Notch Gives $3 Million to Mojang Employees

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Notch Gives $3 Million to Mojang Employees



Persson shares his good fortune with the rest of his team.

Minecraft is a big deal. From the day I first heard PayPal had suspended Markus "Notch" Persson's account because he earned too much money too fast [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103385-PayPal-Freezes-750K-in-MineCraft-Devs-Account], it was clear we were witnessing the birth of something important. Since September 2010, Minecraft has gone through several updates from alpha to beta and release as well as help Notch form an independent studio in his home country of Sweden. Mojang still has a modest staff of less than 20 employees, but in celebration of 5 million sales of Minecraft and the end of tax season, Notch distributed the $3 million in dividends he was entitled to all back to his "Mojangstas".

"Before tax, my dividends from Mojang for 2011 was about three million dollars. I chose to distribute that to the other employees," Notch said in a Tweet this morning [https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/175174949277941760].

"Every single Mojangsta is a massive part of the reason Mojang is the best place on earth to work at right now," Notch @mollstam [https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/175175266094678016]."

After hearing about so many programmers and game developers mistreated by various studio heads [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/97391-Rockstar-Wives-Complain-About-Working-Conditions], it's refreshing to hear that Notch lives up to the hype by not only respecting his employees, but rewarding them handily as well.

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That's a pretty sweet bonus. They have to be some of the wealthiest game programmers in the world right about now :p
 

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$150,000 a person is a pretty nice little bonus to get.

Does he really call them "Mojangsta?" That's really weird. Even for Sweden.
 

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Qitz said:
$150,000 a person is a pretty nice little bonus to get.

Does he really call them "Mojangsta?" That's really weird. Even for Sweden.


Converting 150,000 dollars to our currency here in Sweden... wow. Nearly a million crowns. That's one helluva bonus.
 

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Why didn't he finance a biology lab to genetically engineer real-life creepers?....

Oh, right, because that is a stupid idea.
 

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For a guy who made millions off a game about mining, Notch really isn't that vein.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
For a guy who made millions off a game about mining, Notch really isn't that vein.
To you my friend:
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I don't like how he's bragging about this. Just like the people who just have to tell you how much they they donate to a charity. Let the people who received the money decide if they want the world to know.

Other than that, that's pretty damn awesome Notch.
 

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Im divided on how to feel about notch. He gives away millions to his employees but couldn't be bothered to pay his head liners at Minecon. Also speaking of minecon I still have a bad taste in my mouth on that whole deal with Yogscast.

But on the other hand notch is trying to fund pysonaughts 2
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
For a guy who made millions off a game about mining, Notch really isn't that vein.
Well, I guess you could say he can add another Notch to his pickaxe.
 

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If even a small handful of other business owners/shareholders/CEOs were like Notch, the world would be a better place and the OCCUPY people would be having parties instead of protests.
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
For a guy who made millions off a game about mining, Notch really isn't that vein.
Dang it, I was on a streak of not finding puns funny.

Did Notch keep any of that money for himself?
 

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Normally I would be annoyed at Notch always doing things to get into the spotlight... but this time its awesome, and newsworthy.
I am giving him the benefit of the doubt and not assuming he divided the spoils by position in the company and just gave each a equal portion ( not 20% for the CEO and 5% for the lads doing the mass art assets :p ).
 

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Wow. Way to go, Notch.

It's sad how many companies seem to be organized on a principle of "The results of good times get distributed to the CEO, VPs, other upper-echelon staff, and the investors, and the bad times result in the "disposables" getting shafted."

In contrast, it's really good to hear of a boss who actually shares the trappings of success with those who helped make it possible.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
DVS BSTrD said:
For a guy who made millions off a game about mining, Notch really isn't that vein.
Dang it, I was on a streak of not finding puns funny.

Did Notch keep any of that money for himself?
He made so freaking much out of Minecraft sales (5 million copies sold, even if You multiply it by early beta price, considering he distributed, published and sold it on his own is over 50 million) that he probably didn't see reason to keep even more of it for himself. Still, nice move from his side. Good to see people not wasting money for just swimming in them in their spare time, but actually rewarding their employees.
 

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Its good to see that there is some sort of soul driving a games company, and staying aflot without selling it. He really is starting to seem like an awesome guy. Just hope 'Minecraft' stays populer. Wouldnt want to lose a nice guy from the industry 'cos people got bored.
 

