ODST reactions

Smituta

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Well, did a quick search and didn't see any ODST thread since Sept. 24, so ...

How do ya'll feel about it? Hoping for an objective calling-to-terms of its successes and failures here, not some fanboy fellatio session, nor a hater roast. As for me ..

Gameplay: while its hard to detract a game like Halo for its majority-wins console FPS adroitness, I felt that the gameplay was far too familiar to be worth a bother. The overworld hub map is basically a Halo game with unacceptably sparse combat, and a Halo game stripped of its combat is like a tofu hotdog: incredibly unsatisfying. The visor added underwhelmingly little to the whole experience, useless for the most part except for finding the next clue. It seemed to be taking a page out of the Metroid Prime playbook, but it forgot to add environmental interaction and, well, anything fun. The vehicle portions were probably the best part, due mostly to invincible AI gunners.

Visuals: pretty par for the Halo course. The game looks slightly better than Halo 3, but far fewer interesting environments to play in. I personally felt the entire city of New Mombassa felt incredibly dead, and not in the hastily-abandoned way Bungie wanted. The whole thing (especially the hub) felt like a Fischer Price plastic playground, and the odd flashing police car or burnt-out warthog merely felt like very shallow window dressing. In a post-GTAIV world, it takes a lot to make a city feel lived in and real, and Bungie failed pretty spectacularly here.

Story: This, I feel, is the game's biggest failing. Sure, on paper the story seems to work: good voice actors going through the motions of what should be a very solid C-grade sci-fi military story. But in execution, the game was just incredibly clunky, uninspiring, and dull. The characters, for all their animation, looked ill suited for a serious world and storyline. The actors, while delivering decent performances, had some pretty terrible gung-ho jargon-filled dialogue. The "romance" between Dare and Buck was so incredibly trite as to be borderline offensive. And all of the other characters are one-note cliches. By the time I found myself underground fighting through endless identical corridors looking for Section 8, the "big reveal" was so absurdly stupid and ultimately pointless that I could barely stand finishing the game. In the end, the game was a collection of good voice work marred by a terribly vapid story, generic characters, and a hub world detective story that was heavy on style but empty on substance. For Christ's sake Bungie, fire Joe Staten and find someone who can actually tell a goddamn story worth hearing. Oh, and the audio logs hidden throughout the game tell yet another mundane story, with the added benefit of insanely over-the-top radio actors.

Multiplayer: Bungie created matchmaking with Halo 2. To release ODST without matchmaking is unforgivable. I never owned Halo 3 and so I don't have a list full of Halo fanatics to play ODST with. Gears of War 2 can do matchmaking for Hoard, but Bungie can't bother doing it for ODST? This makes an otherwise interesting mode a more or less non-issue, because I won't be playing it. Way to utterly drop the ball, Bungie.

Overall: an incredibly pedestrian game that would likely be lambasted were it not for the Halo name. A unique premise and story set-up give way to more repetitive Halo run-and-gun and a pointless, dumb, annoyingly shallow story. With a multiplayer that fails to meet even the most fundamental criteria for a post-2007 release, I'll never know if the game was worth keeping. Hello eBay.

Can't wait for the ZP review.
 

ObadiahBlack

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A resounding "Meh". Wasn't thrilled at all, and worst of all: I knew that that reaction was what I'd feel. I understand that some people might like it, but I wasn't one of them.
 

Vrex360

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I liked this game. A lot. There were some good ideas thrown in and it took an interesting spin on the overarching Halo story line and it worked, I missed the elites of course but with the addition of 'Sadie's Story' and Firefight mode combined with the rather nice way the plot unfolds gave it a nice umph in my own opinion. So I'm afraid I actually have to disagree with pretty much all of your points here, this isn't a reflection of bias I just liked the game and found it far more enjoyable than you did so I respectfully disagree*.

[sub]Unless this is you again Joobnook!! In which case shame on you, I was just enjoying the idea of a Halo title not be swamped with Halo Hate. But if this is not Joobnook, just some every man then I disagree but respect your opinion[/sub]
 

Corkydog

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I recognize good intentions when I see it, but really? Another thread about this game?

Getting to the review, it's well stated and I would agree for the most part with everything you said. In my opinion, Halo peaked in the last level of the first game, then stayed level through most of the second, then fell fairly steadily through the third. At least they tried something new this time...

Also, welcome to the Escapist, and I realize that a lot of other games have many threads stating the same thing endlessly, but I am just bitter because I thought I saw the last of Halo after the third installment.
 

somerandomguy76

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I think the best thing about the game was the return of a health bar. How I've missed that... Played pretty much the same as H3 though. Maybe a little harder.

The multiplayer is lots of fun in split-screen with a few buddies. Give that a shot if you can.
 

TaborMallory

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Not worth $60. Whatever Bungie says, it's still a fucking expansion. Though, I'll admit: firefight looks like a lot of fun with friends.

Smituta said:
Is ... is this the internet? Complete sentences ... no insinuations about my homosexuality ... where am I?
Hehe... welcome to The Escapist, my friend. You're safe here as long as you follow the guidelines.
 

newguy77

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Basically didn't care (about ODST), and for future reference there is a section of the forums for game reviews and I believe there is a how-to thread for them too.
 

Smituta

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Is ... is this the internet? Complete sentences ... no insinuations about my homosexuality ... where am I?

