Oblivion; Is it worth it?
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The MGE works great for adding lighting and water effects without being to much of a resource hog, it also allows non standard resolutions (and higher resolutions) to play the game at, and if you have a really powerful computer you can mess around with a few other things, but try much more then that and you are going to see the FPS drop like a rock. Even with my beast of a machine really cranking it up resulted in 7 FPS. Over all the game looks much better, and probably better then vanilla Oblivion, but using high resolution textures and mods to fix the bodies and faces in Oblivion results in the same thing.Signa said:
It's pretty bloody good. If you can, get it on PC. That way you can take advantage of any mods and unofficial patches (the latter of which I use).
It's definitely worth it.
Even more so on PC where you have mods.
I have it for 360, but some time ago I got it for PC so I could get the mods.
Even more so on PC where you have mods.
I have it for 360, but some time ago I got it for PC so I could get the mods.
Well, if you're looking at comparisons, the general thought is that Morrowind is better than Oblivion. However, I've never heard someone say that Oblivion is a bad game in general. If you're talking about the console versions, I haven't really heard anything bad about them. I'd say go for it, especially if you have a PC.
Not that I noticed. I first played it on PS3 and sunk a lot of time into it without noticing any problems. Not to say I don't have gripes with it, but it plays fine on any version. Though the PS3 version does not have the evil lair update so playing evil is not as viable as being good.vato_loco said:
If I had to gripe about one thing it would be the leveling. I wasn't fond of enemies leveling with me in Fallout 3 and I really didn't like it here. But really the stat gains aspect of leveling pissed me off something awful. Simply put it is very possible to screw yourself later in the game. You get a bunch of different skills you can level, then pick a set of major skills. When you get 10 skill ups in major skills you gain 1 character level. Each skill is linked to a stat. When you gain a character level you get to choose 3 stats to raise. The amount you can raise any given stat is dependent on what skill ups (in minor or major skills) you got during that level. If you raise your major skills too much you will gain a level and have poor stat boosts available. If this happens frequently you end up getting weaker as you level because enemies grow at the same rate each level. This isn't to say you have to do perfectly efficient leveling (which feels really grindy when I tried it) but you do need to be getting some solid boosts or you will fall behind.
The main reason I found this to be an issue is the way you choose your major skills. I foolishly started the game with a combat heavy character in mind and chose lots of combat skills like blocking, archery, weapon skills, and some stealth for sneak attacks. So I plod on and level up very quickly when suddenly at level 9 I noticed combat was becoming very difficult to the point that by level 11 I could not win at all, ever. I did a bit if research and found the problem was indeed leveling too fast gave me poor stat growth. So I make a new character (some 15+ hours of sodding around and exploring down the tubes) and take a different approach. I aimed for a more efficient leveling plan and leveled much slower, but I did get stronger and could keep up or out pace the enemies. The thing I didn't like was having to plan skill ups. Having to count how many blocking skill ups I got + the number of athletics skill ups + any armor skill ups I got to total 10 so I can get my +5 endurance at next level was tedious. I just wanted to play the game not be an accountant. The idea of having to plan your levels to at least some extent in order to play the game was what really turned me off.
Other gripes are minor in comparison but are worth mentioning. I had one heck of a time making a non-lizard/no-cat person look not hideous. The faces felt too weird to me. Even the cat race looks really goofy to me. Though you won't really be looking at your face much so it was very minor but I do obsess over little stuff like that, so grain of salt and all that jazz. The towns felt very empty, not nearly enough npcs to feel populated. The social mini-game gets old fast though it is really easy. The dialog options are not really choices as much as topics that get you information. There is no real sense of your character actually saying anything which is a downer for this RP lover. Voice acting is limited in variance. Heard one human male you've heard em all, except Patrick Stewart who was around for maybe 10 minutes. The weight limit is strict (a warning more than a gripe), hit it and you can't move. I could think of more if I tried but it has been a while since I played and I don't see myself going back.
One other note is that the create your own spell feature can seriously break the game.
To be fair, I know that mods (on PC) can fix many of the game's issues. Personally if I don't like the base game it really isn't worth my time. I should not have to mod a game to make it playable.