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Wow...that's one hell of a move.

I'm wondering though. Has the rate of Minecraft units sold decreased or is it steady? 5 million sales is a lot but how many more people will buy it? Mojang can't keep this lavish giveaways (thinking of Psychonauts here too) without putting another game on the market soonish.
 

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shiajun said:
Wow...that's one hell of a move.

I'm wondering though. Has the rate of Minecraft units sold decreased or is it steady? 5 million sales is a lot but how many more people will buy it? Mojang can't keep this lavish giveaways (thinking of Psychonauts here too) without putting another game on the market soonish.
I'm assuming that Notch will be getting his money back with interest if Psychonauts 2 sells and frankly I think it might sell really, really well considering it was financed by Notch. By now, Notch is as relevant as the Pope. What I do hope is that he keeps investing his money in worthy causes and uses the power he has to steer the gaming industry in the right direction once again.
 

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Well that's not really something you need to brag about, however, well done Notch.

He seems pretty liberal with his money... hopefully he gets some good games out the door or else he might find hard times ahead.
 

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Well that's not really something you need to brag about, however, well done Notch.

He seems pretty liberal with his money... hopefully he gets some good games out the door or else he might find hard times ahead.
Notch? Working on games? Fat chance. Scrolls will flop and Mojang will be out like a light. Kinda sad but whatever. Save us all, Jeb!
 

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It's official Notch is the best boss in the world. Can I have a job Notch? I don't know much about programming but I make great coffee :p
 

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Im getting the feeling alot of people suddently want in on Mojang and thier licence to print money.
 

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I may think his game is a bag of shit. But even I'll admit that's a pretty damn cool thing to do. Even if he did only do it to brag about, I'm sure his employees aren't concerned about his motives.
 

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I may think his game is a bag of shit. But even I'll admit that's a pretty damn cool thing to do. Even if he did only do it to brag about, I'm sure his employees aren't concerned about his motives.
Everything he does is to gain attention. Still, what he did has a positive effect so it doesn't matter I guess.
 

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I don't like how he's bragging about this. Just like the people who just have to tell you how much they they donate to a charity. Let the people who received the money decide if they want the world to know.

Other than that, that's pretty damn awesome Notch.
This was my first thought, but it did quickly change to, "Well, that's a pretty cool thing to do."

I guess regardless of why people do something good, as long as they do good, right?
 

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Nothing wrong with being nice, for attention or not.
So long as you wouldn't be evil for that same attention.
 

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Hopefully his business continues to do well, enabling him to continue with lavish payments to employees and promises of large investments to publish sequels to beloved commercial failures.

I'd hate for him to end up living in a van down by the river in a few years. If I had a 3 million dollar dividend from my company, I'd STUFF MY MATTRESS WITH GOLD and then give the rest to the company as a bonus.
 

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Also speaking of minecon I still have a bad taste in my mouth on that whole deal with Yogscast.
Really? I love watching YogsCast videos too, but I'm not going to hate him for bitching about them.

He's a cool guy, and even though he has a big mouth, I still respect him. And the YogsCast for handling it so professionally.

But seriously, I think we should let that one drop now.
 

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Nothing wrong with being nice, for attention or not.
So long as you wouldn't be evil for that same attention.
I agree with this guy ^
Honestly, I thing doing good things deserve attention. I'm sick of hearing about layoffs and other terrible places screwing people over.
 

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Qitz said:
$150,000 a person is a pretty nice little bonus to get.

Does he really call them "Mojangsta?" That's really weird. Even for Sweden.


Converting 150,000 dollars to our currency here in Sweden... wow. Nearly a million crowns. That's one helluva bonus.


Dude. DUDE. Putting that into perspective...Jesus christ, man, that's about two year's pay up here in Norway if you've got a good/great job.
You know what guys? I don't give a toss if this was just for the attention, the man is insane in all the right ways, first making minecraft, Showing up on and donating several thousand to Desert Bus for Hope 5, then co-partnering with lego, then pretty much single-handedly funding psychonauts 2 and now THIS? Jesus.Fucking.Christ. He is a saint amongst gamers and the raddest human being I know of.
 

