Oh Apple, you bastards.
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Apple's entire business model centers on "user friendly" products (meaning you're just plain not allowed to look under the hood) and "convenience" (meaning fixing something is as 'easy' as just throwing it out and buying another).Versuvius said:
In between those two points is a land called "customer service," which is governed by a giant money-printing machine.
Avoid Macs for your personal or school use.Fbuh said:
Unless you're spending $10k on a Mac workstation, Macs are no better than PCs for video and artwork. Factoring in the MacTax you could have some high end RAM, an all-in-one watercooler and some serious overclocking for a mid range PC and have more performance for a chunk less money.
More importantly, as time passes PCs are much less susceptable to compatability disasters. Or put it another way, my 2004 £1000 base unit still runs fine. It still runs the latest creative software more or less flawlessly (Illustrat/PS CS4, Painter XI etc, some of Photshop's higher animation features cause it pain though) and can still be plugged in to all the various bits of hardware that pass through my hands. Try doing that with a £1000 Mac from 2004...
Of course, if the company you work for wants to buy you a spanking new one every two years, that's different matter.
There was a line from The Big Bang Theory by Sheldon. Something to do with working as an Apple genius even if the use of the word genius was laughable.Kukulski said:
Have to agree with you, people need to drop that "Apple is better for graphic design" horseshit.Mr.Tea said:
Now see, if only Apple didn't dominate the market for MP3 players, because the Zune is honestly a better product. Too bad they're not making them anymore...PoisonUnagi said:Meh, Linux is a great OS in itself but I tend to have major issues with anything that isn't on NT.jck4332 said:
Also...
I win :>
Simple, Windows continue to support stuff for a decent length of time.Erana said:
There is still over a year to go before Microsoft drop official support for XP. XP hasn't been on sale for four years now and anything Microsoft release is still compatable with it. Also, Windows is much easier to create third party work rounds for, so people on older OS don't tend to get shut out quite so abruptly.
Even more importantly, every major update and compatability fix for XP so far has been free. That's the big differenc, install Drivers for X, find you need to install update Y, update Y will be free.
Not that Microsoft don't have their own issues with being dicks, but in that respect they're pretty good.
Sorry there is no master race and if there was it would be the people who enjoy gaming in all forms not elitiest idiots who hurt gaming as a whole.Versuvius said:
Oh and just a heads up so you dont try and insult me for silly accussions I do all gaming PC,Console,Handheld, Whatever
OT: I have never bought a single apple product and prob never will and this should show why.
Yet another reason why Apple is a terrible, money hungry, customer raping company. "Oh I got an idea, let's alter our latest technology slightly by making it a sheet of paper thinner and slapping a camera on it. Then we can market it as 'new' and add $300 to the price tag."
...and that's just the iPod bullcrap. Their computers are worse.
No flaming intended, Apple just grinds my gears.
...and that's just the iPod bullcrap. Their computers are worse.
No flaming intended, Apple just grinds my gears.
I honestly don't see why people are complaining. Their OS is out of date, so they need to buy a new one. This is not surprising to anyone who has owned computers for any extended amount of time. In 2007 Apple was already telling people that they were coming out with a new different OS, so these people faults really were that they bought something on the way out, and they can only blame themselves. The simple fact that the article writer's computer worked for so long on an outdated system is a credit to how well Apple makes its products. As a bonus, he doesn't even have to buy a whole new computer to get the OS. One only needs to buy the OS disc. That's it. Considering that his computer is 4 years old, that's a pretty good deal. Comparatively on a PC, one would not only have to buy the new OS, but new parts in order to ensure that the system would function at all.Versuvius said:
Which leads me to:
While this may be true, let me point out something with broken down PCs vs broken down Macs.Johnnyallstar said:I think this is appropriate at this point.
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Around 2005, my dad, a professional electrician and computer repair man at the CBC (that the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for any of you not from Canada), bought a Windows XP Home OS and combined it with a set of reliable computer systems for my first home computer. It is now 2011, and despite my dad's expert work, the things has hard crashed a few times and has needed quite new parts
Comparatively, in 1998 my dad bought a iMac 3G, more commonly known as the Strawberry Mac. It lasted us until 2010, where at that point it was so old that the parts were falling apart, because it had outlived its expected lifespan. Yet, until the very end of those 12 years, it never had broken down once, and more importantly had been able to do quite a few things that much newer models of other computer OSs were able to do.
