OnLive Includes Whole Console as Arkham City UK Pre-Order Bonus

Yopaz

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Catchy Slogan said:
They're doing a similar thing that cable companies do when someone buys a subscription, you get the cable box for free.

It's a pretty good incentive, but I'm still not getting it.
Except you're not buying a subscription. You're buying something that costs less than the product they are giving you.
 

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Yopaz said:
Catchy Slogan said:
They're doing a similar thing that cable companies do when someone buys a subscription, you get the cable box for free.

It's a pretty good incentive, but I'm still not getting it.
Except you're not buying a subscription. You're buying something that costs less than the product they are giving you.
I said it was similar, not exactly the same. And some cable boxes tend to be more expensive than the yearly subs.
 

Yopaz

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punipunipyo said:
what? No user menu? No Model? No cloth map? No art book? No bonus CD/DVD? No sound track CD? No kids-meal toy/model/replica? No DLC content? just a receiving box?

I don't PAY to RENT games, I OWN them, SHOW them, Collect them (dumps all the bad ones though...) paying for Cloud Gaming is like paying for Blockbuster gaming... as if you pay for monthly membership, but the rental store is next to you... but you have to play it over LAN... is it worth it? I say if the connection is solid, HD, and Load time is reduced, and it cost only like $12/mo, it could be nice... but if it's like $60 per, I'd drop it, because I buy about one title per month...
Did you even check out what OnLive is and how it works before you started that rant? You can rent a game for 3 days, a week, a month or buy it and keep it forever for $50. Membership is free, or you can pay for a membership which includes a buttload of games (including Borderlnds, Batman Arkham Asylum and Saints Row 2) for $10 a month.
 

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OnLive consoles are cheap. Somewhere along the lines of less than $25/Unit to produce. The logic is that once you get the console, your probably going to buy more games for it.
 

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The whole thing looks really good, it really does, but I still dont understand what their target demographic is. Who is it for? Everyone? Little kids? Adults?
Do you listen to Totalbiscuit by any chance, he said almost the same thing in his last mailbox episode.

And it is a valid question as to who exactly this service is intended to draw in.
 

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darkstone said:
Catchy Slogan said:
They're doing a similar thing that cable companies do when someone buys a subscription, you get the cable box for free.

It's a pretty good incentive, but I'm still not getting it.
Do you listen to Totalbiscuit by any chance, he said almost the same thing in his last mailbox episode.

And it is a valid question as to who exactly this service is intended to draw in.
TotalBiscuit? It rings a bell, but I can't quite remember where it's from :/

Does he do a thing with TotalHalibut? I only watch some of his stuff now and then.
 

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i struggle to best 65kbs up and 800 kbs down most of the time, so this kind of thing is impossible for me :p
 

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Catchy Slogan said:
darkstone said:
Catchy Slogan said:
They're doing a similar thing that cable companies do when someone buys a subscription, you get the cable box for free.

It's a pretty good incentive, but I'm still not getting it.
Do you listen to Totalbiscuit by any chance, he said almost the same thing in his last mailbox episode.

And it is a valid question as to who exactly this service is intended to draw in.
TotalBiscuit? It rings a bell, but I can't quite remember where it's from :/

Does he do a thing with TotalHalibut? I only watch some of his stuff now and then.
It's the same person, and I quoted you on accident sorry.
 

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Their console is pretty useless, so they might as well give it for free.
You can just plug a cheap laptop with an X-box 360 controller to your TV and you'll get the same result.
 

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They were doing it for Saints Row The Third last week, then they changed the preorder bonus for that to just a coupon.
Sgt. Dante said:
I was just wondering about this,

UK users get their first game for £1 if they sign up now,
If you pre-order batman you get a free console.

Can you pre-order the batman for £1 and receive the console with it? Because for £1 i'd defo give this the old college try.
No. The £1 deal only works on games which are already out. If you try and use it on a preorder, then it'll wipe the discount out and you'll have to contact support to get a £1 game. Same thing happens if you decide to subscribe before buying too, it wipes your discount out.
 

