DamianWorld said:
Well done, you witnessed the exact moment George Lucas became a sell out doush bag instead of a legit director like in the earlier films he was involved in. But in-turn he became the god of fanboys. Crystal skull is diabolical due to the "fridge scene". And thats just one of the reasons. And it's ftw. If you look through rose-tinted glasses yes it's worse, but looking at it through shit-stainded contact lense (yes from the inside) it's still diabolical and a sequel (if looked at as a stand-alone movie) is like watching a sequel to "A Clock-work Orange" (a film so terrible I want to gut people who pretend to like it.)
Not to risk undoing my rant but I love the first 3. No archaeology involved btw, but it was from the era of explosions and stop motion, plasticine effects. That can't compete today and thats why it should stay in the past. I mean it's like trying to bring Rambo, Die Hard or Rocky back... wait say WHAT!
sorry to say but Lucas is still a legit director, you've more than proved my point about how you don't understand what he was doing nor what he has said about any of his movies.
oh as for the fridge thing, hmmm out running a boulder, jumping out of an airplane in a life raft and living wasn't on the same level of unbelievability? like i've said why not go compare what happens in the newer movie and the original ones, you'll notice a lot of similar things he survives.
oh and no archaeology? you haven't even bothered watching the first one have you? i'm pretty sure there's a whole bunch of it in there. something about a dig site in the desert but i might be wrong.
as for A Clockwork Orange, the only issue with it is the ending and that was due to the version of the book Stanley had at the time. other than that it's pretty spot on compared to the book and dead bang on if you read the American version, the UK version has an extra chapter at the end
corroded said:
Just because they made a knowing CHOICE to move the series to the '50s. The biggest sole gripe i have is with the stupid childish stuff that jumped in from Star Wars, the stretching stupid snake scene, ruining an old joke, herding monkeys and double taking gophers. Personally, i quite liked the first part of the film, and it got steadily worse, i forgave the blast survive as license and it started off like it could be going somewhere. But along came this saved precious storyline Lucas had pulled from some of the TV series, the Crystal Skull was a boring, clichéd development, and Aliens, something Spielberg went on the record originally saying was a bad idea but gave in to Lucas
An utterly and totally forgettable nemesis, Indy is essentially a passenger for the entire thing, and Marion is reduced to the level of a lady one step away from re-homing hordes cats as a profession. I know Indy is supposed to be a rompy kinda style, unbelievable, but they took away the magic with uninspired enemies, on an uninspired quest, with uninspiring action which actually verged on boring and totally idiotic.
I also wasn't a fan of the jump from mysticism to science fiction, essentially.
I joked in the cinema when gophers came out from what appeared to the the mountain in Close Encounters, saying 'I bet this one is about Aliens'. I turned out to be right.
Baaaahaaasically... a failure on almost the same level as the Matrix Sequels. Joyless.
stretching snake? ummmm do you know how long pythons, boas and anacondas can get? my friend has a couple snakes that are well over 6 feet long. some jungle snakes get to be 15 feet long. so it's not a stretch really and they've used that joke in every Indy movie.
as for the animals, look at the elephants in Temple of Doom and the monkey in Raiders of the Lost Ark, they do some pretty odd and funny things. as for a prairie dog, they aren't gophers, doing a double take, that's not to much of a stretch for them.
Marion in the first one was much the same that she was in the new one. she always got into trouble and the same goes for any of the women in the series.
all the things in the newer one have been in the older ones, just in different forms.