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And this is why we defend Notch and Mojang. As popular as they are (and we all know the internet hates popular things), they're nice guys and it's great to see them this successful.
 

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I don't like how he's bragging about this. Just like the people who just have to tell you how much they they donate to a charity. Let the people who received the money decide if they want the world to know.

Other than that, that's pretty damn awesome Notch.
So you don't think it sends a pretty strong message to the rest of the industry? It's a statement.
 

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Sober Thal said:
I don't like how he's bragging about this. Just like the people who just have to tell you how much they they donate to a charity. Let the people who received the money decide if they want the world to know.

Other than that, that's pretty damn awesome Notch.
So you don't think it sends a pretty strong message to the rest of the industry? It's a statement.
Nope. I don't think it sends a strong message to the rest of the gaming industry. I don't think how Google treats their employees changed how big business handles workers either.
 

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Sober Thal said:
Acrisius said:
Sober Thal said:
I don't like how he's bragging about this. Just like the people who just have to tell you how much they they donate to a charity. Let the people who received the money decide if they want the world to know.

Other than that, that's pretty damn awesome Notch.
So you don't think it sends a pretty strong message to the rest of the industry? It's a statement.
Nope. I don't think it sends a strong message to the rest of the gaming industry. I don't think how Google treats their employees changed how big business handles workers either.
And yet you know about it. And so does everyone else. That's a start.
 

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I do find it awesome hes treating his employees so well and not using them to make games, wringing them for all their worth and then tossing them out like an old sponge once they're done. But yeah you don't need to announce such a thing, just sounds like an attention grab, a douchey but very nice attention grab though. I don't know notch though, I love minecraft and I like that those who are still working on it get what they deserve.
 

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Can we crown him a pixelated philanthropic God yet?

Because I would totally pray to that. You know. In the manner one would pray to a pixelated God--by playing the game he made for us. Then playing the game that he and Jack BlackTim Schafer might possibly be working on.

Of course, we'll also need to ascend Jeb, so that things actually get done...
 

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That would have been more cool if he hadn't recently been a massive fucking dick about Psychonauts 2. "Sure I'll give you money. Oh wait, I was just joking, haha."

Money should have gone towards Psychonauts 2 development. Or towards measures to stop Notch from ever speaking on the internet again so nobody else has to suffer his constant bullshit.
 

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Right on Notch.

If you resided in N.America the business community as well as Fox News would vilify you as some sort of Socialist Radical bent on undermining the integrity of our job-creating overlords. I can just imagine the hammer and PICKAXE graphic that Fox would come up with...
no wait PICKAXE and sickle would look better.
 

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Right on Notch.

If you resided in N.America the business community as well as Fox News would vilify you as some sort of Socialist Radical bent on undermining the integrity of our job-creating overlords. I can just imagine the hammer and PICKAXE graphic that Fox would come up with...
no wait PICKAXE and sickle would look better.
EA :"We creat thousands of jobs each year by opening up new positions previously held by other employees"

Notch's move isn't socialist in the slightest - it's smart business practice. Share the profits with the employees. Huge profits divided by little employees equals huge Bonus.
They worked hard for the profit, so they should be entitled to reap the rewards.

Btw, when did Notch brag about this ? I only saw one tweet from him saying that he did it. Is that bragging now ?
 

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LorienvArden said:
Higgs303 said:
Right on Notch.

If you resided in N.America the business community as well as Fox News would vilify you as some sort of Socialist Radical bent on undermining the integrity of our job-creating overlords. I can just imagine the hammer and PICKAXE graphic that Fox would come up with...
no wait PICKAXE and sickle would look better.
EA :"We creat thousands of jobs each year by opening up new positions previously held by other employees"

Notch's move isn't socialist in the slightest - it's smart business practice. Share the profits with the employees. Huge profits divided by little employees equals huge Bonus.
They worked hard for the profit, so they should be entitled to reap the rewards.