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For the people who are asking what the demographic is, it's people like me who have shitty computers and fuck all chance of getting better ones.
Yopaz said:
punipunipyo said:
what? No user menu? No Model? No cloth map? No art book? No bonus CD/DVD? No sound track CD? No kids-meal toy/model/replica? No DLC content? just a receiving box?

I don't PAY to RENT games, I OWN them, SHOW them, Collect them (dumps all the bad ones though...) paying for Cloud Gaming is like paying for Blockbuster gaming... as if you pay for monthly membership, but the rental store is next to you... but you have to play it over LAN... is it worth it? I say if the connection is solid, HD, and Load time is reduced, and it cost only like $12/mo, it could be nice... but if it's like $60 per, I'd drop it, because I buy about one title per month...
Did you even check out what OnLive is and how it works before you started that rant? You can rent a game for 3 days, a week, a month or buy it and keep it forever for $50. Membership is free, or you can pay for a membership which includes a buttload of games (including Borderlnds, Batman Arkham Asylum and Saints Row 2) for $10 a month.
Well, not exactly, no. See, it's not like Steam, where you completely own a digital copy of the game. You're basically purchasing the rights to play the game for as long as Onlive has the rights to host it. When you buy games on Onlive, the purchase agreement always says something like "this game will be available until at least (date)", which is presumably when they have to decide whether or not to renew the contract.

No, Onlive is not perfect, yes buying the games is better, but it's let me play games I've wanted to play for years, that my comp would burst into flames if I tried to run without it.
 

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Akihiko said:
They were doing it for Saints Row The Third last week, then they changed the preorder bonus for that to just a coupon.
Sgt. Dante said:
I was just wondering about this,

UK users get their first game for £1 if they sign up now,
If you pre-order batman you get a free console.

Can you pre-order the batman for £1 and receive the console with it? Because for £1 i'd defo give this the old college try.
No. The £1 deal only works on games which are already out. If you try and use it on a preorder, then it'll wipe the discount out and you'll have to contact support to get a £1 game. Same thing happens if you decide to subscribe before buying too, it wipes your discount out.
Gutted, but i suppose they have to make their money some how, xD

Still a really decent deal tho, well worth a look.
 

Yopaz

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Maphysto said:
For the people who are asking what the demographic is, it's people like me who have shitty computers and fuck all chance of getting better ones.
Yopaz said:
punipunipyo said:
what? No user menu? No Model? No cloth map? No art book? No bonus CD/DVD? No sound track CD? No kids-meal toy/model/replica? No DLC content? just a receiving box?

I don't PAY to RENT games, I OWN them, SHOW them, Collect them (dumps all the bad ones though...) paying for Cloud Gaming is like paying for Blockbuster gaming... as if you pay for monthly membership, but the rental store is next to you... but you have to play it over LAN... is it worth it? I say if the connection is solid, HD, and Load time is reduced, and it cost only like $12/mo, it could be nice... but if it's like $60 per, I'd drop it, because I buy about one title per month...
Did you even check out what OnLive is and how it works before you started that rant? You can rent a game for 3 days, a week, a month or buy it and keep it forever for $50. Membership is free, or you can pay for a membership which includes a buttload of games (including Borderlnds, Batman Arkham Asylum and Saints Row 2) for $10 a month.
Well, not exactly, no. See, it's not like Steam, where you completely own a digital copy of the game. You're basically purchasing the rights to play the game for as long as Onlive has the rights to host it. When you buy games on Onlive, the purchase agreement always says something like "this game will be available until at least (date)", which is presumably when they have to decide whether or not to renew the contract.

No, Onlive is not perfect, yes buying the games is better, but it's let me play games I've wanted to play for years, that my comp would burst into flames if I tried to run without it.
Well of course, just as you can only play Xbox games until the disc is too worn out to be usable OnLive isn't completely permanent. Heck, even Steam could fail (chances are low right now though) and make your whole game library there useless. Nothing in life is permanent. Physical things break. Digital things may disappear. What I said could boil down to 2 things.
People should check their facts before making pointless rants.
OnLive offers both rental and purchase service.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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This is not a bonus, this is a scam. They want to scam you into you using their shitty game rental service. When you pre-order on other systems you get actual bonuses.
 

