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President Moocow

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Mr.Tea said:
Whoaaaaa... Make yourself a soothing chamomile infusion, take a few deep breaths and calm down.
I'm calm. Pissed off that someone could think such insensitive views, but still pretty calm. You, however, need to learn that what you say may have a negative impact on others.

First of all, of course it's not representative of a population and I mentioned myself that it was a comedian's interview, thanks for telling it back to me. And of course he only kept those that fucked up, that's why it's funny, but it doesn't change the fact that these people really struggled with the answers to goddamn simple questions.
Yes, but WHAT does that imply? You seem to imply it makes them stupid. I imply it makes them human.

Second (a), when did I ever say "Look how everyone living here is a retard!!"? I said "... [he] interviewed some truly retarded everyday people". The fact is, there are a lot of idiots in the streets around the world and I didn't mean to infer only here.
Second (b): Not France, Quebec. (Or "That Canadian province where people speak mostly French"). And I live here and I like it and French is my first language despite being born in Florida. (Fun fact in the same vein, interviewing a lot of "everyday americans", you'd be surprised how many don't know where Canada is...)
You said "living in the 16th century", point remains. Frankly that's not what I have as much of a problem with. I don't like the fact that you assume that THESE SPECIFIC PEOPLE are somehow idiots simply because they couldn't answer basic questions.

I'm definitely not a genius, but I wouldn't have fallen for these questions because, holy crap, I like to think before I speak. The thing is that even if you did speak too soon, you can correct yourself at any moment, but they didn't.
Or they did, but after the screen cut away. You don't know for sure, you're making assumptions and drawing conclusions from those assumptions.

Also you're assuming that you would be able to answer all these questions (or others like these) and frankly, that's an arrogant assumption. Automatically assuming that you, on the street, would be able to flawlessly answer all these questions (that are set up to trip people). What, are you immune to human error?

The spelling thing was easy; it's a moderately simple word that everyone should know and it really shows the decline in spelling/grammar ability in most everyone. (I notice it here as well... so yeah.)
See this is a perfect example of the problem with this thread. You make your own conclusions based on an EXTREMELY limited source of people. The comedian wasn't trying to show the decline in spelling/grammar and until you show me some sort of valid study on the decline of spelling/grammar then you're just wild guesses. Very unconvincing!

and finally, if your assumption wasn't faulty enough: Know that it's harder to spell a word orally than it is to write it and since nobody goes around spelling out words orally, our inability to spell words out orally doesn't fucking matter in society (except for spelling Bees)

The bridge one is the one that shows that people don't think before speaking. You don't discover a bridge, you build it. And in 1534, which they should know is when Cartier discovered Canada, there is no way a bridge like that could be built.
Thankyou for the pointless explanation. Doesn't change the fact that the question is still worded in such a tricky way. You've got to stop trying obsessively to find meaning in this kind of stuff. It's comedy. It's funny. It's NOT a documentary showing how people can act on impulses.

The triangle one is the simplest one, nothing misleading about it, How many sides does a triangle have? I mean, a triangle... Whatever, it seems only two people screwed up so whatever.
See, this is the kind of "deduction" you should have about all of them. Why do you still cling to the others?

Benedict XVI succeeded to John Paul the second who was pope for 26 years before he died a couple years ago. Twenty six years. That's a while to at least learn his name... And then the woman can't even count "there was 15, then 16 and the next one will be...?" and she says 14.
See this is tough do because of the translation problem. For all the others, the faulty answer has SOME logic basis that makes it ration why a person may answer that (encouraged by the phrasing of the question), for this, there's no rational basis for a person to say 14

However, I've seen this trick done before but the question is asked a little differently. So, in this case, what if the question was worded like this (still essentially the same question, although french could have better wording so IDK): "so there was ben 16 who preceded ben 15 and the next one will be....?" see in THIS case, saying 14 is normal (and likely) because of the pattern. People are biologically programed to see patterns and so it's more natural to follow a basic pattern than it is to follow process a language. Does that make a person retarded? No, it makes them human.

The fact that the Earth rotates around the sun was contested back in the 1500s, everyone who went to school should have seen at least one diagram of the solar system! That's what is supposed to be common sense! The "from our perspective" thing is exactly what made the ignorants in the XVIth century think that we were the center of the universe, that the Earth was flat, lightning came from the gods, the kings had divine rights, etc.
And there's a reason those views were popular back then. THEY MAKE RATIONAL SENSE. When someone is just in the street minding their own business, what's more likely to come to mind? Rational logic based on everyday life or abstract theories based on scientific proof. Sure, it's proven the earth rotates around the sun, but it's still an abstract concept that doesn't make rational sense. It's like asking people what's the most common element in the universe. Are people automatically going to say "hydrogen"? Probably not.

Also, how many more times will I have to say "the question is worded in a tricky way"?
 