Btw, when did Notch brag about this ? I only saw one tweet from him saying that he did it. Is that bragging now ?
I KNOW, it isn't really socialist policy, however I could eaily see the various right-wing and market fundamentalist factions of N.America viewing such practice of "sharing the wealth" (if only within the company) as a threat to their beliefs. These are the people who called Warren FUCKING Buffett, one of the world's most succesful capitalists, a socialist-marxist after he called for a modest tax hike on the ulra rich. It's a bit different of a situation as taxation is government policy versus the internal practices of a gaming enterprise, but you see the point I'm trying to make. Such interests don't like a precedent being set in which workers are getting a sizable chunk of a capitalist's profit. Evil things like co-ops and nordic model taxation could arise if the witchhunters aren't vigilant...
 

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That would have been more cool if he hadn't recently been a massive fucking dick about Psychonauts 2. "Sure I'll give you money. Oh wait, I was just joking, haha."

Money should have gone towards Psychonauts 2 development. Or towards measures to stop Notch from ever speaking on the internet again so nobody else has to suffer his constant bullshit.
Stop trolling.
Notch did not fund spychonauts 2 because double fine started with their kickstarter and used that to fund their game a point and click.
Notch cant give them money if double fine does not accept it.
 

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I dind't want to contradict your statement, just wanted point out that I felt it was a just and proper business decision.
Yes, Fox news and other media outlets are kinda distorting the meaning of concepts like socialism etc. to suit ther needs to borderline propaganda methods.

I absolutly LOVED buffets idea of motivating politicans to do their jobs by not making them eligable for reelection if the budgetary deficit rose over a certain margin. It certainly is a pipedream and utterly impractical due to the nature of bipartisan trench warfare, but the theory of tying the future of their jobs to the actual results instead of how much money they can waste on propaganda and slander (aka. election marketing) gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
 

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Notch did not fund spychonauts 2 because double fine started with their kickstarter and used that to fund their game a point and click.
Afaik notch said he would like to fund a psychonauts sequel - he also took part in the kickstarter for the double fine point& click adventure, so those should be two seperate projects he gave support to.
 

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Im divided on how to feel about notch. He gives away millions to his employees but couldn't be bothered to pay his head liners at Minecon. Also speaking of minecon I still have a bad taste in my mouth on that whole deal with Yogscast.

But on the other hand notch is trying to fund pysonaughts 2
People have shed all kinds of clarity on the Yogscast situation and everyone came to the conclusion that 'notch took things the wrong way'. meaning that no one was in the wrong with anything. so my advice to you is to stop caring so much about something so small.

and by headliners if you're referring the fact that notch didn't pay yogscast, he invited them.. and they even said that they didn't expect payment.

Notch gets so much hate for no reason. He didn't do anything wrong at Minecon, but the fans of notch and the yogscast took it completely out of hand.


Overall notch is a great guy, made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle, paid 3k for an indie bundle, offered to fund psychonaughts 2 (which appears to be the only thing people recognize him for, something i find pathetic), gives his employees $150k bonuses and created one of the most renowned indie games of today.

When people criticize him for doing all of this for attention it's another thing i find stupid. If you do something generous you generally expect some recognition for it..
 

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Okay, I get it. He's a saint/god among lowly men. I would be lucky to not only work with him and his company, but to get a glimpse of his awesome magnificence. He shines brighter than the brightest star in the sky. Ballads and poems will be penned in his name, glorifying his attributes and additions to our wonderful world.

Can we get more info on Psychonauts 2 please? I'll make a shrine just for him next to my Bioware one of that gets off the ground.
 

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Can we crown him a pixelated philanthropic God yet?

Because I would totally pray to that. You know. In the manner one would pray to a pixelated God--by playing the game he made for us. Then playing the game that he and Jack BlackTim Schafer might possibly be working on.

Of course, we'll also need to ascend Jeb, so that things actually get done...
If you wanna crown a pixelated philantropic God, you really should look up how much money Bill Gates have donated to charity in his life-time (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027878/Bill-Gates-pledges-58-billion-fortune-charity--children.html), and that's just the money he's pledged when he dies, it isn't even counting the money he gives every year.

What I am trying to say is that it almost makes up for Vista.
 

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Btw, when did Notch brag about this ? I only saw one tweet from him saying that he did it. Is that bragging now ?
He didn't. Some people just like to interpret his openness, spontaneity and joking around on Twitter as bragging.

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That would have been more cool if he hadn't recently been a massive fucking dick about Psychonauts 2. "Sure I'll give you money. Oh wait, I was just joking, haha."