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Yopaz said:
Maphysto said:
For the people who are asking what the demographic is, it's people like me who have shitty computers and fuck all chance of getting better ones.
Yopaz said:
punipunipyo said:
what? No user menu? No Model? No cloth map? No art book? No bonus CD/DVD? No sound track CD? No kids-meal toy/model/replica? No DLC content? just a receiving box?

I don't PAY to RENT games, I OWN them, SHOW them, Collect them (dumps all the bad ones though...) paying for Cloud Gaming is like paying for Blockbuster gaming... as if you pay for monthly membership, but the rental store is next to you... but you have to play it over LAN... is it worth it? I say if the connection is solid, HD, and Load time is reduced, and it cost only like $12/mo, it could be nice... but if it's like $60 per, I'd drop it, because I buy about one title per month...
Did you even check out what OnLive is and how it works before you started that rant? You can rent a game for 3 days, a week, a month or buy it and keep it forever for $50. Membership is free, or you can pay for a membership which includes a buttload of games (including Borderlnds, Batman Arkham Asylum and Saints Row 2) for $10 a month.
Well, not exactly, no. See, it's not like Steam, where you completely own a digital copy of the game. You're basically purchasing the rights to play the game for as long as Onlive has the rights to host it. When you buy games on Onlive, the purchase agreement always says something like "this game will be available until at least (date)", which is presumably when they have to decide whether or not to renew the contract.

No, Onlive is not perfect, yes buying the games is better, but it's let me play games I've wanted to play for years, that my comp would burst into flames if I tried to run without it.
Well of course, just as you can only play Xbox games until the disc is too worn out to be usable OnLive isn't completely permanent. Heck, even Steam could fail (chances are low right now though) and make your whole game library there useless. Nothing in life is permanent. Physical things break. Digital things may disappear. What I said could boil down to 2 things.
People should check their facts before making pointless rants.
OnLive offers both rental and purchase service.
First, Yes, I rant about this because I see it as another form of Blockbuster, if i miss understood in ANY way, I am sorry, But keep in mind that I have NEVER used/look in to this service. Thus, from what I read, that was what I thought...

Second, I took it, when I purchase a game, I am voting, voting for what "should be made" and when I don't purchase, I am also voting for "what not to be made again", there are good games out there that you will only play through once, but they focuses on that ONE TIME game play, if you rent it, (payed) you are less likely to purchase for another $50 just to receive a box of a game that you have already finished. thus, you have just voted for "this game sux, I rent" but the fact is that you too enjoyed that game... and now they are not going to make another one like it...

Third, yes, $60 for a game is shitty deal, but who made that happened? if the game companies have all the supports they needed, they'd just be happy to make better games, and let artists rome freely to discovering new ways to create better experiences. However, that isn't true, shit games that uses DRM/Steam(BTW they DO mess up, recently, my bro purchased Dead Island, and the Steam Code were stolen!)/Cut contents for launch day buyers, $15 DLC maps, and Launch day patches... ETC. Hey! I am a buyer! I too were treated like criminal, but I believe, that if I cast my vote, (may not be much) but there will be more of us if we keep encourage each other to support the games we like, and not buy shitty games, we could eventually redirect the market. Rent/Pawn/Used games for good games is hurting the market, that's all I am saying, just flavoring to get more people off that, that's all, didn't know about the buying service... but if every one IS "casting their votes" by buying the good games "after they've tried/rent through a good game", then, I true have nothing to say, but you and I know that this isn't true, They(most people) rent, play, and will not contribute, their vote, simply because "we are too poor", "this game have no replay value"...ETC
 

Yopaz

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punipunipyo said:
Yopaz said:
Maphysto said:
For the people who are asking what the demographic is, it's people like me who have shitty computers and fuck all chance of getting better ones.
Yopaz said:
punipunipyo said:
what? No user menu? No Model? No cloth map? No art book? No bonus CD/DVD? No sound track CD? No kids-meal toy/model/replica? No DLC content? just a receiving box?

