Rect Pola

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Perhaps instead of demonizing their vast entertainment empires they need to use them as a starting point in sharing interests. An Okaku mixer of sorts.
 

Soviet Steve

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So unless you want a girlfriend you're ill? What does this mean for women? Are we going to see neo-Samurais enforcing mandatory lesbianism? What is this I don't even
 

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spartan231490 said:
The title is completely misleading. He said that if you actually want a gf but your self-esteem is so low that you say you can't get one and try to pretend it's ok, that is an illness. Calling it an illness might be going too far, but it's certainly not a good thing.
Yeah, I think the title of this thread is misleading, although "low self-esteem" is mislabelled in the article, so all's fair I guess.


And if this thread is anything to judge by, many of my fellow escapists look at relationships way wrong. A good chunk of replies in this thread are basically "I don't want someone mooching off me". Well if they are mooching off you, it isn't a real relationship. Ideally both you and your partner would be contributing to the relationship in some way. I can see a lot of people don't want to have kids, understandable really, they are expensive, but having a partner with their own job and pooling your resources give you a net gain, not a net loss.
 

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Ok, I'm not claiming to be an expert on this or anything but I'd heard that between a 6 day school week, work and extra curricula stuff, teenagers don't have time for much of anything else.
 

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I imagine that low self-esteem where you convince yourself you don't want a girlfriend when you do is certainly unhealthy. It's an idea with some merit at least though obviously, like most psychology, it's pure speculation as to how often this is the case.

Besides, I'm sure they're only saying "serious illness" to big up their research...
 

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This post made my day.

Also, Keima Katsuragi [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=18463] from The World God Only Knows [http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=7568] is like the typical guy described in the OP's post and he still gets plenty of girls. Thus I refute your logic! Hah!
 

Benny Blanco

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OK, so some thoughts:

1. This is very hetero-normative. As someone said, what about gay guys?
2. In Japan, they banned birth control pills as the effects of the hormones in drinking water are thought to make guys less... well, male. Apparently that didn't work as planned. UK & US have birth control pills readily available and the birth rate is fine.
3. Just maybe it's a good thing that the population of a country with one of the highest densities in the world (no.38 but mountainous therefore less inhabitable land) is in decline...

CheeseSandwichCake said:
Pfft you don't need to be a douchebag to get girls. Anybody who thinks that is a loser who doesn't know how women work.

Exert power and confidence, be aggressive and competitive and be yourself. They only go for douchebags because they're usually people who do all of these things.
I'd say "assertive" is better than "aggressive" but pretty much this, yeah. Although most douchebags fail at being themselves: their try-hard nature is one of the things that makes them douchey.

In fact, as I think I mentioned on an old thread, try being the best possible version of yourself. It's good for you and everyone around you.
 

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RonHiler said:
Given that the population of the planet just hit 7 billion, and we can't sustain that many people, I can't help but wonder why this isn't considered a good thing.
Half of a population being old while in African countries the majority of the population will die before they hit 40 is not good at all.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
And, god forbid I bring this into it, but are girls to have any say in this?
I agree. If all somebody has to do is watch video of the streets in cities of Japan to see that there are just as many girls that are caught up in all the technology and whatnot. And even if they are not, what are they doing when such guys are out in the world doing things like shopping for things they want or getting food, are they staring at these guys flipping their lips with their pointer finger and going, "duuhhh, what am I to do."

I really feel there is still too much of an expectation that a guy be the initiator of a relationship. In a lot of cases, it is still like that in the US as well.

I mean some guys, even me, can be oblivious to the fact that a girl might like him and be open for a relationship. In college, I had several girls that were friends, or at least we had a talking rapport, but if they were interested in a relationship, I wouldn't have known. I even think some girls think that talking to a guy is enough, but it isn't.

Some guys are different, I'm one of those that is different, I rather people initiate things with me. I'm a horrible initiator.