Couple of links for you; don't know if they're helpful, but I'm in the UK so I can't do much else!JesterRaiin said:
With only ~30 rounds to work with, he's actually pretty terrifying lethal. Life isn't like a game of CoD, folks. Getting hit by a bullet, even in the CoM is not necessarily a death sentence.Matthew94 said:
Yeah 'cos the dozen or so other times this has happened never actually happened. I can think of two off the top of my head and I am pretty sure there is a third famous one, there is Columbine and Virginia tech.xSKULLY said:
But if they had all had guns I'm sure this would have turned out well. Not many people know this but if you're committing a crime you enter into hostile mode. While in this mode you have a giant red arrow pointing at you that shows others that you are the attacker, which is how they avoid collateral damage, mass hysteria and so on.omega 616 said:
Ah, the lord of war "bigger stick theory". The "we have guns 'cos they have guns. So if they shoot us, we can shoot back" ideal. Where is the diplomacy in it?Istvan said:
The difference is: road rage is by car, cars are useful for transport. Whatever he did to burn down the building them products would have been useful for something and it's easier to get away from a fire than a gun man. Knives are useful in the kitchen among other things.xSKULLY said:
I didn't suggest there was any, just pointed out that that way no civilians get harmed because due to the magical giant red arrow everyone will instantly know who the shooter is and thereby avoid shooting other innocents.omega 616 said:
This useful enough for you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzxC4_ew4YA&feature=relatedomega 616 said:
You kind of messed that up ... You were meant to quote me, haha.xSKULLY said:
So what have we here ... 84 year old woman shoots a guy. Nice, her value of human life is what? $200?senordesol said:
$200? How much do you think ammunition costs? Maybe $0.10 a bullet in most states.omega 616 said:
Correct. *Most* human life. As in Folks who are able to go about their day without making victims of their fellow man. Of course what you fail to consider is that 'whatever you own' in your home also includes the lives and safety of yourself and your loved ones. Now life insurance exists, sure, but I somehow doubt it will quite cover the loss of your spouse or child.omega 616 said:
When I say most, I mean the real scum ... not the guy who stole your $10 wallet with $20 inside, your phone and your ipod. I mean the guy who shot up the island in Norway (I think), the people who sell sex slaves or Fritzl.senordesol said:
The fact is: you have no idea WHAT the fuck he's there to do and I'd be disinclined to game the odds with my LIFE at stake. They could have been there to kidnap them. You don't know, and neither did the kids. All they knew is that men had broken into their home and that puts them in danger.reonhato said:
im not pro-gun, but heres a situation: a marine in a warzone. oh noes!! we dont have guns! try to make peace with tedddy bears and virgins!omega 616 said:
I don't give a shit WHAT they're interested in. If -in your estimation- nothing in my home is worth killing for, then certainly nothing in my home is worth dying for. So, that being the case, I'd expect -knowing that 1 in 6 Americans own a weapon- anyone who would risk their life for my possessions does not give two flying shits what happens to me or my family in the process of the commission of their crime.omega 616 said:
Right. Just like in this [http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-before-fatal-home-invasion-suspect-threatened-20120401,0,7156094.story?track=rss] situation.reonhato said:
Personally, if I were in that situation, I'd rather have a gun than try to talk someone deranged like that down. Because words pale in comparison to a .45