On Multiplayer

[KiKiweaky]

I used to be the same then I played war, which while you could only partake in pve.... its rather poor. The pvp is incredible and very competitive on my server. On release day I grudgingly took my rank 8 bright wizzard into the pvp area and have pretty much never looked back since. Its not for everyone though and if you dont like it fair enough

 

[Lawnmooer]

Interesting read. Made me think about the 1000+ Hours I've dropped into competitive multiplayer and realise why I like it, I don't particualarly care about winning nor losing, I just like having a good match with someone who is equally skilled and geared.

Though it is hard for me to find that because A) There is a crappy gear system that makes it so that people who have played longer get better/different stuff causing an imbalance in their favour. B) There is a huge difference between skilled and new players and the matchmaker sucks. C) One side has more people. D) All of the above.

I remember when I used to PvP in WoW, I always cursed at "Twinks" because they would be able to solo the entire enemy team in one go, so I made my own and only fought other twinks I occasionally had fun (Most of the time they would run away because they only wanted easy kills)

When I played Warhammer Online PvP ended up in "Who has the most people" in ORVR (World PvP for those who haven't played it) and "Who has the most healers/AoE glass cannons" in Scenarios.

LOTRO PvP Consisted of fights between the 2 bow users since they had the longest range.

TF2 did entertain me for a while, until I got bored of the classes (The fact they all had a weakness meant I ran into situations where I could not win just because)

L4D2 is severerly imbalanced towards the survivors and only becomes even if the infected are decent and the survivors are terrible.

That's all I can remember... Though it does appear that the main flaw (In my eyes) is the stuff games have in to make people work towards to play longer (Gear and upgrades)

If they removed all of the "Level up and get better stuff" from multiplayer it would probably be alot funner for most people since alot of the annoying people in CoD multiplayer only really play because they like to be the "Best" and win all the time so use the better stuff they unlock. Removing better stuff might reduce the amount annoying players and increase the number of people who want to play to have a good time.

 

[klausaidon]

This is why I like being on a unpopulated server, in a guild that is half casual, and half progression. I of course never actually have to wait in a line to get on the server. And while my guild does raid, its on a scale where I still keep my identity. In a five man, I'm the gay rogue that makes gay jokes about myself in vent. In raids, usually 10 man... I'm the gay rogue that makes gay jokes about myself in vent. And in 10 mans, its still small enough scale wherein I'm most likely the only rogue. Always several pallys though.

 

[frans909]

Hey Yatz. I understand now why you will not review Starcraft.

 

[frans909]

Hey Yatz. I understand now why you will not review Starcraft.

Its probably because there's nothing to review, Its a shiny version of the original. Its impossible to make jokes or either positive or negative points about.

It's very different from the original. You are not as well informed as you think you are.

 

[frans909]

Get a post, get a captcha error. Type the captcha, get a double post. Nice going.

 

[Jfswift]

I stopped playing TF2 because of all the whiners that jumped me during a game. It just wasn't relaxing or fun anymore.. and it's not like I'm even that bad either.

 

[Traun]

These days single player games just aren't for me.

I would prefer to either play co-op (Dynasty Warriors) or versus (Starcraft 2). I am more interested in having a great game than winning or loosing. Personally I don't see the challenge in single player games anymore, so I go mano-e-mano versus someone, not a big fan of team battles. Co-op...it's just hell of a fun with games (example - Dynasty Warriors).

 

[frans909]

Hey Yatz. I understand now why you will not review Starcraft.

Its probably because there's nothing to review, Its a shiny version of the original. Its impossible to make jokes or either positive or negative points about.

It's very different from the original. You are not as well informed as you think you are.

ok this is an example of things that are very different
<spoiler=very different>http://www.passionforbalance.co.uk/userimages/apple.jpghttp://blog.rongeorge.com/wp-content/uploads/craftsman-chainsaw-35020.jpg

and this is an example of something with simmilar levels of difference between sc1 and 2
<spoiler=not so different>http://www.lafsco.com/413tophat.jpghttp://robinheyden.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/top-hat.jpg
anyway serious face on now. I have played both, and whilst there are changes they aren't massive or that interesting, which is why the koreans won't pick it up (that and the increase in spec, drm bla bla bla). But just for clarification i don't dislike the game, theres just not much to say about it. Its like comparing any dynasty warriors game to another one.

Wow, you know how the Koreans think? Maybe you should try to get a job at the CIA.

 

[MpSai]

I liked the Red Dead multiplayer cause my friends and I could just run around doing things cooperatively, clearing out bandit bases, accidentally killing our horses, finding out we could ride shotgun in a stage coach etc. But there was always one cuntbucket who had to turn the free roaming multiplayer into PVP, and it was usually one who had spammed their character up to a ridiculously high level in the first week the game was out.

So I supposed I don't much mind multiplayer, I just hate PVP, which is what the majority of popular multiplayer boils down to.

 

[Grahav]

For me, to like competitive I need two things:

1 - To have real chances of winning. It sucks only to lose.

2 - If I lose, the winner can't be a douche.

I enjoyed a lot of Soul Calibur because of this.

But cooperative is very cool. Final Fight; Streets of Rage... All much more enjoyable with team work.

 

[robandall]

Glad to know I'm not mentally deficient for having that outlook on getting involved in competitive anything. More co-op games please.

 

[Daaaah Whoosh]

I only like multiplayer when I'm good at it, which makes me wonder how I'm still good at it. If everyone was like me, then everyone I owned would just quit.

 

[jackelbeaver]

Actually raids are restricted now to 10 or 20 man for the reasons yahtzee said. so yeah you can still have identity in a "current" raid group.

 

[daftalchemist]

If hating losing and not caring about winning is half a competitive streak, then I have a quarter of a competitive streak. I don't mind winning. It can be pretty cool. Doesn't get me in a tizzy. I also don't really care about losing either though. I don't particularly like it, certainly don't prefer it, but I would rather get my ass handed to me in a hurry so I can just move on with the rest of my day.

 

[cloudsurfer45]

If XBL was not populated by 12 year old cunts I would like multiplyaer much more. The only time I ever play FPS online is when its local or LAN games with people I know personally. When some douchebag 14 year old feels the need to proclaim vast superiority over me because he can camp in an area to get instant headshots when you round that corner is basically when I lose faith in humanity. Co-Op I just have much more fun with but even sometimes you come across total pricks in that also that gloat because they got more zombie headshots than you or a higher gamerscore. My extent of competitive games is getting drunk playing UNO or Texas Hol Em' on XBLA which I do often.

 

[Sovereignty]

This article saved my life.

No really. I will never break another controller, because it all finally makes sense.

AVOID competitive multi-player! It's so simple!