Opinions on games dropping Windows XP support.

[Fenring]

As someone who is used to Macs and Vista/7, I'm gonna say XP sucks. Since I've never met anyone who runs 64-bi XP, and have heard it is crap, I'm going to assume everyone who runs XP is limited to 32-bit, which limits many parts of a computer. If computer enthusiasts want to complain about consolfication of games and PC barely being better than PS360, then they need to get XP killed so PC games can move on to DX10/11 and higher end stuff faster.

 

[runedeadthA]

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O.K I get where some people are coming from, but seriously "It's been 9 years, thats enough etc", "It's holding us back"....What? Seriously What?! Holding you back? So are you saying that technology hasn't been advancing quick enough due to XP? WTF. Crysis is a substantial step from when XP came out right? And it only came out a couple of years ago. Since then graphics HAVE in improved, A bit (since even games like Kung Fu Panda can look GREAT there is less focus on this) And Performance ratio's have been steadily improving as well.
As for the "It's been 9 years" argument...Well the software works, It is well liked with a nice interface and fairly easy to learn. If the shoe still fits and Hasn't worn through why throw it out? Have you really fallen so far under the spell of consumerism that you fallen for the "More! New! More Expensive!" shtick?

As for the "Improvements" new OS's offer, Well vista was a large step DOWN from XP, and 7 just bumps that preformance up to standard. One of the very very few thing's newer OS's offer is DX10/11 which anyone who edited the Crysis graphics on DX9 will tell you is not a very big step at all.

SO maybe its this focus on NEW NEW NEW that is the problem thats holding us back. Quality, And long lasting support is what I want, not some overpriced, low performance piece of crap that was or will soon be obsolete immediately on release.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

It's not really dropping support so much as making games on a more advanced platform with greater capabilities.

 

[Rack]

I hate it. My PC is coming up to it's 5th birthday. It's got XP and Vista and a DX10 card and is capable of running any game out there that's been half-way optimised on near max settings.

Games without XP support offer me an ogres choice though. Do I skip them entirely? Or do I switch to my Vista partition? Vista is truly horrible as an OS, many times slower than XP with a set of nuisances and a whole array of annoying bugs not to mention stability issues. Then what do I switch to Vista only to play non-xp games? That's a huge faff. Do I spend £100 upgrading to Win7 when my PC is only a couple of years from needing replacing anyway?

There's liteally no good choice there. If DX10 and Vista weren't such a horrible mess then I could understand this, but this move is really only made relevant by DX11 and Win7 and they aren't even a year old yet. PC gaming has a horrible reputation for needing upgrades every few months which mostly isn't justified, but here we are in a situation when PC not yet a year old will be need of an upgrade because there were no viable OS options at the time. That's not right, no matter how old an OS is it shouldn't be made redundant unless it's replacement is five years old. In this case Vista was an abortion and Win7 is still hot off the presses.

 

[Squilookle]

It's not really dropping support so much as marketing games on a more advanced platform with greater capabilities, for greater profit.

Fixed that one for ya

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

It's not really dropping support so much as marketing games on a more advanced platform with greater capabilities, for greater profit.

Fixed that one for ya.

No, you didn't. While I can appreciate a "Fixed" for humour's sake, doing it to misrepresent someone's opinion is not cool. It's not about profit, it's about having greater freedom in the development of a game. Having a more advanced platform allows more to be done. It's the same as needing a newer GPU, CPU or more RAM.

 

[RanD00M]

If you have a computer running XP and can play modern games, upgrade

No. I am not going to spend a fortune on an OS that I don't even like using. Also, upgrading would mean that I would have to spend at least one day just transferring stuff onto my external hard drive just so it wouldn't get lost in the process of upgrading.
I'll just stick with XP until I HAVE TO upgrade.

OT: I really don't care about it. The only game that I know of that has dropped XP support is Just Cause 2. All the games that I'm looking forward to on the PC are XP compatible as far as I know.

 

[Hashime]

If you have a computer running XP and can play modern games, upgrade

No. I am not going to spend a fortune on an OS that I don't even like using. Also, upgrading would mean that I would have to spend at least one day just transferring stuff onto my external hard drive just so it wouldn't get lost in the process of upgrading.
I'll just stick with XP until I HAVE TO upgrade.

OT: I really don't care about it. The only game that I know of that has dropped XP support is Just Cause 2. All the games that I'm looking forward to on the PC are XP compatible as far as I know.

XP compatibility is holding back games. DX10 and DX11 don't fully run on XP. Windows 7 costs $100, and if you are a student much less (at my school free)

 

[Squilookle]

Alright, wink smiley face reinserted, geez.

I'm sorry the humour was too subtle.

 

[rafarulez]

XP is definetely old. But still, i use it and its kinda an "ah well.." moment for me when i heard this news. But it has to happen someday i guess. Probably the same thing will happen to windows 7 in like..5 or 6 years maybe? i dunno. Still anyone else think they should make an upgraded version of XP as the next one after windows 7? lolz >;3

 

[HuntrRose]

Not everyone lives in a first-world country and has the capabilities to update their computer every four years. I know I must seem like a whiny *****, but it's true; I personally am going to have to wait two years before my parents are willing to buy me a new computer. So I'd definitely be pissed about losing XP support.

