NRA Likens Videogames to "the Filthiest Form of Pornography"

gentlemanghost

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Wayne LaPierre asks of violent media. "Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?"

Mr. LaPierre, if you think THAT'S the "filthiest form of pornography," you sir, have obviously never been on the internet
 

jimbob123432

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I've played video games since I was 6 (1996) and I've never killed anyone. John Wayne Gacy killed people and never played video games. Ergo, using the same logic as these anti-video game lobbies, the LACK of video games drives people to kill.

On a serious note: if parents have a problem with their kids playing violent video games, maybe they shouldn't BUY the video games, BUY the systems the games are played on, or ALLOW their kids to play the games in THEIR house. Since when have parents been unable to tell their kids what to do?
 

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I play a lot of video games. I watch quite a bit of porn. I'm not about to go fuckballs insane and try to kill a bunch of people. Why? Because I can separate fantasy from reality, like 99% of the other people who watch porn and play video games.
 

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Blablahb said:
aattss said:
I don't think banning guns is good, but I think that banning freedom of speech is a horrible idea.
Then you're going to love their next trick. The gun ownership supporters want someone deported from the US for using Freedom of Speech:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-petition-deport-piers-morgan-hits-31-400-112219264.html

Apparently they're quite selective about which parts of the constitution are important to them and which ones aren't.
No!

No no no no no no no no!!!


You keep him! We don't want him back! He's your problem now!
 

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ravenshrike said:
Loop Stricken said:
The NRA would appear to be very silly people indeed.
...but then I'm English and, as far as I've been told, am utterly unqualified to talk about guns whatsoever.
Less about guns, and more about anything involving crime whatsoever. There's a problem when people are regularly charged with a crime when defending themselves in their own home, no matter the implement used. That happens quite a lot in the UK.


As for LaPierre's statement, it's no more nonsensical than all the calls for more gun control.
"Regularly", you what now? You can be charged for using "excessive force", but I'd hope that'd be the case in any civilised society, you can't just go around killing people, even if they have broken into your home.
 

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Hey NRA you can keep pointing fingers at Video Games by calling them porn but you can't fool me. This isn't about video games. It's about semi-automatic weapons in the hands of the public. NRA, enough with the blame game we are sick of playing it.
 

Therumancer

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GunsmithKitten said:
Therumancer said:
This is the bottom line and the exact problem. As I said, the NRA is fighting those they should be allied with, as opposed to going after the liberals that are the actual problem facing both video games and gun ownership.
If you think there aren't conservative calls to put the hammer down on video games, if you REALLY THINK THAT, then you aren't near as saavy on modern American politics as you imagine yourself to be. Oh hoooo no.

Case in point...
ANY movement right now has followers on both sides of the fence, especially when it's a popular boogie man. I wasn't going into a complete political analysis of the entire thing. The ring leaders for this one happen to be liberals, who are after tighter goverment control and reigning in the right to free speech. Attacks on so called "hate speech", video games, movies, and other things accross the board are done as all it takes is a few precedents in one arena to let them get their fingers into the entire thing.

The opposition to these kinds of things tends to be heavily republican, while the ring leaders of the assaults tend to be people like Hillary Clinton (who was insturmental in the whole "Hot Coffee" incident). It's not that Republican leaders publically go on about their sex and violence and loving the subject matter, but largely due to being against federal power. Especially seeing as they realize that if the goverment can start regulating something as trivial as video games, they could begin working their way up to trying to do things like limit religious speech (which has already been an issue) and similar things. Many Republicans support some of the arguements againast video games, but doesn't believe that federal regulation is right, but might push for state or town regulation if it came to that. Most Republicans however tend to take a very "basic" point of view in terms of the freedom of speech and believe the goverment, no matter how well intentioned, should not be able to touch these rights. This is a philsophy that seeps
into everything from freedom of speech, to the right to bear arms. Of course to be honest this also tends to come down to "the right to be an asshole" which can make it unpopular when it comes to certain issues.