Money should have gone towards Psychonauts 2 development. Or towards measures to stop Notch from ever speaking on the internet again so nobody else has to suffer his constant bullshit.
Notch and Schafer are getting together to discuss the Psychonauts 2 thing in person at GDC this week.

Notch didn't expect the game to cost $13M+, as Schafer has suggested, so it's not exactly an investment you can make without some considerable planning and discussion between the two parties. (Because it is a high-risk investment, and not some sort of a donation.)
 

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He didn't. Some people just like to interpret his openness, spontaneity and joking around on Twitter as bragging.
Attention whoring would be a better word, right?

JediMB said:
Notch and Schafer are getting together to discuss the Psychonauts 2 thing in person at GDC this week.

Notch didn't expect the game to cost $13M+, as Schafer has suggested, so it's not exactly an investment you can make without some considerable planning and discussion between the two parties. (Because it is a high-risk investment, and not some sort of a donation.)
Notch isn't used to spending money on game development so it doesn't come off as a surprise that he underestimated the development costs.
 

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Balobo said:
JediMB said:
He didn't. Some people just like to interpret his openness, spontaneity and joking around on Twitter as bragging.
Attention whoring would be a better word, right?
Like everyone else with an active Twitter account, I guess?
 

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JediMB said:
Balobo said:
JediMB said:
He didn't. Some people just like to interpret his openness, spontaneity and joking around on Twitter as bragging.
Attention whoring would be a better word, right?
Like everyone else with an active Twitter account, I guess?
Other Twitter users don't get paid for (not) doing stuff
 

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made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle
Wolfire made a better and more complex game in the same amount of time but the Mojang cocksuckers only focused on their shitty RTS thing
 

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BehattedWanderer said:
Can we crown him a pixelated philanthropic God yet?

Because I would totally pray to that. You know. In the manner one would pray to a pixelated God--by playing the game he made for us. Then playing the game that he and Jack BlackTim Schafer might possibly be working on.

Of course, we'll also need to ascend Jeb, so that things actually get done...
If you wanna crown a pixelated philantropic God, you really should look up how much money Bill Gates have donated to charity in his life-time (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027878/Bill-Gates-pledges-58-billion-fortune-charity--children.html), and that's just the money he's pledged when he dies, it isn't even counting the money he gives every year.

What I am trying to say is that it almost makes up for Vista.
He's got the philanthropic part down, sure, but he's missing the pixelated part. I'll not have one without the other, if we're considering godhood here.
 

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Balobo said:
Angry Juju said:
made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle
Wolfire made a better and more complex game in the same amount of time but the Mojang cocksuckers only focused on their shitty RTS thing
Jesus Christ, did Mojang kill your parents or something? Yes, Notch uses Twitter to gain attention? You wanna know why? Cause that's called marketing. He wants people to buy his game. That's okay he's allowed to do that. It's business.

As him not knowing how to fund a game, is he (and Mojang) not publishing Cobalt? Seems like he'd probably know at least a bit about it.

Why do you have such a vendetta against them. A lot of people enjoy Minecraft. If you don't that's fine, but don't attack everyone who likes it.

Wait, are you the Fortress Craft guy?
 

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Balobo said:
JediMB said:
Balobo said:
JediMB said:
He didn't. Some people just like to interpret his openness, spontaneity and joking around on Twitter as bragging.
Attention whoring would be a better word, right?
Like everyone else with an active Twitter account, I guess?
Other Twitter users don't get paid for (not) doing stuff
Until a few months ago he was a full-time developer. Now he's still the founder and owner of a company, and is for the time being basically doing R&D for future projects.

You seem to be constantly changing your argument, anyway. I think I'll just leave you to your little vendetta now.
 

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Balobo said:
Angry Juju said:
made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle
Wolfire made a better and more complex game in the same amount of time but the Mojang cocksuckers only focused on their shitty RTS thing
Jesus, what's your problem? in fact. what's everyone's problem with notch? he hasn't done anything wrong thus far. people just jump on him about using his twitter account for what you may as well call casual business.

I know you won't reply to this because you know i'm right. but people need to grow up. seriously.
 

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Angry Juju said:
Balobo said:
Angry Juju said:
made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle
Wolfire made a better and more complex game in the same amount of time but the Mojang cocksuckers only focused on their shitty RTS thing
Jesus, what's your problem? in fact. what's everyone's problem with notch? he hasn't done anything wrong thus far. people just jump on him about using his twitter account for what you may as well call casual business.

