DVS BSTrD said:Let's hear Fox News spin this!
Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
So if Google pays a site to "prefer" Chrome then technically all other browsers would cost more to support since those companies aren't paying.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
On the other hand, if Google did that they'd be in the shits for another antitrust investigation. It's not that this doesn't have the potential to be abused, it is that this is a single retailer as opposed to a company that effectively controls the market already.Crono1973 said:So if Google pays a site to "prefer" Chrome then technically all other browsers would cost more to support since those companies aren't paying.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
Really, this kind of nonsense could lead to a fee for non preferred browsers all over the place. Wal Mart prefers IE, Gamestop prefers Firefox, Best Buy prefers Chrome, etc...
I know though, slippery slope fallacy right? That's what they said when people said DLC would turn bad.
It's not that it's just this one site. It's that non forward thinking people are applauding this nonsense. This is as idiotic as if I applauded a fee on those who play Call of Duty because I don't like Call of Duty. I would never do that because I can see the potential for abuse and I know that sooner or later that would come back to shoot me in the foot.Starke said:On the other hand, if Google did that they'd be in the shits for another antitrust investigation. It's not that this doesn't have the potential to be abused, it is that this is a single retailer as opposed to a company that effectively controls the market already.Crono1973 said:So if Google pays a site to "prefer" Chrome then technically all other browsers would cost more to support since those companies aren't paying.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
Really, this kind of nonsense could lead to a fee for non preferred browsers all over the place. Wal Mart prefers IE, Gamestop prefers Firefox, Best Buy prefers Chrome, etc...
I know though, slippery slope fallacy right? That's what they said when people said DLC would turn bad.
Even though MS is still supporting IE7. It might have made sense if it was abandon-ware. If a company has a problem with a browser, they announce that they are not longer supporting it like Google did.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
Yeah, well too late [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110483-Activision-Unveils-New-Call-of-Duty-Online-Service].Crono1973 said:It's not that it's just this one site. It's that non forward thinking people are applauding this nonsense. This is as idiotic as if I applauded a fee on those who play Call of Duty because I don't like Call of Duty. I would never do that because I can see the potential for abuse and I know that sooner or later that would come back to shoot me in the foot.Starke said:On the other hand, if Google did that they'd be in the shits for another antitrust investigation. It's not that this doesn't have the potential to be abused, it is that this is a single retailer as opposed to a company that effectively controls the market already.Crono1973 said:So if Google pays a site to "prefer" Chrome then technically all other browsers would cost more to support since those companies aren't paying.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
Really, this kind of nonsense could lead to a fee for non preferred browsers all over the place. Wal Mart prefers IE, Gamestop prefers Firefox, Best Buy prefers Chrome, etc...
I know though, slippery slope fallacy right? That's what they said when people said DLC would turn bad.
No, it would be better to simply stop supporting IE7 and give IE7 users links to download different browsers than to try and make fuckin money off of it.Starke said:Yeah, well too late [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110483-Activision-Unveils-New-Call-of-Duty-Online-Service].Crono1973 said:It's not that it's just this one site. It's that non forward thinking people are applauding this nonsense. This is as idiotic as if I applauded a fee on those who play Call of Duty because I don't like Call of Duty. I would never do that because I can see the potential for abuse and I know that sooner or later that would come back to shoot me in the foot.Starke said:On the other hand, if Google did that they'd be in the shits for another antitrust investigation. It's not that this doesn't have the potential to be abused, it is that this is a single retailer as opposed to a company that effectively controls the market already.Crono1973 said:So if Google pays a site to "prefer" Chrome then technically all other browsers would cost more to support since those companies aren't paying.aristos_achaion said:Makes sense, in my opinion -- charge people for what they're using. If it costs extra to support IE7, then charge IE7 users for that work.mad825 said:Bad move in my opinion, instead block them and redirect them to the latest version.
Really, this kind of nonsense could lead to a fee for non preferred browsers all over the place. Wal Mart prefers IE, Gamestop prefers Firefox, Best Buy prefers Chrome, etc...
I know though, slippery slope fallacy right? That's what they said when people said DLC would turn bad.
If a company says they won't accept one browser because they no longer support it isn't really that uncommon already. Just try surfing the web with IE6, if you don't believe me. If they want to say, "if you really want to do it this way, but we'll charge you for the inconvenience to us", that's actually not that far out of bounds either, and it's certainly more forgiving than simply saying, "fuck you, upgrade or die" which a lot of sites already do.
Are there ways we can use this for evil? Well, no shit. It's the internet, and there are corporations on the internet. Go figure. Is this the point to freak out? No. If you're that concerned about any encroachment, we've already started down that path, if you're waiting for it to get bad, this is premature.
Crono1973 said:No, it would be better to simply stop supporting IE7 and give IE7 users links to download different browsers than to try and make fuckin money off of it.
Funny, businesses already do that in other forms. If you make it inconvenient for them to do business with you, they increase their prices. Live in a different country? Most retailers will charge you more for shipping across the border. Tacking an easy to avoid surcharge onto an online purchase with expensive to support software isn't really that different from the convenience fee surcharge my utilities company's been charging the entire metro area for using their online payment system for years, and I didn't see you jump to my defense there.Kogan.com said:It?s not only costing us a huge amount, it?s affecting any business with an online presence, and costing the Internet economy millions.