My point is that while you do need to buy a whole new Mac when the old one is done, it takes quite a while before that is utterly necessary. This is because Mac hardware and software are specifically designed to match each other and be updated seamlessly, maximizing their capability and stability. Many PCs on the other hand, are an amalgam of parts and programming, meaning that there's always a chance they won't match well, leading to ye olde Blue Screen of Death.
So if the PC is muscle car and only needs parts when it breaks, then it's one whose parts become more and more expensive farther down the road and which may not match the vehicle as a whole, possibly leading to a mass breakdown that can require a full overhaul. The Mac sports car on the other hand, while needing to be replaced completely if it fails, rarely does so, and mostly only if there was a defect with that specific model unit or if it is at the end of it's expected lifespan. Otherwise it only needs a quick tune up that is was designed for, and which is checked by professionals to make sure it works, rather than your average Joe slapping bits together.
I hate to be this guy, I really do... but when I first heard about this, I laughed.
I despise Apple, and get so fed up with it's users claiming their computers are virus free and can do everything a well built PC can do. In this day and age, ignorance about computing is unacceptable, so even though a lot of people getting screwed by this are your average consumers, I can't feel bad for them.
PC's have been and will always be superior to Macs. Zunes were better than iPods. Droids are superior to iPhones. Almost every other tablet on the market is better than an iPad.
It's amazing how many people will blindly buy something with a damn apple stamped on its backside. Hopefully this will help some of them become more discerning consumers.
I despise Apple, and get so fed up with it's users claiming their computers are virus free and can do everything a well built PC can do. In this day and age, ignorance about computing is unacceptable, so even though a lot of people getting screwed by this are your average consumers, I can't feel bad for them.
PC's have been and will always be superior to Macs. Zunes were better than iPods. Droids are superior to iPhones. Almost every other tablet on the market is better than an iPad.
It's amazing how many people will blindly buy something with a damn apple stamped on its backside. Hopefully this will help some of them become more discerning consumers.
Steve Jobs actually could sacrifice children on an apple-shaped altar on a worldwide televised event and he would still be worshipped and adored by the masses as the second coming, all the while holding his hands out for the millions his devotees beg him to take from them.
"Apple's media people didn't want to say much. They told me: "If you are a Mac user both iPhone 4 and the latest iPod shuffle require Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later. This is clearly labelled on the back of the iPhone 4 box ? it is also clearly labelled on the back of the iPod shuffle box ? if you decide not to upgrade to Snow Leopard [eh?], then you have 14 days from date of purchase of your devices to claim your refund."'
Why is that not enough? If a game company releases a game that won't run on your OS (lets say it's windows 7 exclusive and you are loyal to XP) and they CLEARLY LABELED that it won't work on your OS and you were STILL too dumb to buy it the game...how is that the companies fault? It's not even like the guy was JUST buying a $20 dollar game. He was buying new hardware that costs HUNDREDS. At this link...at the apple store (since he was so stupid as to not read the box housing your product)...you can purchase the dang thing for £26.00.
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL
I'm a PC and a Mac user, this doesn't get me down at mac at all as much as it gets me down on stupid people. Does nobody do any research into anything at all anymore?
It's also clear from reading the rest of the comments here that 99% of people didn't read the whole article, saw it was a negative mac article, and started waving their "PC" or "Mac" allegiance banners immediately. Is the world STILL not beyond the PC vs. Mac thing? Are we still stuck on that?
Why is that not enough? If a game company releases a game that won't run on your OS (lets say it's windows 7 exclusive and you are loyal to XP) and they CLEARLY LABELED that it won't work on your OS and you were STILL too dumb to buy it the game...how is that the companies fault? It's not even like the guy was JUST buying a $20 dollar game. He was buying new hardware that costs HUNDREDS. At this link...at the apple store (since he was so stupid as to not read the box housing your product)...you can purchase the dang thing for £26.00.
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MAC_OS_X_SNGL
I'm a PC and a Mac user, this doesn't get me down at mac at all as much as it gets me down on stupid people. Does nobody do any research into anything at all anymore?
It's also clear from reading the rest of the comments here that 99% of people didn't read the whole article, saw it was a negative mac article, and started waving their "PC" or "Mac" allegiance banners immediately. Is the world STILL not beyond the PC vs. Mac thing? Are we still stuck on that?