I know you won't reply to this because you know i'm right. but people need to grow up. seriously.
Jealousy.

I should know, I feel it too. He reminds people like me (and Balobo it seems) that we don't have what it takes to create anything of worth, let alone something that makes us millions of dollars and reaches millions of people.
Unfortunately not everyone that feels this way can suck it up and accept that despite their jealousy Notch hasn't actually done anything wrong.
 

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fletch_talon said:
Angry Juju said:
Balobo said:
Angry Juju said:
made a game in 48 hours with the humblebundle
Wolfire made a better and more complex game in the same amount of time but the Mojang cocksuckers only focused on their shitty RTS thing
Jesus, what's your problem? in fact. what's everyone's problem with notch? he hasn't done anything wrong thus far. people just jump on him about using his twitter account for what you may as well call casual business.

I know you won't reply to this because you know i'm right. but people need to grow up. seriously.
Jealousy.

I should know, I feel it too. He reminds people like me (and Balobo it seems) that we don't have what it takes to create anything of worth, let alone something that makes us millions of dollars and reaches millions of people.
Unfortunately not everyone that feels this way can suck it up and accept that despite their jealousy Notch hasn't actually done anything wrong.
Probably. jealousy is fine, we all feel it at least subconsciously however it's the attacking someone for doing something good which i hate. Though i should bring up that this isn't the first thread i've seen Balobo like this in.
 

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remnant_phoenix said:
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Well, I guess you could say he can add another Notch to his pickaxe.
(cue CSI: Miami music)

YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
http://mirrors.rit.edu/instantCSI/
For future reference.
Hah! That's the exact URL I had in mind when I posted, but I didn't have the URL on hand. Now it's bookmarked.

Much obliged.
 

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That's a hell of a moral boost for his employees! Hope that keeps the quality of his products up, kudos to Notch!(Coming from someone that doesn't play minecraft anymore :p )
 

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So, you think they'd considering hiring some 17 year old in England with no talent?
Pretty please?
 

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You quoted a load of people and provided ZERO reasoning as to why you hate notch. All you did was insult everyone.

Attention whoring isn't a valid reason for hating Notch, and it never will be. He wants people to buy his game but he doesn't want to be so traditional with the way he does it.

And as for your QQ about him not funding his own game, you do realize how much WORSE minecraft would be if he had a larger team don't you? and updates wouldn't come out any faster..

Oh and one last thing..
Yes they're funding a small indie game. I never said he was inexperienced with giving money out anyways.
Notch isn't used to spending money on game development so it doesn't come off as a surprise that he underestimated the development costs.
Just because it seems that your memory is as shallow as your reasons for hating mojang.
 

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So, you think they'd considering hiring some 17 year old in England with no talent?
Pretty please?
Probably. Remember, they have a manager of fun or some shit.

Angry Juju said:
You quoted a load of people and provided ZERO reasoning as to why you hate notch. All you did was insult everyone.

Attention whoring isn't a valid reason for hating Notch, and it never will be. He wants people to buy his game but he doesn't want to be so traditional with the way he does it.

And as for your QQ about him not funding his own game, you do realize how much WORSE minecraft would be if he had a larger team don't you? and updates wouldn't come out any faster..

Oh and one last thing..
Yes it is.

And Minecraft would be better with a larger team. Can you really say with a straight face that Minecraft would be more unoriginal and unstable with a larger team than it is now?
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Yes they're funding a small indie game. I never said he was inexperienced with giving money out anyways.
Notch isn't used to spending money on game development so it doesn't come off as a surprise that he underestimated the development costs.
Just because it seems that your memory is as shallow as your reasons for hating mojang.
I meant that he was not used to spending money on HIS own games.
That is, Minecraft.

Anyways not that any of this matters, he'll be irrelevant in a year anyways.
 

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Nile McMorrow said:
Well, I guess you could say he can add another Notch to his pickaxe.
(cue CSI: Miami music)

YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Is this what it has come to? Not The Who's Won't Get Fooled Again but "CSI: Miami music". What next? "The Wonder Years music"? "The Wire music" or even "House music". A bit of respect please.
 

