Ok. I do absolutely get what you are saying. Honestly I snipped most the rest because it is examples coming back to this central point. In fact I completely agree with you that presentation of a message is paramount on how well it is received.lacktheknack said:viranimus said:snip
2. I'm not deriding your message, just your presentation.
We're actually very much on the same page.
However you have to have what you present properly convey the gravity of an issue. Here is the thing. This is not a new issue. This is not something that has just came out of the blue over the last year. This industry has been methodically plodding down this primrose path for over a decade and in fact pushing two now. Yet there has been little or nothing to hinder such "progress" and that is the exact reason we are where we are now.
So on the one hand given that impassioned courteous pleas have consistently fallen on seemingly deaf ears through these decades, Then escalation to more drastic steps become required. Then on the other hand we find ourselves in a very unique and in fact dire situation that most people cannot foresee. Right now we live in a time where we are about to go through a major economic/societal change. As we speak this generation is laying the foundation for the economic future. Not only our own but for future generations and this foundation may in fact exist for decades, perhaps hundreds, plausibly even a thousand years to come.
Yet this economic foundation is being written by people who subscribe to ideas like "I would use GOG but yanno, all my games are already on Steam and I do not want to have to sign up for another service and manage my games" (An appalling sentiment I heard over a year ago that still is just as repugnant.) People who knew exactly how damaging Diablo 3 would be to all gamers, but still went ahead and purchased it. Then (there HAD to be overlap, Its impossible there wasnt) we see the exact same warnings from SimCity and the exact same result. And how is this rationalized? "Its my money, Ill do with it what I want" and "If you don't like it, don't buy it. It doesnt hurt you what I buy". I could give sooo many examples here of the grievous errors we as consumers are making and the damage it is/going to cause but I am getting off track.
My point is that between years worth of trying to rationally present a better way, or pointing out the smoking type effects of our actions to see it consistently ignored, if not belligerently ridiculed as Slippery slope arguments, Worst case scenarios, Being pointlessly cynical, etc and presenting in a cordial and contentious manner consistent failure to stem the tide, coupled with the sense of urgency that comes with knowing that as the technology advances, what we allow to become "Standard operating procedure" from existing digital distribution platforms will become the foundation of economic transfer when digital distribution expands into non media realms and we truly are faced with the "Would you download a car" dilemmas.
So There is an urgent need to get people unified and point them at what we must cull now before its cancer spreads. The gentle rapping at the chamber doors has gone unheard. Now there is little or no time left to wait for it to be noticed. It is long past time we beat the doors down with a battering ram. Yes it is destructive and rude for someone to break your doors down but If we fail to properly steer this future and unify consumers to protect themselves as well as others like them, the door will still be broken down, only it will be blown apart by even more draconian corporate measures.
So on the one hand given that impassioned courteous pleas have consistently fallen on seemingly deaf ears through these decades, Then escalation to more drastic steps become required. Then on the other hand we find ourselves in a very unique and in fact dire situation that most people cannot foresee. Right now we live in a time where we are about to go through a major economic/societal change. As we speak this generation is laying the foundation for the economic future. Not only our own but for future generations and this foundation may in fact exist for decades, perhaps hundreds, plausibly even a thousand years to come.
Yet this economic foundation is being written by people who subscribe to ideas like "I would use GOG but yanno, all my games are already on Steam and I do not want to have to sign up for another service and manage my games" (An appalling sentiment I heard over a year ago that still is just as repugnant.) People who knew exactly how damaging Diablo 3 would be to all gamers, but still went ahead and purchased it. Then (there HAD to be overlap, Its impossible there wasnt) we see the exact same warnings from SimCity and the exact same result. And how is this rationalized? "Its my money, Ill do with it what I want" and "If you don't like it, don't buy it. It doesnt hurt you what I buy". I could give sooo many examples here of the grievous errors we as consumers are making and the damage it is/going to cause but I am getting off track.
My point is that between years worth of trying to rationally present a better way, or pointing out the smoking type effects of our actions to see it consistently ignored, if not belligerently ridiculed as Slippery slope arguments, Worst case scenarios, Being pointlessly cynical, etc and presenting in a cordial and contentious manner consistent failure to stem the tide, coupled with the sense of urgency that comes with knowing that as the technology advances, what we allow to become "Standard operating procedure" from existing digital distribution platforms will become the foundation of economic transfer when digital distribution expands into non media realms and we truly are faced with the "Would you download a car" dilemmas.
So There is an urgent need to get people unified and point them at what we must cull now before its cancer spreads. The gentle rapping at the chamber doors has gone unheard. Now there is little or no time left to wait for it to be noticed. It is long past time we beat the doors down with a battering ram. Yes it is destructive and rude for someone to break your doors down but If we fail to properly steer this future and unify consumers to protect themselves as well as others like them, the door will still be broken down, only it will be blown apart by even more draconian corporate measures.
1. Not everything is analogous to Game of Thrones.Taken back by force... in... blood...
Ok. I grant you, I do have a tendency to use dark, ominous, aggressive language, and honestly Yes I was in a bit of a mood this morning and cranked it up to 11 so to speak. (I think Im still somewhat moody because Im more type-y than normal)
I would have never thought of GoT to be honest and I was not trying to make such an analogy.. But my sentiments and that phrase was as intended. Perhaps it is from unique experience growing up in a place where we are not nearly as far removed from times when similar battles were waged and often the cost was blood or life. Being little less than a century removed from having ancestors who did in fact die in order to obtain protection from corporate oppression that was a common thread pervasive of the culture. I can accept that perhaps I point to such tribulations and struggles in history a little too quickly, but I do not have any hesitation in thinking that if we are on the verge of an economic revolution that it is very much plausible such a revolution can turn to violence and blood, just as it has in similar scenarios repeatedly in the past. Hence my adamant demeanor. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
I would have never thought of GoT to be honest and I was not trying to make such an analogy.. But my sentiments and that phrase was as intended. Perhaps it is from unique experience growing up in a place where we are not nearly as far removed from times when similar battles were waged and often the cost was blood or life. Being little less than a century removed from having ancestors who did in fact die in order to obtain protection from corporate oppression that was a common thread pervasive of the culture. I can accept that perhaps I point to such tribulations and struggles in history a little too quickly, but I do not have any hesitation in thinking that if we are on the verge of an economic revolution that it is very much plausible such a revolution can turn to violence and blood, just as it has in similar scenarios repeatedly in the past. Hence my adamant demeanor. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.