If your computer can run the latest games, it can run win7. Just upgrade the OS and not the computer.

On the other hand, if it can't run win7 it won't run the newer games so you won't feel the effect anyway.

 

[island.rascal]

Let's just sum this up shall we.

1) XP, regardless of any ones current setup, was a rock-solid, well preforming piece of software and I think most people in this thread acknowlge that fact.

2) Windows XP has had a long and wonderful life.

3) DX11 will NOT run on Windows XP

4) Making a game work with DX9, 10, and 11 is NOT just adding "a few hours of code" that's like saying that if someone writes a book in English, they only have to type up a few more paragraphs to make it readable to Japanese.

5) Windows XP (the GOOD version anyways) is a 32-bit operating system, this severely limits what can be done from an architectual point of view for games, along with limits like the ~3GB of RAM.

6) Gaming publishers should NOT have to go out of the way to support a dying OS. Can you take your '86 Civic into your local Honda dealer and get warranty work done on it? No, you can't, because it's illogical to try and support something that is far beyond it's prime.

7) Just because you think that XP is the greatest thing in the world and are too ignorant to give a new OS a fair chance doesn't mean that you have the right opinion.

8) If you can't afford a new computer, you probably shouldn't be spending money on a $60USD video game. Instead of getting the next game you want, put the money in a little jar labeled "Gaming Computer Fund." For less than $600 you should be able to build you a fairly decent rig.

9) If "your parents" can't afford or won't buy you one...just GTFO



TL;DR Anyone who has XP and doesn't upgrade will soon find that their game library will stop growing, end of story.

 

[Mortons4ck]

Wouldn't be so bad if Windows Vista/7 didn't have such terrible legacy support when it came games (amongst other applications, but that's another argument for another thread). Lack of legacy support just turns the PC into another console.

edit: Sorry let me recant that last statement. The Wii, with its virtual console, has better legacy support than a Windows 7 PC.

Wrong. I have every game I've ever bought installed on my PC, running Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. And I'm talking like Baldur's Gate, Giants: Citizen Kabuto, Fallout 1, Final Fantasy 7, Planescape: Torment, etc etc. They all run fine without the need for DOSBox or any other extra application.

Only ONE game won't install/play right. Grim Fandango. Unfortunate, but I can live with having every other game at my fingertips.

Where did you get your information?

I tried out a copy of it last year, while I was taking a comp lab class (it was one of those academic test licenses so it expired after a few months). I decided to experiment with some games to see if they'd run okay. I had trouble running Deus Ex (CD version) and Baldur's Gate (DVD version), Deus Ex especially. After the licenses expired, I really saw no reason to lay down a few hundred for a product that couldn't what XP could do but guzzled system resources like no tomorrow. But it has been a year, and maybe Microsoft has done some work under the hood. So I may have to try it again, because it sounds like some people are satisfied with it.


Question, are you running the GOG versions of those games?

 

[Yossarian1507]

Well, I'm not that pissed about games not having XP support anymore.

I'm more pissed about (and it's the main reason it will take long time before I'll finally change my XP), are games which refused to run on any newer OS after XP. Mainly, because some of those my favorite games of all time.

Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory? Gone
Star Wars: Republic Commando? Nu-uh
Brothers in Arms: Road To Hill 30? Nope
Championship Manager 2001-2002 (aka the last football/soccer manager I truly enjoyed)? Forget about it.
More and more titles...

So no. I won't switch to 7, unless the amount of great games without the XP support will surpass the number of great games without Vista/7 support.

Besides - 90% of triple A releases are also on consoles, so I can just buy them on my PS3. There, problem solved.

 

[CrazyMedic]

well I am running this on windows seven and it is perfectly fine so anyone who hasn't upgraded doesn't really care.

 

[Patton662]

XP is 9 years old now, I know that many people are attached to it but it was the same with W98 when XP first came out.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Altho I don't see a reason for switching to a newer Win version I do support the shift.
Progress must go on and not hang back on old standards, we don't want another damn IE6 that can't be killed (even with fire).
But I do wish there would be a non-bullshit Win7 version, having all that eye candy weighing down the computer doesn't help with anything, especially not games.

 

[00slash00]

i think they should focus on windows 7 but shouldnt drop xp. i like xp much more than windows 7, but i also recognize that, in a lot of ways, windows 7 is superior and game companies should take more advantage of it. but xp is the best os i have ever used and i would hate to see it just forgotten

 

[Darth_Dude]

Personally I want to know why they dropped support for Windows 3.0

That was a damn good operating system.

I fear change!

Windows what?

 

[SuperNashwan]

I read somewhere a while back that Microsoft had been poised to stop selling / catering for XP quite some time ago. What apparently stopped them, was that some of the major manufacturers like DELL turned round and said "no one will buy our PC's if we ship them with Vista, because people think its terrible". So MS extended the licensing for XP - thats what I heard. So to be honest, by now it really already could have disappeared if Vista hadn't met with such criticism.

I am guessing that as Windows 7 seems to have been received pretty well, this is why the "Axe XP" thing has come around again.

Personally I dont want to shell out £50-70 for W7 (or however much an upgrade pack is) but I am pretty sure I have a machine that can run it. Eventually I just have to bite the bullet I guess, though I hope that back compatibility remains. The DX series have always been good at that, so hopefully no reason to worry?