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remnant_phoenix said:
maxmanrules said:
remnant_phoenix said:
Nile McMorrow said:
Well, I guess you could say he can add another Notch to his pickaxe.
(cue CSI: Miami music)

YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
http://mirrors.rit.edu/instantCSI/
For future reference.
Hah! That's the exact URL I had in mind when I posted, but I didn't have the URL on hand. Now it's bookmarked.

Much obliged.
That is quite alright good sir, have a spiffing day. (It's my third bookmark :D)
 

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Balobo said:
I meant that he was not used to spending money on HIS own games.
That is, Minecraft.

Anyways not that any of this matters, he'll be irrelevant in a year anyways.
Nope. Don't change your argument because you've been proven wrong, you didn't state that AT ALL. you were even arguing about psychonauts 2 at the time.

And stop QQing because your computer can't run minecraft, the game has bugs as do all games and the game was inspired by and built upon infiniminer (guess what? minecraft isn't the first game that's not completely original) however it's good enough how it is, you might not like the game but then that's your own preference, so far you've came out with ZERO reasons that aren't complete bullshit as to why you hate mojang, tell us ONE, just ONE ('blablah notch r attenshun whore' doe not count).
 

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Nope. Don't change your argument because you've been proven wrong, you didn't state that AT ALL. you were even arguing about psychonauts 2 at the time.
Umm I never changed my opinion. I always said that he was good at throwing money around, but never good at funding his own shit.

Angry Juju said:
And stop QQing because your computer can't run minecraft,
Very interesting comment you have there :) I, in fact, run it with Sonic Ether's Unbelievable Shaders at around 60 FPS capped. Of course, this would be much easier if the game actually had any effort put into optimization (which it doesn't).

Angry Juju said:
the game has bugs as do all games
An unusually high amount of bugs, some of which have been known for over a year and never fixed.


Angry Juju said:
and the game was inspired by and built upon infiniminer (guess what? minecraft isn't the first game that's not completely original) however it's good enough how it is, you might not like the game but then that's your own preference, so far you've came out with ZERO reasons that aren't complete bullshit as to why you hate mojang, tell us ONE, just ONE ('blablah notch r attenshun whore' doe not count).
I can give several. For one thing, being praised for innovation and creativity when they have not shown examples of either. The problem is the company will never be good under Notch's leadership. You cannot succeed while having that clown running the company and the PR. I don't have many criticisms for the team itself, but I have several for Notch. He's arrogant, unprofessional, constantly seeking the limelight for doing nothing, is deft to a lot of criticisms, etc. Minecraft really should be a five dollar game on Steam, but it isn't. The amount of content in it isn't worth more than five dollars. Yet Notch increases the price between different stages of development without any significant extras to warrant the price hike. Now, Minecraft can be fun under certain circumstances (some huge no-rules PVP servers, for one), but is severely missing elements in other circumstances. I'm not saying this to troll (the mods seemed to have thought I did, even though I didn't) but everything I've said has been true. Maybe you like Minecraft and Mojang (and even Notch...) and that's fine, but you're going to see them getting a lot less attention in the coming months because they're a one-trick pony. They're not going to make much more and they'll quickly fade into obscurity once the Minecraft craze dies out and gets replaced by another.
 

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Balobo said:
I can give several. For one thing, being praised for innovation and creativity when they have not shown examples of either.
Neither did Skyrim, but then that's still goty

Balobo said:
The problem is the company will never be good under Notch's leadership. You cannot succeed while having that clown running the company and the PR.
Why? why won't it succeed? it's been doing well for about 2 years, and you still haven't provided any reason as to why notch is a clown.

Balobo said:
I don't have many criticisms for the team itself
Then why do you keep insulting mojang and not notch?

