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Isn't it exactly the other way around?Nouw said:
We survive on procreation and you need to put at least something out to do it.
Violence against humans doesn't help us survive, if there wasn't any violence you would never even need to use violence to protect your life. If you kill/hurt someone to protect yourself, you decrease his chances of survival, so it's even anyway.
Christ, I sound like a goddamn hippie.
because we live in a puratin/christan based society nudity, even non sexual nudity, is perceived as evil, our culture is so steeped in it that it pervades even our society today.
hell even in catholic grade school, we were taught that nudity was a sin and wrong etc by the old 90 year old nuns that still taught.
now days the crusade is slowly turning towards violence, hell i read on another forum one woman i assume said that todays games are filled with pornography and violence in a discussion on the ca video games law. and more and more the champions of safe and healthy children want to tell us all what we can play with bans and laws and alot of beating the drum for the uninformed masses.
gfx are getting better and maybe one day we will be to the point that god of wars and other games get so real that it is disgusting, but we are pretty far off that scale yet. i mean i never got turned on by a video game girl or by the few games that have had "sex" scenes, the ones in dragon age were pretty laughable, ditto for mass effect 2, where the me1 one was sorta sexy it did not show any more than a daytime soap. but the vast majority of nudity in games is just cartoonish. certainly there are no hardcore graphic sex in any of the games i have played.
unless your importing the hardcore japan games which i am sure none of these people decrying sex and violence in video games have ever seen or heard of, then most of them are talking out their asses. and most people outside japan have never played them, you certainly cannot goto your local gamestop or walmart and get those games. heavy rain in jp had a graphic rape scene in it and that was totally removed from the game outside jp.
as gfx improve could be be in for some trouble down the road? sure. but i never saw anything in a game that came off as omg real violence, most if it is over the top like in a gow, most of it is toned down in game to some blood splatters in the vast majority of fps games, which is about as far off real as you can get when you shoot someone in the face or put a shogun blast into someones gut.
hell even in catholic grade school, we were taught that nudity was a sin and wrong etc by the old 90 year old nuns that still taught.
now days the crusade is slowly turning towards violence, hell i read on another forum one woman i assume said that todays games are filled with pornography and violence in a discussion on the ca video games law. and more and more the champions of safe and healthy children want to tell us all what we can play with bans and laws and alot of beating the drum for the uninformed masses.
gfx are getting better and maybe one day we will be to the point that god of wars and other games get so real that it is disgusting, but we are pretty far off that scale yet. i mean i never got turned on by a video game girl or by the few games that have had "sex" scenes, the ones in dragon age were pretty laughable, ditto for mass effect 2, where the me1 one was sorta sexy it did not show any more than a daytime soap. but the vast majority of nudity in games is just cartoonish. certainly there are no hardcore graphic sex in any of the games i have played.
unless your importing the hardcore japan games which i am sure none of these people decrying sex and violence in video games have ever seen or heard of, then most of them are talking out their asses. and most people outside japan have never played them, you certainly cannot goto your local gamestop or walmart and get those games. heavy rain in jp had a graphic rape scene in it and that was totally removed from the game outside jp.
as gfx improve could be be in for some trouble down the road? sure. but i never saw anything in a game that came off as omg real violence, most if it is over the top like in a gow, most of it is toned down in game to some blood splatters in the vast majority of fps games, which is about as far off real as you can get when you shoot someone in the face or put a shogun blast into someones gut.
without wanting to sound like a douchy armchair philosopher, thats just the way society is.
I blame religion. Read the Bible or the Qu'uran, and they all speak out about sex, but go into graphic detail of how mashed up your scrotum will be by the time Satan's finished with it, and how fried your cock will be after a nice helping of Smite from god.
I blame religion. Read the Bible or the Qu'uran, and they all speak out about sex, but go into graphic detail of how mashed up your scrotum will be by the time Satan's finished with it, and how fried your cock will be after a nice helping of Smite from god.
Now I see alot of people making connections to religion, something completely understandable, as much as I disagree with it.
I'd just like to add that I'm from Sweden, a country according to the latest figures I saw is composed of 80% atheists. So me and many like me have grown up without religion. To draw furthe parallels, in swedish movies (games from here is very rare at best) nudity is far more common than an american movie from the same year. In my experience brittish movies is also a lot more free of the nudity taboo.
I'd just like to add that I'm from Sweden, a country according to the latest figures I saw is composed of 80% atheists. So me and many like me have grown up without religion. To draw furthe parallels, in swedish movies (games from here is very rare at best) nudity is far more common than an american movie from the same year. In my experience brittish movies is also a lot more free of the nudity taboo.
Have you seen The Witcher 2 trailer? One of them you have Triss and uh... the dwarf... recounting stories of Geralt, and in the dwarf's version there's a woman being tortured and she's topless, anyway. Full frontal!stukov961 said:
...Uh.. I'll excuse myself out
As is the case in my country (sweden) wich is probably why I find this extreme nudity taboo so puzzling.Brombaq said:
Clerks 2 quotes make me smileclockout said:" You know, sometimes I wish I did a little more with my life instead of hanging out in front of places selling weed and shit. Like, maybe be an animal doctor. Why not me? I like seals and shit. Or maybe an astronaut. Yeah. Like, be the first ************ to see a new galaxy, or find a new alien lifeform... and fuck it. And people'd be like, "There he goes. Homeboy fucked a Martian once."EvilMaggot said:Mass Effect 1 & 2alien sex woohoo !
OT: I've never understood why nudity is so taboo compared to violence.
Although, I don't think anything necessarily needs nudity in it to get the point across, whereas most games require violence in it somewhat otherwise our games would all be like Dora the Explorer or Barbie Horse Adventure
Topless =/= full frontal.Wolfram01 said:
Anyway, I have also heard an interview by Totalbiscuit, which can be found here: http://www.cynicalbrit.com/news/the-witcher-2-interview/
In this interview the developers get the question about just this, and says that it wasn't really done right, and as such they are going back to that scene and rework it.
Oh? How about The Sims?Mcface said:
There is a fairly large heap of people that find that game entertaing without any violence, and for the most part the family will grow via procreation. Sure the game might call it WooHoo but anyone with a grain of sex ed could figure that out.