Or to put it in more general terms; thank the rise of the neo-liberal paradigm for all of this nonsense. Shit's pretty awful.Ratty said:
Oh I'm sorry I thought this was America.
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Im not sure i understand so many Americans are upset about this too. This is basic libertarianism. Youre worth the amount of labor you produce. If someone produces your labor for less youre worthless to them and thus the company has no compulsion to do shit for you. This is what capitalism looks like, and i cant imagine any law/regulation that can force companies to not do this.QuietlyListening said:
I mean sure as a guy with socialistic leanings i dislike it, and i think/hope the future wont be capitalistic but if youre happy with capitalism (As i imagine most Americans are) then this is to be expected.
As I always say, Freedom has a price and not everything about being Free is necessarily good.BiscuitTrouser said:
Nothing we can do about it though, it would require a major revolution and I think the American people are too lazy and passive to fix things.
The American Dream shifted from optimism to fantasy in the 1960s, but the Late Capitalist Dream of maximizing their descendants' well being and lifespans at the expense of everything else is alive and well.BoogieManFL said:
Given the current projection of 500 million humans alive in 2100, we are currently deciding through political and economic reality just who those 500 million people are going to be. The LCD is planning for those people to be their descendants and the descendants of useful chosen servants. The rest of us are "left behind" for our descendants to become corpses.
The Late Capitalist Dream needs to be killed in the same way the American Dream was killed - by transforming reality so that it cannot happen.
Eh, it's better than the impending restaffing of jobs with robots.
I suppose our future will require regulation of how much of revenue must be given to employee at minimum once businesses find enough ways to outsource or replace workers to cause a problem in our economy.
I suppose our future will require regulation of how much of revenue must be given to employee at minimum once businesses find enough ways to outsource or replace workers to cause a problem in our economy.
I'll tell you what!QuietlyListening said:
A bunch of American companies blaming piracy because the people who can no longer afford their movies aren't buying them!
(I'm not condoning piracy. I'm saying that many of the "lost sales" they ***** about don't come from piracy, but from the people American corporations have put out of the market)
I hope you apply that logic consistently by opposing policies that also increase unemployment like increasing taxes on anyone or the mere existence of a minimum wage. You can't have the government impose restrictions on who companies can hire. They would just find another way to break even, be it by firing workers anyway, cutting hours, or raising their prices. Thankfully, consumers can know which companies outsource jobs and buy from their competitors, instead. Virtually every company knows how important customer relations are these days, and it's only going to get better. Hail Saint Reagan!Ratty said:
First hand knowledge.Vault101 said:
I know a guy who has several young children who just got told to fuck off. Another guy who just sent his daughter off to college. I doubt they see it like that.Nimcha said:
And, get this, some people got told they were were out of a job while they were ON VACATION. Enjoy!!
I don't know if you were directing it to me, but I didn't imply in any way it's worse when it happens to Americans. That's just the situation here that I am in, I'm sure it happens everywhere and it's just a shitty. I can't speak about situations I am uninformed on and displaced from.llamastorm.games said:
Sure it may be cheaper, but you usually get what you pay for. That's why you get mold infested dryboard and baby food with a lot of lead in it from China. The people taking the jobs are just too damned inexperienced to replace the people they are replacing. Many also have trouble understanding others and being understood by people on the phone. Others have to constantly get their work fixed by domestic employees because of horribly written/misspelled application text. If there isn't a checklist to follow and you have to investigate and learn how to fix an unknown problem, it takes forever for them to get it done. Often the work they fail to do properly gets piled upon the few remaining veterans who are already over worked.
But it's cheaper. Who cares your quality is shit, and that which does get done is extremely slow paced.. And you make work a living hell for those who remain.
Why does no one care about quality or get enough money and thing okay, now let's focus on improving things. They were already saving by paying less than the industry standard and doing the work with fewer people that there should have been working on it.
Yeah thats well ... capitalism!? There you have it, easy as that. Happens all the time, but look on the bright side, the american tent-econemy will profit.
All hail the stockgods of efficiency!!!
All hail the stockgods of efficiency!!!
All that sounds very American to me. Ok that's not fair. It's sounds very typical of big shithole corporations though.