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I never played the game with mods (just to be clear) and I did not find myself a fan of it. It was far from unplayable or being terrible, but it was a sandbox game that forced me to play a certain way that felt really grindy. Either mod it or leave it.
I'm just quoting this part, but I did read all the post.hyzaku said:
I've been searching around and I've seen a lot of complaints about the PS3 version crashing and bugging and doing weird stuff. It's not weird, I mean, at the time, not many people knew how to effectively program for the PS3. But reading about how you have to put thought on the leveling up process.... that doesn't sound like my cup of tea.
Thank you very much for posting that Morrowind link! I've been meaning to mod it for ages but never really could be assed to actually do anything about it. That was a nifty thread. And by Blind Io, does it look awesome.Signa said:
As for the question in the OP: depends. I don't really like the game. I've bought it for both PC and PS3 but I never got more than 5 or 6 hours in before walking away in disgust. So much squandered potential. I recommend Daggerfall or Morrowind if you want some Elder Scroll games.
Oblivion is not very good. Animations are bad, conversations feels like talking to a robot, dialogues are simple and stilted and I don't really care for the main plot. Oh, and the inventory system is a joke (that can be modded to actually be functional.)
If you decide to play it I recommend getting it on the PC as that will allow you to correct a lot of design flaws and even make it a pretty game.
People tell me its deep and worth playing, I've never really gotten into it. The combat is horribly boring. "left click, dodge, left click, dodge. Magic attack, dodge, left click...." repeat for the entire game...
World feels kinda empty, even though there are a ton of NPCs. When I play bioware games I don't get this same feeling, heck, I don't get that same feeling from Fallout 3/New Veg.
People claim these mystical mods make it awesome, yet I've never seen anyone suggest one in particular.
I beg of someone, PLEASE tell me different, show me the light. I have a sickness that troubles me when people have fun playing a video game that is supposed to be GOTY etc and I can't even have a wee bit of fun playing it.
World feels kinda empty, even though there are a ton of NPCs. When I play bioware games I don't get this same feeling, heck, I don't get that same feeling from Fallout 3/New Veg.
People claim these mystical mods make it awesome, yet I've never seen anyone suggest one in particular.
I beg of someone, PLEASE tell me different, show me the light. I have a sickness that troubles me when people have fun playing a video game that is supposed to be GOTY etc and I can't even have a wee bit of fun playing it.
The only mixed opinions I ever heard about Oblivion was weather or not is was as good as Morrowind, regardless of if you feel Morrowind was better or not, Oblivion is still a must play.
oh, and Horse armor for the win.
oh, and Horse armor for the win.
Just a word of warning: those mods eat resources like a mofo. I had a 8800GT that couldn't run it at my customary 1920x1080 settings, and at 1366x768, it was just barely playable (~15 FPS is my guess). Now I'm on a GTX470, and at 1920x1080, its only slightly more playable than it was with the lower resolution with the older card.teh_gunslinger said:
I didn't use any to fix the repetitive combat, but I have the Darnified UI that makes the menu system a lot more functional, a Togglable Quantity Prompt mod that allows me to instantly select 1 or all in a stack of items by holding Ctrl or Shift (a feature that was present in Morrowind that got taken out for some unknown reason) and a Menu Escape mod that lets me end conversations, leave menus and answer "yes" to most dumb questions the game asks you by pressing r-click or space. It makes the game flow so much better than having to fumble around for the exit buttons.Ossian said:
I also have Zumbs Lockpicking mod to change the lockpicking system to be closer to Morrowind because that damn minigame gets old after a while. There is also the Persuasion Overhaul mod I installed for the same reason because that minigame was unbearable.
If you want to get around the lame combat without searching for mods, just get a dagger, Asura's Star and put Drain 100HP for 1 second, Soul Trap 1 second, and Weakness to Magicka 100% for 1 second and you will own anything that stands in your path. Each strike compounds on the last, and daggers have the highest attack speed. The soultrap effect will also double with each strike and that will allow you to keep the dagger charged.
Get it, its a great game, but beware the s**** character leveling system, it will screw you right over unless you read a guide first, only major flaw in the game.