Balobo said:
He's arrogant, unprofessional, constantly seeking the limelight for doing nothing
Of course he's unprofessional, you don't need to be a stereotypical boss to run a company. You've provided no evidence as to how he's arrogant and finally, he made a game and he wants to sell it, do you turn on your TV and say 'Geico? god what attention whores'

Balobo said:
is deft to a lot of criticisms, etc.
I've yet to see you say or give any valid, constructive criticism, the game does have its flaws but then so do all games. (and don't repeat that bullshit reason that minecraft has more bugs than your average game, that point's entirely subjective)

Balobo said:
Minecraft really should be a five dollar game on Steam, but it isn't. The amount of content in it isn't worth more than five dollars. Yet Notch increases the price between different stages of development without any significant extras to warrant the price hike.
Okay, Notch tried a different marketing plan (that worked, quite successfully). and he didn't suddenly say 'Hey, we're raising the price of this game now, okay?' It said on the website that the price was going to increase about a year or two ago.. And on top of that, it's not much more expensive than games like super meat boy and bastion.

And why does it have to be on steam? By keeping it off steam he's keeping away steam's DRM.

Balobo said:
I'm not saying this to troll (the mods seemed to have thought I did, even though I didn't)
I shouldn't have to quote what I can blatantly see as trolling and flaming in your posts, if you can't see it then why are you on forums in the first place?

Balobo said:
but everything I've said has been true.
You haven't said anything.. you've wrote a lot but haven't made a valid point.

Balobo said:
Maybe you like Minecraft and Mojang (and even Notch...) and that's fine, but you're going to see them getting a lot less attention in the coming months because they're a one-trick pony. They're not going to make much more and they'll quickly fade into obscurity once the Minecraft craze dies out and gets replaced by another.
You think that. I won't burst your bubble there, even though the Minecraft craze died out long ago...
 

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Neither did Skyrim, but then that's still goty
I don't agree with Skyrim being GoTY so I guess we have an agreement here.

Angry Juju said:
Why? why won't it succeed? it's been doing well for about 2 years, and you still haven't provided any reason as to why notch is a clown.
Because it's been riding on the Minecraft success for the past couple of years. Do you see Scrolls making any headlines? I thought not.

Angry Juju said:
Then why do you keep insulting mojang and not notch?
? I've insulted Notch way more than I've insulted Mojang itself

Angry Juju said:
Of course he's unprofessional, you don't need to be a stereotypical boss to run a company.
...You have to AT LEAST act like an adult when you're doing business with other people.

Angry Juju said:
You've provided no evidence as to how he's arrogant and finally, he made a game and he wants to sell it, do you turn on your TV and say 'Geico? god what attention whores'
An example would be his departure from 4chan for Reddit due to getting criticisms from 4chan. Reddit, with every thread being a circlejerk, suited Notch well. Also saying he needs a rest from game development altogether because he spent so much effort making a small... Java game....?

Angry Juju said:
I've yet to see you say or give any valid, constructive criticism, the game does have its flaws but then so do all games. (and don't repeat that bullshit reason that minecraft has more bugs than your average game, that point's entirely subjective)
Oh yes Minecraft is totally as stable and well optimized as other games. It TOTALLY has a shit ton of content and not just an artificial vastness created by the world generator. It totally does more than just repeat blocks and mobs for the miles and miles it goes on for.

Balobo said:
Minecraft really should be a five dollar game on Steam, but it isn't. The amount of content in it isn't worth more than five dollars. Yet Notch increases the price between different stages of development without any significant extras to warrant the price hike.
Angry Juju said:
Okay, Notch tried a different marketing plan (that worked, quite successfully). and he didn't suddenly say 'Hey, we're raising the price of this game now, okay?' It said on the website that the price was going to increase about a year or two ago.. And on top of that, it's not much more expensive than games like super meat boy and bastion.
I know he said he would, but I actually hoped that he would've done more between each stage other than changing the name and announcing slower updates.

Angry Juju said:
And why does it have to be on steam? By keeping it off steam he's keeping away steam's DRM.
Idk it doesn't really matter I was just using Steam as an example.


Angry Juju said:
I shouldn't have to quote what I can blatantly see as trolling and flaming in your posts, if you can't see it then why are you on forums in the first place?
Apparently you have more of a problem with this, considering you have less posts than me and have been here for a significantly shorter amount of time and yet you're on the bordering red.

Angry Juju said:
You haven't said anything.. you've wrote a lot but haven't made a valid point.
Hmm... if I haven't, can you really say you have?

Angry Juju said:
You think that. I won't burst your bubble there, even though the Minecraft craze died out long ago...
Really? Then how come their latest game, Scrolls, isn't receiving any prerelease hype that would show that it would have the strength to carry Mojang on its back?