There is a reason why the country is so divided. I'm sure you'll have your arguements and links as to why "The Republicans are da Evil" and why anything I point out in response would be "debunked" or "wrong" to the point where I won't even bother in these forusm. The point is that with the way the sides break down, The Republicans are more on "our" side as video gamers than the Democrats are, even a lot of the ones who speak agains video games themselves.

At the end of the day both major parties/philsophies aren't exactly good for the people, as they both have huge down sides. I have a mixed bag of political philsophies, but tend to mostly go right wing as I feel it's the better side for everyone on most practical matters even if it doesn;t tell people what they want to hear too often.
 

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Ugh...why does the biggest voice for the right to own firearms have to be so stupid at times?

Where the hell is the representation for us who just want a pistol for home defense and enjoy going to the firing range with friends?
 

Daveman

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You know when somebody says something so stupid that so many counter-arguments, in their haste to present themselves, all get stuck like 20 different people trying to leave through the same door at the same time leaving you open-mouthed and fuming in a stunned silence.

That.
 

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while I do love filthy pornography AND video games, i fail to see the link between the two.
OT: Do people really still listen to the NRA? Even recently they wanted to prevent gun violence by giving more guns to people.
 

Therumancer

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GunsmithKitten said:
Therumancer said:
Many Republicans support some of the arguements againast video games, but doesn't believe that federal regulation is right, but might push for state or town regulation if it came to that.
Ah, the wonderful hypocrisy of "if it's not the federals persecuting you, it's okay!"

I'm sure you'll have your arguements and links as to why "The Republicans are da Evil" and why anything I point out in response would be "debunked" or "wrong" to the point where I won't even bother in these forusm.
No more evil than the Democrats.

The point is that with the way the sides break down, The Republicans are more on "our" side as video gamers than the Democrats are, even a lot of the ones who speak agains video games themselves.
You did notice who Glen Beck, a right wing talking head, was Yes Man'ing all the way to Jack Thompson, right?

I dont' think Thompsons on the side of video gamers.....

At the end of the day both major parties/philsophies aren't exactly good for the people, as they both have huge down sides. I have a mixed bag of political philsophies, but tend to mostly go right wing as I feel it's the better side for everyone on most practical matters even if it doesn;t tell people what they want to hear too often.
Better side for most. Yea, not for me, as it would land me in prison. If you wonder what I'm talking about, go look up the court case Lawrence Vs. Texas.

Or maybe because you're not as often the target of their moral finger wagging....
The moral finger wagging goes both ways though, and I find the politically correct BS from the left wing just as annoying. That's just universal though.

As I said, the issue has gone bi-partisan with leaders on both sides playing "kick the dog" with video games, it's the current boogey man for a reason. That said it's the left wing that has been using it for serious attempts at censorship and free speech. Jack Thomson is something of a joke, and he did things the wrong way. Consider the Hillary Clinton set out to do it, and she won, the whole "Hot Coffee" thing and forcing Rockstar to back down was one of the biggest victories against free speech there is. Jack likes to file motions and talk a lot of crap, but he's mostly harmless, not so for the left wing efforts who are far more serious about it.

As far as the rest goes, let me explain the key differance in Democratic Vs. Republican philsophy when you get past the specific issues and all of the bullshit.

Democrats (as pointed out) believe in an all powerful federal goverment that can do whatever it wants to whomever it wants and get up your business any time it wants. States and towns becoming irrelevent, and sweeping nation-wide legislation and policy making being the norm.

Republicans believe in state and local power being the focus of the USA, with a weak federal goverment that exists largely to fight wars and deal with international politics, while the states and towns pretty much tend to their own affairs.

As time has gone on, and the federal goverment has gotten bigger and more powerful, even hardline Republicans have been forced to fight largely on a federal level. That said if we ever did see a long period of Republican domination you'd probably see the Federal goverment gradually deconstucted down to a shadow of what it is now, as unlikely as that happens to be.