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Someone really didn't know what the Holocaust was?!!!!!! Are you fucking with me?!!! Do they know what genocide is ??!! Do they not know about the systematic torture and murder of over 5 million people??!!! That may be the worst thing that I have ever heard. My grandfather fought in WW2 and he will never forget. The soldiers who discovered mass graves filled with mutilated bodies will never forget. Those who managed to survive the best argument for humanity's destruction only by the grace of God will never forget. Those who have had that memory burned into their flash will never forget!!! What makes this self-righteous fucktard think that he has a right to forget when true evil walked upon this Earth and good men stood together and said NO!?? Like that episode of the Twilight Zone," The Dachau's and Auschwitz's of the world must stand, so that we will see them everyday and never forget." That pisses me off so fucking much!!!!! I have to go do something else now before I have a heart attack.
 

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Calm down... and speaking of the holocaust, my 15 year old sister had absolutely no clue as to what it was... when she said that my jaw literally dropped. I was that shocked. Mind you she is a bit of an idiot when it comes to some things...
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
A girl in my flat at university didn't know... now this is a long list, set stupid shields to maximum:
Plants grow towards windows because of the light.
She wondered why the top half of her room was warmer than the bottom.
She asked me that "if the Chinese celebrate new year in feburary does that mean they celebrate xmas at a different time?"
The difference between 'dissolve' and 'melt'.
She thought our concrete patio slabs were wet because they 'absorbed the water from next doors patio'.
She thought Arnold Schwarzanegger(sp?) was the US president.
She thought ALL white swans were female and that the brown ones (cygnets, or baby swans if you like) were male.

I'm sure there are more, I just can't remember them at the moment.
How did she manage to get into University?
 
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primitivescrewhead said:
Daystar Clarion said:
A girl in my flat at university didn't know... now this is a long list, set stupid shields to maximum:
Plants grow towards windows because of the light.
She wondered why the top half of her room was warmer than the bottom.
She asked me that "if the Chinese celebrate new year in feburary does that mean they celebrate xmas at a different time?"
The difference between 'dissolve' and 'melt'.
She thought our concrete patio slabs were wet because they 'absorbed the water from next doors patio'.
She thought Arnold Schwarzanegger(sp?) was the US president.
She thought ALL white swans were female and that the brown ones (cygnets, or baby swans if you like) were male.

I'm sure there are more, I just can't remember them at the moment.
How did she manage to get into University?
She only did a web design course... Not exactly an academic course.
 

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Blindswordmaster said:
Someone really didn't know what the Holocaust was?!!!!!! Are you fucking with me?!!! Do they know what genocide is ??!! Do they not know about the systematic torture and murder of over 5 million people??!!! That may be the worst thing that I have ever heard. My grandfather fought in WW2 and he will never forget. The soldiers who discovered mass graves filled with mutilated bodies will never forget. Those who managed to survive the best argument for humanity's destruction only by the grace of God will never forget. Those who have had that memory burned into their flash will never forget!!! What makes this self-righteous fucktard think that he has a right to forget when true evil walked upon this Earth and good men stood together and said NO!?? Like that episode of the Twilight Zone," The Dachau's and Auschwitz's of the world must stand, so that we will see them everyday and never forget." That pisses me off so fucking much!!!!! I have to go do something else now before I have a heart attack.
I know its retarded, but to be fair that person didn't forget, they somehow never knew what it was to begin with.
 

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I think I've met a few people who didn't know who someone important was but I don't really care. For all you know there's an important figure they know of which you don't.
 

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I may say so jokingly about things like Firefly. But in reality, I don't consider anything "common knowledge." To assume that because you know something, everyone else should know that things, is pure and utter arrogance.
 

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TheMatt said:
I think it's funny that Thomas Edison's discovery of gravity had NOTHING to do with an apple falling on his head. Yet so many people know that story and take it as fact.
Isaac Newton, man.
lol... ummm... yah.... you know.. lightbulbs.. gravity... . practically the same thing if you think about it...
 

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Well, I do hate it when people don't even know who the Prime Minister of Ireland is when they're from Ireland.

In fact, I hate it when anyone from a country doesn't know who's in power in their country, unless they're under 11.
I follow politics far more dilligently than most Australians and I have no fucking idea who's in power, I know that neither Kevin Rudd (the prime ministor) nor Tony Abbott (the conservative loony catholic the opposition leader) have any real power or substance. The system seems to be little more than a beaurocratic cycle of bickering and ...well, bickering. If there is any power to be had then it could perhaps be Quentin Bryce (the governor general), though I doubt many Australians would know who she is (certainly does very little in the public eye).

OT: I sometimes get names confused, this has lead to some odd conversations where people look at me funny.
 

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I know very little about USA presidents, but I'm british so wasn't exactly the top of our history lessons. I did learn about slavery in america for a year... I have no idea why but it was interesting and a very historical moment so guess that was why *shrug*
I gave up on History in year 9 and never learnt about the first world war either. I know the basics but if you ask for any more details other than "who was involved" you'll get a blank look and a "duuuuhhhh dunno" response from me.
 

