Well a lot of those still have some pretty good cult followings. A lot of that counts as being very mainstream though so it doesn't come up very often in geekdom discussions. "Friday The 13th: The Series" was hugely influential even if it's aged badly, I think Syfy has the syndication rights still and I've heard constant rumbles of them wanting to remake it, allegedly "Warehouse 13" was a compromise project but some still want to do it as more of a horror show. "Max Headroom" was one of those odd things that was pumped as a pop-culture phenomena due to the popularity (for a time) of Max himself as a TV pitch man, however the TV show didn't do too well, as it went over the heads of the audiences of the time who really didn't seem to get it. That said Max Headroom references are one of the things you can use to get cred with real geeks. I imagine Max is one of those things that will be around the fringes pretty much forever. Some shows like "Moonlighting" which you mention above were cool during their time but also very much the product of the pop culture of their era, and like most things "hip" simply don't work well for people who weren't around during the era without other things to tie the show down. Magnum P.I. is also arguably one of the most influential TV detective shows of all time as well. Heck, they even had an episode making jokes about it in the new Hawaii 5-0 ( even discussing which Magnum character would be the analogy for each of the 5-0 cast members present.small said:ALL OF THEM
airwolf, manimal, magnum PI,the equilizer,fraggle rock,degrassi junior high,hardcastle and mcormick, moonlighting, remington steele, hill street blues, friday the 13th, max headroom (this was freaking awesome!), cheers, robotech.
grumbles about stupid kids and get off my lawn !
Well, I think age is a factor. Babylon 5 had a decent following, and actually saw multiple editions of a PnP RPG released. One of the big problems with B5 though is that a lot of the cast members couldn't act to save their lives to begin with, but actually got better at it as the show went on. The computer generated FX which were a HUGE selling point originally also didn't age well. That said, it's one of those shows where like Andromeda they wrapped it up thinking they wouldn't be able to continue, got renewed again, and then went on to finish things off more properly. It was popular enough to get a couple of made for TV movies, and a sequel series called "Crusade" which died off without being finished allegedly due to a three way fight between creators, actors, and the networks. I suppose the only ones who know for sure are those who were involved in it, but from what I've heard it seems like a big enough mess where a B5 reboot or sequel... which would be awesome... is unlikely. That said on some geek forums you can still see people making the occasional Zathris Knows comments talking in the third person.Happyninja42 said:Babylon 5. One of the most groundbreaking sci fi shows, that set a precedent for many to follow, yet very few people I know ever saw it.
Silversun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silversun I sorta liked it's inventiveness...Australia used to create lots of weird kid's shows, often quite good, and for a while, a lot of them were sci-fi or fantasy. Nowdays things have slackened off, though.Vault101 said:I'm Australian so its a little more obscure in this nick of the woods
does anyone remember a show than ran around 2005 or 2006 which was basically a teen "star trek" drama about a ship called the "star runner" on its way to settle anew colony (500 settlers in suspended animation) and the crew were mostly teenagers on the logic that they would live long enough to get there (because stasis rotation is makes too much sense, especially when It seems to be entirely possible), there was "Tane" "Deckhart"? "Pancha" the one with the robot chip in her brain and Zandy....there were more but I can't remember oh and too annoying kids called Cinamon and Tycho because why the fuck not?
I can't say I liked the show but it stuck in my mind for how dumb it was
oh I definitely give them points for creativity...and it was fun to make fun of...I was "too cool" for that kind of thing XD (not the sci fi but the teen drama)thaluikhain said:Silversun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silversun I sorta liked it's inventiveness...Australia used to create lots of weird kid's shows, often quite good, and for a while, a lot of them were sci-fi or fantasy. Nowdays things have slackened off, though.
There is talk of making another new series of that.Vault101 said:I remember (similar time like 2004-2006) they played re-runs of ocean girl...now that was a pretty cool show,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tribe_%28TV_series%29 ?Vault101 said:now that was a pretty cool show, there was also a post-apocalyptic one set in new Zealand but that was on the commercial channels so I never watched it
Lift off? EC plays lift off? Mr Squiggle? Mulligrubs?Vault101 said:aside from round the twist I can't think of many, maybe jeopardy counts
Not narrowed it down very far there.Vault101 said:I remember a british one that was actually really dark for a kids show...but no one ever seems to remember it
ah....ocean girl was a co-production....as was Jeopardythaluikhain said:There is talk of making another new series of that.
In any case, Jonathan M. Schiff is still making that sort of thing. There will be a new series of Mako Mermaids coming out, but it looks like they are going for the international market, might end up filming it overseas.
