Official Zelda timeline?
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Those dern Ninjas, always beating me to the punch.Tallim said:
Anyway, I will always have a hard time understanding the Zelda timeline. Not even the creators could explain it well enough for me to understand.
I like the timeline, especially split 3, since there are so many ways to interpret what it means by Link fails. It could be that he dies, never acts, refuses to help Zelda, gets trapped in the Temple of Time, fights Ganon to a point where neither of them can best the other, or even Link joins Ganon. There are so many ways that could be the way Link fails causing that line.
I hate them for insulting Link's Awakening.Tallim said:
Other than that, it was kinda..... confusing... really... somewhat funny... but mostly confusing.
Looks like we misunderstood each other.madwarper said:
You are completely right. We/I don't need a timeline at all to enjoy Zelda games. I love them.
But all that thinking about a timeline if one exists is just additional excitement while waiting for the next game. ^^
I just find all the different theories interesting and since everyone has to have an opinion, I think that this one sounds like the most possible one.
One theory said that Majora's Mask actually never happened and that it's all just in Link's head. After Link won against Ganon, he lost Navi. He entered the lost wood to search for her. But as we all know, someone who doesn't have a fairy turns into a Skull Kid if he enters the Lost Woods.
Whole Majora's Mask was just in Links head while turning into a Skull Kid. That's why it's so dark. It also said that the skeleton who teaches you the techniques in Twilight Princess is that Link. The skeleton said he was also a Hero of time. The shield he has looks like the mirror shield in Majora's Mask and if I remember correctly (I'm not 100% sure) you can hear Saria's theme in the background. He is some sort of a skull Kid (I know, far-fetched...).
I know that this theory is probably wrong, but it just amazes me to read all the possibilities that the series brings with its self. Every possible timeline gives us another angle to the series.
To be honest, I hope Miyamoto never reveals the real timeline. The mystery behind it allows for many different and great fan made timelines. Once he reveals the official one, everything will stop being a mystery. It will just be another timeline.
That's why I wrote "until he denies it" in my previous post. I hope he denies it, but doesn't reveal the real one.
Bullshit.
I call such massive bullshit. And I don't even give a damn about any "official" timeline.
It's just... this is, quite literally, impossible.
The Link in Four Swords Adventures is the same Link in the original Four Swords. It's basically outright stated, if I remember correctly. And from what I've seen, that's what most people say.
So yeah. Bullshit. If you could find a more official source for this, as well as a source that such a book exists? I'll be looking for one myself, but I figured if two people search, we can put the nail on the coffin sooner rather than later.
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Not to mention that the Link in Link's Awakening is supposed to be the same one from A Link to the Past. Seriously, who came up with this crap? At the end of ALttP, Link has the Triforce and wishes that the Master Sword is put to rest... forever. You can get the Master Sword in either of the Oracles games (depending on which you play first). What, is that a non-canonical item in the game, or did Link just go "oh, wait, nevermind"?
I call such massive bullshit. And I don't even give a damn about any "official" timeline.
It's just... this is, quite literally, impossible.
The Link in Four Swords Adventures is the same Link in the original Four Swords. It's basically outright stated, if I remember correctly. And from what I've seen, that's what most people say.
So yeah. Bullshit. If you could find a more official source for this, as well as a source that such a book exists? I'll be looking for one myself, but I figured if two people search, we can put the nail on the coffin sooner rather than later.
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Not to mention that the Link in Link's Awakening is supposed to be the same one from A Link to the Past. Seriously, who came up with this crap? At the end of ALttP, Link has the Triforce and wishes that the Master Sword is put to rest... forever. You can get the Master Sword in either of the Oracles games (depending on which you play first). What, is that a non-canonical item in the game, or did Link just go "oh, wait, nevermind"?
Here is the source that such book exists.ZeroMachine said:
http://mynintendonews.com/2011/12/15/nintendo-is-releasing-a-gorgeous-zelda-art-book/
http://kotaku.com/5868322/nintendo-releasing-a-lovely-zelda-art-book/gallery/1
Quoting the site
Alright, fair enough. But where in it did they get the timeline? Or is it all just guess work on early and sketchy translations?BiH-Kira said:
Not to mention another example of a "series encyclopedia"... the Halo Encyclopedia, from what I've read about it, has TONS of errors in regards to established canon. About three reissues later, it's still filled with mistakes.