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Cargando said:
I also knew someone who did not know who Stalin was at all. Or Karl Marx. I mean [i/]really?[/i]
i know, my class only recently knew who both of them were, i mean come on

what's worse is they now hold "comunist to be an insult and gibber mindlessly about it (especialy at a chinese freind of mine and act like utter retards, they don't even know what it's all really about. i remmeber hearing one guy mention that marx said conunism would be the last stage of human society and asked if we really wanted to end human society forever!!! he then capped off his dumb-dumb fest by saying we might as well revive hitler and be done with COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!
Ouch, I could feel my brain panicking as I read it. At least the idiots round here know being a communist is fine. Most of them anyway.
 

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This thread just pulled me over that line from lurker to poster!

I have a few juicy bits from highschool, both fall in the category of "things anyone ANYWHERE should know by certain age".

First is the moment I realized the 'school bimbo' fully deserved her title: she asked during class "Why are people in Africa black? If I go to Africa while pregnant and give birth, the child is still white". With a straight face. Yup. So not only had she no concept of genetic inheritance, it seems she had managed to dodge the whole "birds and bees" discussion until 18.

Also heard from a followed conversation in the hallway: "Can you contract STDs from masturbating".
 

President Moocow

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Mr.Tea said:
President Moocow said:
Ok, I didn't think you'd still be bothered by this, but really, what's the big deal?? You sound personally offended... Touchy about this subject, are we? It's a transcript of a comedy show that was broadcast here, I'm not inventing anything.

''You seem to imply it makes them stupid. I imply it makes them human.''
That's the point: Humans are generally stupid. I know this'll probably offend your delicate soul, but I just can't try to explain this any more. And who cares what I think of them? I'm not hurting them and I'm not hurting anyone here. Except you, for some obscure reason...

Sure they might have realised their wrong answers after the footage cut, but if you'd have seen the video, you'd know there weren't any rapid-fire cuts. It just really brings my point home: People don't think before speaking.

The ability to write/spell properly isn't an assumption I'm making because of these people, it's a damn fact. I've been in school, you know, and I've heard the teacher's data as to just how common writing mistakes are in the majority of works handed in by students. It's so prevalent that the Ministry of Education has lowered it's standards so that less people would fail. FACT.

''Worded in a tricky way''
Again: People don't think before they speak! Just take two damn seconds and think about the question! 'Hang on, bridges are built!'

The Benedict thing wasn't worded weirdly at all. Like I translated, he asked 'So there was Ben 15, then Ben 16, so the next one will be...?'

''Rational sense''
Based on our personal observation, that's as may be. But the fact is that we've known better FOR OVER FOUR HUNDRED YEARS! Don't you think it should be COMMON knowledge?

The problem I have with theses answers and that you don't care about is that they are all things you learn IN GRADE SCHOOL. Except for the bridge, then you need a whopping SECONDARY 4! (4th year of high school, for americans). However, I only mentioned Sec4 because it's supposed to be the year you learn History of Quebec, any number of courses from before may very well at least touch on the discovery of Canada in 1534. The very important point that I can't believe you're not according any importance to is: EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT!!
So what if I'm touchy? I happen to care about people and empathize. Frankly I don't give a shit about this tedious debate anymore. I hope that someone can explain to you as to why these views are very condescending and insensitive but I'm not interested anymore. Have a nice life.
 

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someone at work came up to me a while back and struck up this conversation...

Her: "Did you know that Fray Bentos isn't the leader of Cuba?"
Me: "Erm... Yes."
Her: "That's amazing! I thought that was why everyone bought his pies!"
Me: "Are you serious?"
Her: "Absolutely."
Me: "So when you found this out did you find out who the leader of Cuba is?"
Her: "Erm... No. Who is it?"
Me: "Until last week it was Fidel Castro, now its Raul Castro."

Gave me pause for thought about how misguided some people are...

Though I have to take issues with some of the previous examples.
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In a college level Baking and Pastry arts II course we were baking cakes to assemble them for tortes later in the semester. One person came up to me and asked for help because the batter was leaking out of his cake pan. I took one look at the pan and noticed that it was a spring form cake pan. When I explained his mistake to him, he replied "What the hell is this used for then? You can't bake cakes in this." I calmly explained what it was used for, and then quickly found something else to do, far away from him.
wtf? i don't know anyone who knows anything about baking... wtf is a spring form cake pan?
not part of my life I'm afraid so quite understandable.

The Earth-Sun argument - which one rotates around whcih is a matter of your reference frame. If you take earth as your ref frame, the sun goes round the earth. If you take it anywhere else, the earth goes round the sun. so technically speaking they're both correct - the mistake the people made who answered was not asking for a frame of reference.

I think the main problem is not that people are ignorant - everyone is, because no-one knows everything - but that a lot of people are happy to be ignorant.
 

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Wow, they will die through terminal stupidity.

I wasnt even born when they where around, I dont really like there music but I know of them.
 

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LordChhaya said:
So I ask you Escapists (or whatever you're called) do you know of any criminal lack of knowledge towards important people? Please post here so we may mock them.