Therumancer said:
I entirely disagree, nobody is forced to use the streetpass feature or check what they have picked up from strangers.
It is completely irrelevant if users are forced to use it or not. The bottom line is that those who use it on a daily basis have been exposed unwillingly to a lot more crude and sick images that go beyond your standard doodle of a dick and boobs drawing.
You cannot say "if you don't want it don't use it" it's a bullshit excuse and only serves to inadvertently defend the people who have abused the system to such a point that Nintendo has to get rid of it.
What's more this is a feature people paid for
Swapnote is completely free. When you buy a 3DS, you are not paying for swapnote. You are paying for the hardware. If I wanted to, I could of decided to
never have Swapnote operable on my system.
Having swapnote and all of it's features is not a right given to you when you purchase a 3DS. It's a privilege. You abuse it, you lose it.
the company has no right to remove it at a later date for any reason, unless perhaps if they do so through a full product recall and refund.
You want to find me their Terms of Service where it specifically states that the Nintendo has absolutely zero rights to remove or add features on it's own hardware? Because I'm pretty sure in every single ToS ever made there is something in there that explicitly states that by clicking/signing "I agree" you allow Nintendo or some other company to change their services or policies at a whim.
As far as Nintendo getting into hot water, oh well, that's part of their business,
and "part of their business" is to avoid getting into hot water. So this point is invalid.
maybe they should think the features of their products through better for the next generation. That said, I do not honestly think they can get into much trouble for it, just receive a lot of negative press, which is the bottom line.
You like to talk about "business as usual" but clearly you have no idea how horribly bad press can affect a company. Sorry, but removing a feature is a lot more safer, than being accused of having a feature that allows for pornographic and disgusting material to be sent out to unsuspected people.
Especially in Nintendo's case where they are very keen on keeping the image of a family company.
Also for the record pornography is a touchier subject than a lot of people think in a legal sense.
Bullshit. If some kid is being sent pictures of a real person's dick, then it stands to reason that it is sending porn to not only an unsuspected person, but it's being sent to a minor.
Especially when a user commented earlier stating that swapnote was beginning to be used by pedophiles to coerce children into sending them nudes in return for unobtainable Pokemon.
By definition all "pornography" is illegal, however what most people call porn is not actually porn in the legal sense. Indeed for something to be labeled porn it needs to be reviewed (item by item, it can't be done broadly) and be found to be "offensive and without any redeeming value", the whole "without redeeming value" part is the real clincher
Bullshit X20. Do you think parents are going to give a rat's ass about the "true" definition of pornography when little Shantae shows her dad some unwashed pleeb's cock that was sent to her via swapnote? I can tell you right now there is zero redeeming values for anything of that sort. Especially to the person receiving it.
the fact that artistic value is protected.
As an artist myself, I'm going to tell you right now that the term "artistic integrity" used so much nowadays that it's simply a buzzword used to cover up any sort of stupid horseshit to prevent the creators of such content to get away with their garbage without having to adequately defend themselves.
If you want to be taken seriously in this discussion don't you even bother bringing up artistic "integrity" into something like this. Because last time I checked sleazy pictures being sent to unwilling recipients is not "artistic integrity"
This is why so many "porno movies" have some kind of banal plotline attached, because that pathetic plotline, message, or point, can be potentially used to mount a defense based on artistic integrity.
And if I'm not mistaken if you want to watch a porn movie, You have to actually put in the effort to find and watch said movie.
Last time I checked I don't boot up my laptop, and instantly get slammed with some dude ramming his traffic cone sized cock into some mouse hole sized pussy.
Attempts to ban nudity and exposure in a general sense have failed this includes the nudity of children (despite some nasty CP battles, most blanket "victories" there wind up getting overturned under serious challenge). After all you can trace artistic nudes back to the ancient greeks and romans (and even before), and even get in the face of the church by pointing to some of the pictures of nude, anatomically correct, cherubs, and similar things. The point here being that a picture of some guy's junk or a naked lady is not considered pornographic, after all you could leave a book full of nudes open in the art section of a library and it would be legally unquestionable (though most libraries try and prevent such things for PR reasons).
Thanks for the unneeded history lesson.
Now, exposing oneself to create a public disturbance is a crime, and it can be argued that this is what your seeing with the 3DS, but even so your dealing with something less extreme than a streaker or flasher running around, especially seeing as unlike those cases you have the option o simply not use your streetpass if you don't want to, or to just not look at messages from people you don't know.
This is great.
I don't care how you sugar coat your actual message with facts and history text walls.
In the end you are literally defending the people who have abused this feature to the point where Nintendo had to take it down.
You are defending them by going the route of victim blaming. Putting all of the fault on unsuspecting people who wanted to use swapnotes to send silly doodles to their friends. Not get some greaseball's cock selfie.
That's right. Tell that in the courts. It's not John
should've sent his dick on Swapnote, but let's be honest here, maybe the real fault is with Allie. She didn't
have to use swapnote in the first place. So really, it's all her fault that she saw the dick in the first place.
That's literally the same line of rational used against rape victims.
They aren't saying it's not wrong to rape, but you know, she/he didn't
have to go to that party and enjoy it like normal human beings.
It was really
their fault for looking so sexy to the rapist in question. Therefore they were kind of asking for it in the first place.
At the end of the day there really isn't any practical way to hold Nintendo liable for this,
Glad you admitted your own lawsuit shpiel was useless from the start.
the entire issue doubtlessly being pantywaists who are willing to take things away from people who paid for them due to outraged complaints.
Yeah. Fuck Nintendo for disallowing pedophiles from using their service to promote their own sick fantasies on minors.
They really are some of the biggest chicken necks in the industry.
not simply backing down every time some parents group or whatever gets a bee in it's bonnet.
Ignoring the fact that the main demographic for Nintendo are parents, let's just talk about the fact that you implied a minor being sent sexual images is nothing more but a bee in a bonnet to you.
Not to mention the most important principle (which is my primary concern beyond all of this) that if you buy something, you have a right to it, I do not agree with the ability of a company to take back things they have already sold, for any reason, whenever they want to.
And once again, the ability to use swapnote at it's fullest isn't a right. It's a privilege.
I will repeat it again. You abuse it. You lose it.
To me the reasons are not important
Then in this case you have no standing in this argument.
Besides, honestly, how many people with a 3DS out of the entire body of users are actually using these things to send pictures of their junk or whatever?
Enough people for Nintendo to take action.
See here is the thing. A single person can have 100 registered users on their 3DS. (and by register I mean, they get online at the same time as the person with said FC and get "registered" together)
I can take a picture of my vagina and send it instantly to all recipients. That's just one person. Multiply that by a couple hundred, and you got a huge fucking problem on your hands.
It's a small, vocal group of people being upset with an even smaller group of trolls. I have no sympathy.
Completely irrelevant. If Nintendo were to do nothing and the news media outlets were to get a hold of such a story, Nintendo would be in absolute shambles. Especially when they report that this "vocal minority" has reported the issue to Nintendo and they completely ignore it. Landing them in the spot of underage porn enablers.
