OFFICIAL PS4 SPECS

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Headdrivehardscrew

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Instead, they're blowing more money they don't have on tech they can't afford to sell. Sure, the hardcore tech folks will be happy. But from a financial perspective, this is ludicrous. Even if they sell this thing at $600, they're going to be making a loss. They're actively throwing money down the drain, just so that they can say they're at the cutting edge of technology. Just like their TV engineers and their 4K 3D Tvs...
I know a bunch of folks that are 4K ready already... and I take it 4K software will eventually also be more mainstream than it is today... the only 4K material I've seen so far in its pure 4K glory was red eye youtube stuff, but that's bound to change, I take it.

Bear in mind that early adopters do set flags for the market, much as there would be significantly less games if everyone was to second hand buy or outright pirate games.

Then again, if the industry wouldn't have it so ass backwards with, say, those annoying region locks, there would be much less tinkering. I know I would never have gotten into the hardware side of things if it wouldn't be for region locking systems and drives down. I don't think I would have jailbroken my Iphones if Apple would still allow things like Wifi Analyzer on their App Store. The more they pummel you into brainwashed herded bliss, the more some folks feel like tinkering.

I think the specs make a lot of sense. They match with some the predictions we've been making for at least two years now, so I don't think the PS4 is anywhere near overpowered, if it's supposed to stay for seven years (or more). What makes me really happy is that those specs (if true) would allow for all of us to get out of the tunnel vision hell the anæmic RAM specs of both the PS3 and the 360 have gotten us into.

Some people are convinced that proper programming would break the limitations of 256MB/512MB RAM total, but there's only so little you can do to work around not having enough RAM to throw things on screen and at you. Today's consoles are to be considered locked-down PCs, so they need comparable PC specs to work properly. When you run out of RAM or coding around it isn't enough, things are bound to go haywire. I never want to see things like having to follow the breadcrumb trail with constant blocked vision or the PS3 Skyrim debacle just because our consoles of the now were dreamed up when Windows XP was the go-to system of the day. That shit is old, man. Oh, I also wasn't that blown away by megatextures or gigatextures and the constant pop-in of some of the more fast-paced, action-oriented titles of late. That pop-in gets old really soon, as in instantly.

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ResonanceSD said:
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

Sony goes "ooh, look how shiny the specs are"

and then developers have to spend time polishing graphics instead of actually making fun games.

Meanwhile, an average PC is already equalling this. most gaming dedicated machines (like, you know, consoles) are already higher specced than this.

Stavros Dimou said:
comparable to modern high end pcs.
yeah if by comparable you go "look at what we were doing two years ago!" as a way of telling Sony to stop being so stupid.
That has only been true on past consoles because of sony using their own in-house architecture. These are off the shelf pc parts basically so more time can be spent on making the game fun and less time making the game work.

Then you go on to complain because of the decent specs devs will spend too much time polishing graphics, but say the average PC has these specs, contradict much? I know several pc gamers and we are all rocking quad cores still and the relative mid range graphics cards (gtx560ti/660ti), and even if they were in the average pc since last year how many devs have made games that take full advantage of that power? 1 game by my count and it was only released this week. At least now the consoles are rocking similar specs we can expect alot more games to take full advantage. So stop your whining please. You sound like a PC elitist
 

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Meh, I stopped caring about this kind of stuff in the Gamecube era. (Remember the Gamecube? That weak little console that ran RE4, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron, and other games that looked borderline current gen.) What matters isn't the technology, it's what developers do with it.
 

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Will the all-important games be any good? Also, I'm curious about the price range. How much would a PC go for with those specs?
 

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GundamSentinel said:
You'd think PC gamers would be happy that the arcane architecture of the PS3 would be exchanged for something people would be more able to develop for. A new console generation will benefit cross-platform PC games quite a bit, at the very least in he short term. Colour me optimistic.

FieryTrainwreck said:
PS4 represents an enormous step forward for video game graphics. Just because it happens to be through economic imperatives (instead of raw hardware strength) doesn't make it any less so.
Thank you.
Unfortunately the elitists beat the moderates here, I as an almost exclusively PC gamer, am happy about this.

From the Killzone bit I can hope that we may see the end of the muddy brown shooter too, that'd be nice..
 

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Very impressed by the specs but boy is that going to cost a lot.

If Sony release it at a price people consider reasonable for a console, they are going to be taking a massive hit per unit.

This is a real risk for them in the current financial climate. If it fails, it could end up bringing Sony as a whole down.
 

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As consoles continue to get more and more powerful and hi-tech, I can't help but worry the risk of them breaking in any number of ways is going to be higher than ever.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
Ah, yes, but does it have red LEDs?

My PC has red LEDs.

Beat that, Sony.
***** plz, Sony don't settle for Red LEDs.. they go all out for blue ones.

Super shiny blue ones.

OT : Hmmmm, so nothing of surprise was gained from this?
 

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The specs are mostly irrelevant part to a console. Now games.....real games, real footage of gameplay, that is all a care about. They can boast all they want about power, but if all we get are shiny versions of last gen games then whats the point in a new gen console? Off the top of my head, what about a new GT game with full realistic car damage and cockpit view for every car? What about a more open world WW2 shooter that isnt based on corridors. I mean if they can do that with Far Cry 3 and Fallout 3 - why not a WW2 based game in a destroyed german controlled city? Use the power to make games more epic in scale, not just for shinier graphics.
 