I have the complete first three years of those comics, and I'm working on collecting the rest. They're some of the greatest comics I've ever read.Twintix said:Woah, I think I remember those Donald Duck comics! Those were great; They were dark without being heavy, appealing to kids and adults alike. I only had, like, 3 issues, but I remember them being awesone!Equiliari said:But only because the creators of W*I*T*C*H made a totally awesome, and not to mention adult take on the super hero alter ego of Donald Duck; Duck Avenger.
They were made by the people who made W*I*T*C*H? Well, I guess you learn something new every day.
Are you perhaps referring to Heavy Gear? I remember that show, it was decent at the time but it probably has not aged well (I have not seen it in some time), plus after some looking into it apparently differs immensely from the source material.erttheking said:There is one TV show that I remember liking but for the life of me I can't remember the name...it was a CGI cartoon, I think it might have been on Kids WB, I think it was about people in mech suits fighting in tournaments...that's all I remember.
Ah, think I remember an ad for that, but not actually watched the show. Something something "their eco-refugees" something something.Vault101 said:that's because I've described it more than once here with no luck, but I'll try again
ok its British, and it takes place after some event they refer too as "the drowning" (global warming/rising sea levels? that would make it ahead of its time)
society isn't exactly mad max...but its just chugging along
for whatever reason there are people with supernatural abilities I forgot what they're called (because for some reason you need that in this genre) our main protagonist is Milee, she and her brother are orphans and live in an orphanage, she is unique in her powerful abiliy to "flip" things...turn them inside out. The main gist is her, her brother a couple of adults and some other characters I can't remember go off I think to run away from the authorites because theyre after her (the main bad guy is a redhead who also has supernatural abilities, he can "co-opt" peoples bodies and control them remotely/speak for them. I think in the end he turned "good" and let them go)
there are a few episodes I remember
1. they go to an eccentric ladys house where she hooks up a couple of them to a virtual reality machine, she describes the guy who used to live in the mansion (was an inventor) and how he always wanted children, turns out she's a robot (who charges through her eye socket) and she flips out when they want to leave, not understanding why they wouldn't want to just hang in the virtual realty thing forever and gets really angry when they question if "pre-drowning" was much better than "post-drowing"
2. another one involves them hanging at some marketplace and focuses on a kid who takes "magic" from a mesterious dealther (in the form of colourful Band-Aid sitckers than give him telekenisis and leave [strike/]track[/S] red marks after they wear out) a clear unsubtle metaphor for drugs
3. don't remember much except some people they know forced to use a poisonous pesticide which makes them go blind
4. they come across a delirious raving girl in a costal area saying something about a curse that causes a kind of red rash (st anthnys fire) turns out it was from eating the seagull eggs
again I remember it being pretty dark (particually the fertaliser/st anthonys fire episodes) but maybye were I too watch it again it might not come across that way
Went on to inspire other shows, though, so can't be that obscure. Firefly is the modern US Blake's7, Farscape is the modern US/Australia Blake's7 with muppets...albino boo said:Blake's 7. It was the campest and insane British 80s Sci Fi show.
There were rumors that Blake 7 may get a reboot at some point.albino boo said:Blake's 7. It was the campest and insane British 80s Sci Fi show.
Small Moon Rabbit said:There were rumors that Blake 7 may get a reboot at some point.albino boo said:Blake's 7. It was the campest and insane British 80s Sci Fi show.
If you like TV written by Terry Nation (which includes many classic Doctor Who stories), you may like the original 1970's "Survivors" series. Its an 'end of the world' drama about a world pandemic (kind of relevant at the moment). It starts off like some twisted British 70's sitcom, with all the baggage that comes with sitcoms of that era. It really shows its age (attitudes to class and gender), but in my opinion that's one of the things that makes it so interesting. Its by no means perfect, the acting for example is uneven to say the least (oh god the children are terrible), but I'd give it a chance, their are some really great episodes in the first season.
I couple of things to watch out for. Peter Bowles plays the husband in the show, he was a huge TV star at the time and it was kind of a big deal he was playing a main character. Keep that in mind while watching the show.
The second and third seasons were not written by Nation, he left the production along with a really significant member of the cast, which kind of ruined the show for me (I'm being vague because SPOILERS!). In my opinion you should ignore those seasons as they are (IMO) kind of pants and the first season ends well enough to be left as is.
There was a reboot done a few years ago which again IMO is also not great. There was something about the original 1970's time period which just fits with the gloomy atmosphere of the show, something the reboot failed to capture.
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Obviously this is a show about a worldwide pandemic, its kind of grim and disturbing... just to warn anyone that is maybe thinking a show about the collapse of civilization isn't going to have some icky bits.