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Cenii

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I'm in my second year of university (I'm English if it helps) and I've been studying English (No im not just re-learning the venacular, this just means literature and language studies).
Now in all the epic poetry, novella and lore I have read and studied thus far I have, personally, concluded that the downfalls of mankind lies, not on the shoulders of elitist heirarchy or capitalist corruption, though they do posses an undeniable effect on 'civilisation' and 'culture'*, but in the still prevalent exsistence of highly structured, hierarchical religions. Now please note I am not BASHING OR FLAMING religion in anyway just the archaic way in which they are dictated and the outdated values they hold in reverence.
(Just my humble opinion, im yet to travel the world and see it myself but...)

What are your views on this? Are you religious yourself? do you really believe?


*from a marxxist point of view (the man himself not the 'cult' that formed around a degredation of his ideologies)
 

Antlers

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3rd religion thread on the first page I see... I did not think that would be the content when I read the title I must admit.

I'm not religious. The archaic hierarchical structure certainly doesn't help mankind, but I don't really see the point in overhauling it (as well as the fact that it just plain would not work). I think the only way to help is to make every state secular.
 

Scolar Visari

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Honestly I think religion is great when done correctly. My personal religion, which will go un named, is less about the belief in gods and more about forming a community of support for those tough times.

Do I deny the existence of gods? No, I just try to avoid that argument all together. I don't think I need to believe that there is some one eyed man watching over me to follow a religion.
 

Antlers

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Scolar Visari said:
Honestly I think religion is great when done correctly. My personal religion, which will go un named, is less about the belief in gods and more about forming a community of support for those tough times.
Is it an AA meeting?
 

Skeleon

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I agree with you. Religion needs to be purely personal. Institutionalized religion has resulted in lots and lots of atrocities.
However, people in power usually don't willfully give it up. I don't see how we can get out of this mess except for waiting.
After all, the religious institutions have lost a lot of influence over the last few hundred years (well, in many places of the world at least), I'm sure this process will continue.
How to accelerate it? No clue.
 

Legion

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Religion as a belief? Nothing wrong with it.

Religion as an organisation? There we have issues. I have nothing wrong with Catholics but despise the concept of the clergy and the Vatican.

The issue is that a lot of Atheists cannot tell or do not care about the differences, hence why there are arguments.
 

Scolar Visari

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Antlers said:
Scolar Visari said:
Honestly I think religion is great when done correctly. My personal religion, which will go un named, is less about the belief in gods and more about forming a community of support for those tough times.
Is it an AA meeting?
Funny, got a good chuckle out of that.

But In all seriousness, I don't think naming my religion would contribute much to the discussion. I'm not even all that religious really. Hell I'd say I barely follow my own religion anyway.

Also I've barely touched alcohol. Only ever had a few drinks and never really enjoyed them.