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OlasDAlmighty said:
Meh, I stopped caring about this kind of stuff in the Gamecube era. (Remember the Gamecube? That weak little console that ran RE4, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime, Rogue Squadron, and other games that looked borderline current gen.) What matters isn't the technology, it's what developers do with it.
to be honest i always regretted selling my GameCube, it had so many good games on it


Flaery said:
Will the all-important games be any good? Also, I'm curious about the price range. How much would a PC go for with those specs?
If your a good bargain hunter and/or know what your looking for you can get it for anywhere between £400-£600 which is how much the ps4 is likely to cost, but also keep in mind 6-8 months from now that computer will be cheaper but the PS4 will still be at its high price point
 

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Just in response to those who don't think Sony will sell at a loss, they will. None of the console manufacturers sell the consoles for what they cost to make. They sell them at a loss and then recoup the money by having a piece of the profit on every game that gets licenced/sold on the system. It's the way it's worked since the Xbox/PS2 generation at least.
 

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Stavros Dimou said:
8 CORE CPU of x86 architecture
8gb RAM
GRAPHICS CARD WITH GDDR5,176GB/S BANDWIDTH

State of the art,way more powerful than WiiU, comparable to modern high end pcs.
Actually, it's comparable to high-end PCs about 4 years ago. Still great, perfectly awesome, but not modern.

Modern high-end PCs run on CORE, not an APU. Dedicated graphics. My PC, with 2 680s in SLI, i7-3770K @ 4.6, and 32 GB of RAM (totally unnecessary amount, I know) is a high-end machine. It's not even the highest I could get it, it was only about $2k.
 

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ResonanceSD said:
If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.
Actually a lot of us console gamers do care about the horsepower of our black boxes under the Tele, its just most of us prefer to sit on the sofa playing on a big plasma TV, that and the whole "faffing" about with a PC to get the game looking just right irks some of us.

Also of note is the price of entry for bleeding edge PC hardware, I'll leave you with an analogy;
not every petrol head has the money, resources nor inclination to buy and maintain a classic sports car. Same goes with gamers.
 

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I'm surprised the HDD is so small, especially in a world dominated by digital distribution. I thought anything between 500GB and 1TB was about standard for PCs these days, so why not the PS4?

ResonanceSD said:
If console gamers truly cared what their hardware was capable of, they'd buy a pc. Otherwise it's just window dressing which will never affect them because console titles are made for an identical set of SKUs.
Untrue. I'm a self confessed graphics whore and I can neither afford a top of the range PC nor can I be done with all the endless system tweaking needed to run some games. With a console it is (more or less) guaranteed that the game I buy will play on my chosen device.

That said, if either the PS4 or the Nextbox have an edge over the other graphically, I want to know because that's the one I will buy.
 

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So it isn't even better than a high end PC? Then I go with a high end PC. Yeah I cash out more, but I can run simulations (for my career that helps) and gradually upgrade. I was hoping that Sony did something different, unique, but a "high end PC" with a crappy Wii U knock off controler really doesn't sell it to me. Unless there are some great exclusives (and not eternaly delayed like The Last Gardian, which was the reason I was about to buy a PS3) I don't see anything special. A PC, teh Steambox seem better options now for me. At least with the Wii U I play somegames idfferently (and when I care abouthorsepower my PC is still standing).
 

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System memory: 8GB
Video Memory: 2.2GB
CPU: 4x Dual Core AMD64 "Bulldozer" (8 core)
GPU: AMD R10xx
HDD: 160 GB
My PC
System Memory: 4GB (I can upgrade to 32, if I wanted to)
Video Memory: 1 GB
CPU: Quad Core Intel i5
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 450 GTS
HDD: 500 GB

Looks like an upgrade from what I have on my PC (Sans the HDD). BUTby the time the PS4 launches, I could probably upgrade everything of mine to surpass it, and it would cost the same or less than a PS4.
 

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
There are flaws to arguing video games on any site you go to. Hard to find a good debate.

Needless to say, you wouldn't do it on a Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo site. Can't be unbiased. Same for The Escapist, since they have the most elitist PC users on the planet. Steam Forums aren't as bad, and that says something.

Of course, less than 10 posts, the elitists are in at full volume, complaining that the PS4 isn't moddable, run everything 7 years in the future at the tech level of 7 years in the future, AND have a mouse and keyboard.

OT: I'd like to see more launch titles, and of course news on anti used games tech being exploited.
So much this^

I want a good debate and have always wanted one for quite a while now that doesn't simply devolve into "PC's are the master race, the end all to be all", but as we can see the majority on here are PC users with hybrids being few in between which does make it hard to form a debate let alone talk about one console without having the PC involved in it's discussion.

I've also been noticing the main problem coming from the PC crowd and it's to do with always having the bar of expectations from anything gaming set so high that they simply can't be debated with and that presents a massive problem for the future if more people carry on setting the bar to extreme levels without lowering for rational dicussion values.

That and I've noticed over the past year two camps of PC users:

One's that will always hate and blame consoles, spouting at how consoles will always keep them back even though PC only titles can get pushed to certain lengths as long as the devs are actually willing to.

And the other type who literally pigggy back consoles solely to see their own limits stretch while not giving a rats ass about the console that allowed those limits to stretch.

I consider myself a hybrid because I enjoy gaming across different consoles and my first rig is coming to completion but I'm not going to make it my main source of gaming and simply abandon the rest because i'm not setting my expectations bar to a high limit.

As long as I can enjoy the PS4 and Wii U I'll be happy because having fun is what counts and not graphics only in my eyes.