If you're not quite certain if something is gonna sound dickish I think it's a safe bet that it should not be posted.Generic Gamer said:See it's just not that easy. There are quite a few weasel words on this website that are used to mean a more serious insult. For example calling someone 'ignorant', is that an insult? Because it's not like it's often used correctly on here, it's used as an underhanded stand in for something else.Sober Thal said:I think you just shouldn't call people names. Should be fine then.
I mean, 'don't be a jerk' is a nice idea but you have a wide range of people here from all over the world and with differing levels of...well...social ability. I'm willing to bet that we have different ideas of what being a dick is.
You are. There's a difference between ignorance and irritability. If someone honestly doesn't know something, calling someone an idiot for their lack of knowledge is rude. Lacking knowledge isn't.Generic Gamer said:Example 1: someone says something that I legitimately consider to be stupid. Not lacking in data, not overlooking a school of thought, but genuinely stupid. That person is being rude to people in a passive aggressive way. I call them an idiot.
Who's the dick?
Depends on the context of the wording. Debate happens all of the time of the forums. Whether or not it's disrespectful will depend entirely on the language.Example 2: In every thread involving transexuality on this website there will be quite a few people who don't know much about it. They'll be invited to ask questions, but if they ask what is deemed to be 'the wrong question' they'll be called ignorant. Now where I come from calling someone ignorant is a slightly more passive aggressive way of calling them stupid. Since this isn't real ignorance and is closer to lacking specialised knowledge, but the other person was insulted and called the guy out...
Who's the dick?
Persons. Wording is key.Example 3: Misanthropes, dicks or legitimate philosophers?
Calling someone a troll for any reason. One can easily report and say nothing. Actually making an effort to post to insult, demean, or aggressively address is a way of bringing down the site. If you really want to take an active stance, PM a mod. Starting an argument on a thread, intentionally or otherwise, will just get you reported along with the person whose being called a troll.Example 4: Calling someone a troll for disagreeing with you, the work of a dick?
This seems like as good a time as ever to ask these questions.Kuliani said:Here is the only thread to be allowed to discuss the new forum rules.
FAQ:
Q: QQ
A: We know.
Q: No really. QQ! I'm crying and complaining! Get it? Two Q's look like crying eyes?!
A: Yes, we get it.
Q: Why do we need new rules?
A: Because the forums had been slowly becoming a less inviting place to be. The new rules are in place to provide tools to the mods to allow them to get rid of the jerks and keep you nice people!
Q: What about the posts made BEFORE the new rules went live?
A: Those posts will be judged under the old Posting Guidelines. You will not be judged under the new rules until you have posted after the new rules went live.
That'll clear up the Adblock confusion of late.Further, discussions instructing or otherwise advocating the circumvention of The Escapist's advertisements, security mechanisms, media protections or similar facilities will not be tolerated.
That should clear up our Piracy policy.Similarly, posts including, advocating, or linking to illegal or adult material are a very quick way to end your time as part of The Escapist community.
That's true. I'm fairly sure that the rules aren't nearly as subjective as he thinks they are, though.SirBryghtside said:Or maybe he's just pointing out what he believes to be a flaw in the rules, in other words constructive criticism.lacktheknack said:Is your post dedicated to making someone else feel like crap?Pararaptor said:Woah there, what new rules?
They seem a bit... vague & subjective.
Then you're being a jerk. You'll know it when you see it.
To be the first to quote the new guidelines:
Constructive criticism is welcomed; negativity for its own sake is not.
1. That is subjective to the actual post.ProtoChimp said:This seems like as good a time as ever to ask these questions.Kuliani said:Here is the only thread to be allowed to discuss the new forum rules.
FAQ:
Q: QQ
A: We know.
Q: No really. QQ! I'm crying and complaining! Get it? Two Q's look like crying eyes?!
A: Yes, we get it.
Q: Why do we need new rules?
A: Because the forums had been slowly becoming a less inviting place to be. The new rules are in place to provide tools to the mods to allow them to get rid of the jerks and keep you nice people!
Q: What about the posts made BEFORE the new rules went live?
A: Those posts will be judged under the old Posting Guidelines. You will not be judged under the new rules until you have posted after the new rules went live.
1) How little content on a post can there be without getting in trouble?
2) Does it not count if a picture has words on it already or does that still count as low content?
3) If you get a warning are you no longer eligible for matrix badges?
Well, why not elaborate on the sentiment you intended to share? I mean, I know you're not stupid. There's plenty of thought behind the single sentence you've arrived at that you could use.Pararaptor said:It also leaves me uncomfortable, not knowing what I can & can't post.Erana said:Well, yes, its vague, but people for the most part should have an idea of what not to post. I generally trust their judgement, and the Escapist having the rules be more subjective leaves fewer people trying to justify being inappropriate through loopholes.Pararaptor said:Woah there, what new rules?
They seem a bit... vague & subjective.
And I have to type out filler now, seeing as the low-content rule has been expanded so I can't just write a single sentence in a post, despite that being all I want to say.
Low content generally means posts like 'lol', 'this', 'first!' and image only posts. If you can sum up your opinion in one sentence then by all means go ahead.moretimethansense said:Regarding short posts, What if I make my point succinctly; do I need to make pointless filler to expand my word count despite the fact that what I intended to say was already said within the first few words of the post?
Do I need to keep writing to avoid wrath about short posts?
Is there an arbitrary minimum?
Must I reiterate my point without cause or reason when my point could have been made with a simple:
"Regarding short posts, What if I make my point succinctly?"
Because as I have demonstrated here all that does is arbitrarily force me to add pointless words where a single sentence would have sufficed.
After all all this seems to do is expand post size without increasing the quality of content.
I mean look at all that up there was any of that really necessary?
My question was asked within the first sentence and right now all I'm doing is nailing the point home for no reason beyond fear of reprisal.
After all my post looks like a long thought out question but at this point it's almost an example of passive aggression.
If I do this it makes it more likely that someone may ignore the point I am trying to make and attack the way I'm making it.
I wonder, how long I could make this post before someone complained in writing?
Well that's good to know,Sevre90210 said:Low content generally means posts like 'lol', 'this', 'first!' and image only posts. If you can sum up your opinion in one sentence then by all means go ahead.moretimethansense said:Snip
Direct thine gaze gaze upwards. ^-^Mechsoap said:how short is an comment allowed to be?
Scroll up to the top of this page, I answered it theremoretimethansense said:Well that's good to know,Sevre90210 said:Low content generally means posts like 'lol', 'this', 'first!' and image only posts. If you can sum up your opinion in one sentence then by all means go ahead.moretimethansense said:Snip
Also what is the policy about piracy?
Obviously linking to Torrents/Cracking sites are right out but what else would result in mod reprisal?