I personally believe that people have the right to decide what happens in their own back yard, and are the best ones at choosing what they want to do. 99% of the social issues out there are things that should be resolved on an area by area basis, based on what the majority of people in the areas want. Your typical citizen can do a lot more to influance his town council, than Washington DC. What the majority of people want in each area, is what they do, and of course on a local level that can change as the attitudes of the people do. Done properly this means people are likely to wind up entering communities with those who happen to be like minded. It would take a real train wreck of a person to not fit in anywhere, and really that in of itself shows the person as the problem in the unlikely event that it was to happen.

To be honest with you, I could really give a flying leap if some town decides to ban video games locally or whatever. If that's what the people there want, more power to them and their ignorance, that's part of being in a free country. Just don't bother the people in the next town over, which is usually not a problem when it comes to this kind of thing.

To me 90% of the problem is that the Federal Goverment shouldn't be involved in issues like this, setting policies on things like media and what should be acceptable, or not acceptable, or whatever else. That's for the people themselves to decide. We're The United States, not The American Empire, each state is supposed to be pretty autonomous and largely made up of collections of fairly autonomous towns, bouroughs, etc... Pretty much any issue you can think of is better handled at a state or local level, as well as allowing differant groups to do differant things so they don't wind up needing to come to blows over it. 99% of the big issues, are big issues because of attempts to introduce sweeping legislature that will force everyone to follow ad accept it.

No system is perfect, but I tend to agree more with that way of thinking (there are pros and cons to both ideas), so I wind up going with the Republicans a lot more than the Democrats. To me, these kinds of issues don't belong on a federal stage to begin with.


I also think the playing field being too big for these kinds of issues are why we see crap like this with the NRA vs. the games industry. The NRA exists largely to operate on a federal level. The video game industry is fighting for the kinds of regulatory issues (ratings, etc..) that should never have been under federal purview to begin with. Both represent a threat to those looking for more govermental and less private power, a federal goverment that both wants to disarm the population, and also be able to make sweeping rulings about what kind of media people can and cannot choose to consume throughout the entire country. Both are fighting differant sides of the same thing, but right now the NRA in seeking to defend itself is trying to deflect criticism onto a popular boogie man that's basically fighting on a level it should never have been engaging at. I think the NRA is very much involved in "kick the outsider" as much as anything.

Of course as I mentioned before, I also think half the problem is the NRA is far too defensive here. It's trying to deflect criticism away from itself by presenting something else as being more dangerous. In reality the NRA should be going a bit more offensive, and less politically correct, pretty much coming out and saying "you know, we defend the right to have guns specifically because we need guns to kill people, specifically people like idiots in washington that attack free speech rights and try and disarm the populance. The whole point of being armed is so nobody will be defenseless before this crap". Not politically correct at all, but it gets right to the point of things, and is totally accurate.
 

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See, this is hilarious. The NRA probably don't delve extremely deep into the internet.

Trust me NRA. You have no concept of "the filthiest form of pornography".

I've seen some shit...

Seriously though...go fuck yourself NRA. I'd make a serious, thorough argument as to why they're wrong, but I know damn well nobody's gonna listen. I've practically given up by this point, it doesn't matter what we do, if every videogamer were to donate to the funeral funds of those affected by sandy hook, if every videogamer turned up and yelled abuse, the media's response would be the damn same, more pointed fingers at things that have no certain link to it.
 

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"Isn't fantasizing about killing people as a way to get your kicks really the filthiest form of pornography?"

Oh really... and what about targets at gun ranges being shaped like the human body?

Fucking hypocrites.
 

darksakul

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Fuck you NRA. I though we had a agreement here, I support your rights if you support mine.

What a way to go, you go to the dark side and find a scape goat, and not just any scape goat you decide to be a Hypocrite and attack gaming. And you go and say its filthy porn? Well when you accidentally hit a pal with friendly fire in a video game, your pal re-spawns, they me piss at you but they get over it. In real life friendly fire means your pal is aline no longer.

Really this is a low ball tactic, honestly I should not be surprised since the NRA also attacked TV, Movies and books in the past.