So... yeah. I'm going to wait until we have a more official translation before I cave and admit it's official.
... And then I'm going to pleasantly ignore it. Because I don't like it in the slightest bit. I have my own timeline. I always felt like that's what people were supposed to do...
Ok, a couple months ago a friend and I were arguing over the Zelda timeline, but neither of us would have expected this answer.
<spoiler=Why there will never be an Official Zelda Timeline>http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/halolz-dot-com-legendofzelda-missinglink.jpg
The Legend of Zelda - Ocarina of Time involved time traveling.Vault101 said:
One the young Link got the Master Sword, one of the 7 wise sealed his soul and body for 7 years so that he will be able to wield the sword.
You win the game as the adult Link.
Now at the end of the game Zelda sends you back in time to relive those lost 7 years. That is where the spited time lines appear.
The first one is where Link goes back in time, knowing the truth about Ganondorf's intentions and prevents his plan from happening.
The second one is with the adult Link. I'm not really sure my self, but it has something to do with a time traveling paradox. The adult Link who had to kill Ganandord wasn't there because Zelda sent him back in time. Link didn't exist in that timeline. So when Ganondorf conquered Hyrule, the Goddesses flooded it to prevent the evil from spreading. That's why the next game in that timeline (Wind Waker) is on small islands and a vast ocean.
The third split is one that I've read for the first time on the article I linked.
It's a timeline where Link actually failed. I don't really know what they mean by fail. There are several options. Link, died, he didn't even try, he tried but couldn't solve some puzzle, the Temple of Time didn't grant him entrance to the Master Sword... I don't know. He simply failed and Ganondorf wins.
@zerobudgetgamer
I love how he was stabbed by the Master Sword.
So wait, Link can fail in defeating Ganondorf in OOT? I guess that explains why he looks like a pig in the games in the Split 3 list.
I was also confused at first two split lists. But then I remembered Link was sent back to his own time after beating Ganondorf in OOT. So I guess it makes sense that the timeline with Adult Zelda would still exist.
I have yet to play Wind Waker though. So I'm not sure what happened that caused the entire world in that game to be flooded.
I was also confused at first two split lists. But then I remembered Link was sent back to his own time after beating Ganondorf in OOT. So I guess it makes sense that the timeline with Adult Zelda would still exist.
I have yet to play Wind Waker though. So I'm not sure what happened that caused the entire world in that game to be flooded.
Having 3 splits instead of two does clear up a lot of plot contradictions, but "Link fails" is a bit too vague an explanation for the third timeline. I'm going to wait until this book's official English release before I make any judgments.
Also, it's a popular theory that Minish Cap and Four Swords take place before Ocarina of Time, but there's almost no evidence that supports that idea. Again, I'll (maybe) believe it when I see it for myself. As I recall, the "official" Metroid timeline that Nintendo Power published was full of holes, so I regard this with a combination of healthy skepticism and an open mind.
Also, it's a popular theory that Minish Cap and Four Swords take place before Ocarina of Time, but there's almost no evidence that supports that idea. Again, I'll (maybe) believe it when I see it for myself. As I recall, the "official" Metroid timeline that Nintendo Power published was full of holes, so I regard this with a combination of healthy skepticism and an open mind.
You could say that about the Metal Gear series, but you wouldn't be playing them canonically. :s(I think someone established a clear canon, though. Haven't looked too much into Metal Gear so I can't say 100%)madwarper said:
Am I the only one that looks at Miyamoto in that comic and thinks, Happy Mask Salesman?Shockolate said:
OT: I fail to see a reason to believe this until Miyamoto himself tells us what the official timeline is.
None of the games in Split 3 refer to the Hero of Time, so the contradiction you're pointing out simply doesn't exist.Revolutionaryloser said:
However, I have one: the opening of A Link to the Past essentially states that Ganon was sealed by the Seven Sages, doesn't it? That means that, logically, it takes place after OoT Adult Link's victory, placing the game firmly in Split 2, not Split 3.