To those that liked the story: ... how? I mean, really. The story felt like it would make a really dull episode of any sci-fi TV show you could imagine. Just all-around ho-hum. I mean, I don't care for the Halo story since the third level of Halo 2 (the Brutes are just so ... uninspired), but Bungie finally has a chance to tell a story in the Haloverse without Master Chief, and they choose a cast from a Saturday morning cartoon to tell a story of approximately zero impact? Really, the story doesn't even "TELL" anything until you meet up with Dare, and then it's a one-two punch of levels before the game is over. You rescue the engineer, and what? It's a prequel to Halo 2 and 3, so we KNOW it didn't change a damn thing ...
 

tangylaser

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the story was fine they amount of game play they put into didn't make it feel like it was worth 60 bucks all their pretty much is, is getting recon and firefight so just go to a friends house that was dumb enough to buy it
 

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Smituta said:
Is ... is this the internet? Complete sentences ... no insinuations about my homosexuality ... where am I?
We aren't 4chan.

Just make sure you familiarize yourself with the different boards and don't start a flame war or troll. As long as you are half decent, we will not screw around with you.

Also, familiarize yourself with the Quote button.

And welcome to the Escapist. Watch the for the falling hammers and avoid Halo, religion, versus, communism/socialist, and American politics threads.
 

Stalk3rchief

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You should have looked harder, this is the third ODST post this since Saturday, and this month alone has yielded at least five.

OT:I haven't played it, and won't ever give it a chance. The live action trailer was ok, other than that the reviews I've read and footage I've watched is an utter disgrace.
I know, so many halo fans argue over the difficulty, but I'm not a Halo fan. As a video game, it's bad. I couldn't give two shits if it's a good halo game.
 

Thaius

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Sigh...

A detailed review, so much better than your average anti-Halo rant, but still just whining about Halo. It was obvious from the review that you weren't a fan of Halo in the first place, so obviously the only reason you would write this review would be to further spread your dislike of it (a point driven home by your expressed desire to see the game reviewed (a.k.a. ripped apart) by Yahtzee). I thank you, at least, for doing so with a detailed, if in the end kind of typical, review.
 

Smituta

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Thaius said:
Sigh...

A detailed review, so much better than your average anti-Halo rant, but still just whining about Halo. It was obvious from the review that you weren't a fan of Halo in the first place, so obviously the only reason you would write this review would be to further spread your dislike of it (a point driven home by your expressed desire to see the game reviewed (a.k.a. ripped apart) by Yahtzee). I thank you, at least, for doing so with a detailed, if in the end kind of typical, review.
Au contraire, my good sir, I was quite the Halo fan. I enjoyed the first game immensely, even read the first three novels. I was somewhat disappointed with Halo 2 but I still played it a ton. I was living outside the US when Halo 3 was released and played it only recently, and felt a distinct lack of progress in the series' ability to tell a story or paint the Covenant in anything but cartoonishly broad strokes. I guess I am the bitter Halo fan that laments that the fun and light-hearted original has become this military-heavy self-serious game that produces a sub-par noir detective story but still somehow manages both critical and commercial acclaim.
 

Thaius

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Smituta said:
Thaius said:
Sigh...

A detailed review, so much better than your average anti-Halo rant, but still just whining about Halo. It was obvious from the review that you weren't a fan of Halo in the first place, so obviously the only reason you would write this review would be to further spread your dislike of it (a point driven home by your expressed desire to see the game reviewed (a.k.a. ripped apart) by Yahtzee). I thank you, at least, for doing so with a detailed, if in the end kind of typical, review.
Au contraire, my good sir, I was quite the Halo fan. I enjoyed the first game immensely, even read the first three novels. I was somewhat disappointed with Halo 2 but I still played it a ton. I was living outside the US when Halo 3 was released and played it only recently, and felt a distinct lack of progress in the series' ability to tell a story or paint the Covenant in anything but cartoonishly broad strokes. I guess I am the bitter Halo fan that laments that the fun and light-hearted original has become this military-heavy self-serious game that produces a sub-par noir detective story but still somehow manages both critical and commercial acclaim.
I will admit that the story wasn't amazing, though I really wasn't expecting much from that aspect in the first place, to be honest. This wasn't one of the rings, it was New Mombasa, so I knew there wouldn't be any mysterious forerunner artifacts that we didn't hear about in the other games, and I knew the Covenant wouldn't get any more focus than 2 gave them. I did think they did some interesting stuff with it, and with that I was impressed. But I loved the New Mombasa sections: yes, the enemies were sparse, but the atmosphere was so different from past Halo games and the gameplay so much more strategic (seeing as how you would get killed much more easily than in previous games: at least on Heroic). I will admit, I'm one of those people thatn ever stopped liking Halo: sure, 2 and 3 weren't as good as the first, but after the brilliant story of the first one (I thought, at least), I couldn't really expect them to keep that up anyway.

Point being, I loved ODST: I thought it was only comparable to the campaign of the first game in its quality. And I must admit, Firefight is fun.

Though admittedly, I move back to Final Fantasy pretty quickly.
 

Vanguard_Ex

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I quite liked it. I think I've about had value for money, it was a worthwhile purchase. And firefight is really fun with some friends once you've got into it.
 

FallenJellyDoughnut

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This should be in User Reviews. Anyway, it was a really short, unsatasfying Halo experience

BTW, Anyone selling flameshields?
 

Dealin Burgers

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Well I liked it.

Honestly though, your review read fairly badly. Your creative in your choise of wording, but gave no evidence or basis for your opinions. If you swapped out "Halo 3: ODST" for any other game, no-one would notice.