I don't PAY to RENT games, I OWN them, SHOW them, Collect them (dumps all the bad ones though...) paying for Cloud Gaming is like paying for Blockbuster gaming... as if you pay for monthly membership, but the rental store is next to you... but you have to play it over LAN... is it worth it? I say if the connection is solid, HD, and Load time is reduced, and it cost only like $12/mo, it could be nice... but if it's like $60 per, I'd drop it, because I buy about one title per month...
Did you even check out what OnLive is and how it works before you started that rant? You can rent a game for 3 days, a week, a month or buy it and keep it forever for $50. Membership is free, or you can pay for a membership which includes a buttload of games (including Borderlnds, Batman Arkham Asylum and Saints Row 2) for $10 a month.
Well, not exactly, no. See, it's not like Steam, where you completely own a digital copy of the game. You're basically purchasing the rights to play the game for as long as Onlive has the rights to host it. When you buy games on Onlive, the purchase agreement always says something like "this game will be available until at least (date)", which is presumably when they have to decide whether or not to renew the contract.

No, Onlive is not perfect, yes buying the games is better, but it's let me play games I've wanted to play for years, that my comp would burst into flames if I tried to run without it.
Well of course, just as you can only play Xbox games until the disc is too worn out to be usable OnLive isn't completely permanent. Heck, even Steam could fail (chances are low right now though) and make your whole game library there useless. Nothing in life is permanent. Physical things break. Digital things may disappear. What I said could boil down to 2 things.
People should check their facts before making pointless rants.
OnLive offers both rental and purchase service.
First, Yes, I rant about this because I see it as another form of Blockbuster, if i miss understood in ANY way, I am sorry, But keep in mind that I have NEVER used/look in to this service. Thus, from what I read, that was what I thought...

Second, I took it, when I purchase a game, I am voting, voting for what "should be made" and when I don't purchase, I am also voting for "what not to be made again", there are good games out there that you will only play through once, but they focuses on that ONE TIME game play, if you rent it, (payed) you are less likely to purchase for another $50 just to receive a box of a game that you have already finished. thus, you have just voted for "this game sux, I rent" but the fact is that you too enjoyed that game... and now they are not going to make another one like it...

Third, yes, $60 for a game is shitty deal, but who made that happened? if the game companies have all the supports they needed, they'd just be happy to make better games, and let artists rome freely to discovering new ways to create better experiences. However, that isn't true, shit games that uses DRM/Steam(BTW they DO mess up, recently, my bro purchased Dead Island, and the Steam Code were stolen!)/Cut contents for launch day buyers, $15 DLC maps, and Launch day patches... ETC. Hey! I am a buyer! I too were treated like criminal, but I believe, that if I cast my vote, (may not be much) but there will be more of us if we keep encourage each other to support the games we like, and not buy shitty games, we could eventually redirect the market. Rent/Pawn/Used games for good games is hurting the market, that's all I am saying, just flavoring to get more people off that, that's all, didn't know about the buying service... but if every one IS "casting their votes" by buying the good games "after they've tried/rent through a good game", then, I true have nothing to say, but you and I know that this isn't true, They(most people) rent, play, and will not contribute, their vote, simply because "we are too poor", "this game have no replay value"...ETC
Well the case with Blockbusters is that the same game gets rented several times. There's no way for a publisher to track how much a game is actually being enjoyed based on the rental service.
However OnLive records progress, playtime, how much money each game generates, and of course how many actual sales.
The publisher gets a cut and statistics of how much time the gamer spends playing. That's more detailed than what you'd get from normal retail sales. Let's say volition notices that the most commonly played sidequest/mini game in Saints Row 2 is Mayhem. Then they will make sure to include that in the next game. They also notice that fight club and crowd control are rarely played after they have finished them once and got their reward for it. Then they will get the message that those are unpopular and should not be included.
OnLive is not perfect in any way. It's still in an early phase where it needs to be improved. Probably OnLive isn't going to be the streaming service that kicks off game streaming either. It does however mend the gap between gamers and make it more convenient for those who travel a lot (given you're going somewhere with internet connection and you do have a laptop or a tablet). Laptops are getting cheaper, the battery capacity is increasing. Gamer laptop are however still pretty expensive with crappy batteries. When we can all play the same games no matter what our hardware we wont have to argue why PCs are better, or that PC gaming is too expensive. OnLive is a good idea, but it wont necessarily succeed. However the fact that it's streaming the game means you have to be connected to the internet to play so it's not all good.