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Rattja

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Froggy Slayer said:
Rattja said:
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Wait, are you saying that you can't comprehend the instinctual desire of a species to procreate? Look, I don't particularly want kids either, but I get why most people do.
That's right, I can't. That is my opinion, however wrong you may find it.
 

The White Hunter

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
SkarKrow said:
Not to mention all those people who will oppose any kind of clean energy production such asz nuclear plants and wind farms whilst also being incredibly self righteous about the environment.

Yeah, fuck those guys.
Not sure if Sir Chasm,

but I agree on the soon to be man-made nuclear debacle bit.

Wind farms come with their own severe issues, such as totally going bonkers on the existing power network.

The folks labelling themselves 'green' around here have a jaw-breaking red core, and it shows. They want to 'protect' the environment, but just the other day they wanted us to agree on burning down half of a local forest so they could go live in the woods, in the cradle of nature. Or building roofs over our local highways. Or otherwise messing with anything that isn't messed up yet. They are living an utopia, and we all have to pay. Monetarily now and with everything we've got in the future to come.
No Sir Chasm here good sir. Straight up fuck those hypocrites.

We have a growing problem with opposition to alternative energy sources in the UK where people want it so long as it's nowhere near them. So we see wind farms and nuclear stations repeatedly denied because it would make the view out of auntie mabels back window have a fucking windmill in it somewhere.
 

Vegosiux

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Oh right, another thing I don't get - "When sex is bad, it's still pretty good."

Uhm, no. No, bad sex is unfulfilling, boring, bland and sometimes downright depressing. I mean sure, you can get off, but blargh...
 

cerebreturns

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Let's see...

"It's legal so it's fine I do it"
"He's cheating on his gf with me, I'm perfectly innocent and not responsible for any part of the cheating, despite that i'm actively boning him"

the whole "everything is objective so nothing matters" is just sad and pathetic and I don't understand
or how about, if everything is objective people saying they can still trust one another, trust one another when everything is objective and self gain based...right...

Feminist. Why are most feminist worse at proving a point for greater women equality then nearly all non feminist?
Related...people who say that adds and movies promote rape culture because of how they sexualize women, and then turn around and say it's ok for a woman to make herself look sexual and walk around and that it in no way promotes her being looked at as a sexual object...umm...just...the amount of hypocracy and screwed up logic in that is insane

anyone who likes spiders...period

Anyone who feels that children should embrace their homosexuality and yet thinks straight kids need to quit having sex...umm...right...

Anyone who thinks anything having to do with the government or the legal system or laws is as simple as changing one thing or two things to fix even a single thing.
 

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Helmholtz Watson said:
SkarKrow said:
Not to mention all those people who will oppose any kind of clean energy production such asz nuclear plants and wind farms whilst also being incredibly self righteous about the environment.

Yeah, fuck those guys.
Well as someone who feels that the most important politic issue in modern times is the environment and clean energy, I think I can help explain why some people(such as myself) are hesitant to embrace nuclear plants. The issues I have with nuclear plants are that I haven't really seen any safe ways of getting rid of nuclear waste other than just burring it and thinking "out of sight, out of mind". That's not even getting into the concern about how you would transport the nuclear waste to the dumping/storage site. In addition to that, there is the fear that what happened in Japan could also happen at other nuclear power plants as well. Hope this clears things up.

As for wind farms, I don't oppose them so I don't really know why other people are opposed to them. Maybe they are a serious threat to birds or something, but I'm just guessing.
I use to be against nuclear energy for the what if, but some of our recent technology can make most of those never be a factor. My main concern would be the upkeep/upgrading of the plants, location, and defense if say some crazy or terrorist tried something. Also places like Michigan are perfect for never having to worry about say what happen in Japan and the cool weather and some open lands make it a good place to set without worry of effecting people in any negative way. My only other concern would be the workers of the plants, but that is always a concern with anything since humans are the worse part of anything that could go wrong.

As for getting rid of the waste some of the new tech that has and is still coming out reduces said waste and makes it less harmful then some of the stuff we already throw away. Also we have had a high tech facility in Nevada for holding nuclear waste, but stupid politician on both sides fought against it for bs reasons and cost us 100 billion dollars down the drain...
 

Vegosiux

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cerebreturns said:
Anyone who feels that children should embrace their homosexuality and yet thinks straight kids need to quit having sex...umm...right...
I actually don't see a lack of consistency in that one, since "embracing your gender preference" doesn't necessarily mean "bone everything you find attractive".

I'm not going to argue whether or not the second one is a good point to make since I'm too damn old to care, but it's not inconsistent with the first.
 

CrazyGirl17

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I've never understood why some people think that [insert race/gender sexuality here] is better than all the rest. Maybe it's the way my brain's wired...
 

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First, that pedophiles shouldn't be stripped naked and dropped in the arctic/antarctic to fend for themselves. I mean its clearly the appropriate punishment. Secondly, I don't understand how some people think that everything is a right. Driving is not a right, its a privilege hence the fact you need a licence. Its annoys me to no end when people say "they can't take my right to drive away because I was driving drunk." Also all the frivolous crap in life that some people seem to think they have a right to.
 

Oirish_Martin

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Bronies. Or the whole recent MLP fandom in general.

I guess I'm basically expecting everyone to suddenly go HAHA LOL IRONIC RANDOM in unison at some point.
 

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afroebob said:
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I can't understand why so many Americans seem to fear free healthcare while defending assault weapons with arms and teeth (nothing against Americans, just stating a fact).
To shed light on it, many Americans (myself included) dislike the idea of national healthcare because it is, by definition, a socialism and this nation is founded on the idea of capitalism. I understand that sometimes you need something that is socialistic (if that is the right term) like a postal service where is it the government having a hand in providing a service outside of defense because, at the time of its creation, there would be no way for any company to do it. However, we can have privatized healthcare. Not to say that if a person can not afford healthcare we should let them die, however. If you are poor to the point where you can't afford to pay for your own health care you should be supported.

Also, in the instance of gun control and assault weapons its (for me) not about needing an assault weapon to defend myself from intruders (a nice 12 gauge would to just fine), it is to defend myself from my government. I am not saying it will happen any time soon (if at all) but 25 years down the road there might be a time were the citizens of this country revolt against the government. If that happens I want to at least have a weapon that would stand a fighting chance. Like I said, if this ever does happen it I don't see it happening for a VERY long time, but it doesn't mean it wont. Look at Lybia. Look at Egypt. The people in those countries aren't that different from you and me. If where I live gets anywhere close to as bad as they had it I would be more than willing to pick up my gun and fight for my freedom and I want to make sure I got the best weapons to do it with.

Oh, and BTW, you said free healthcare. That's actually not anywhere near accurate. Nothing is free, and if we didn't pay directly for each visit to the doctor we would be paying it through our taxes, not to mention a LOT of that money would be going to the national debt which is fucking enormous.
Well said. Also, the seemingly pro-gun stance is also an anti-clueless-congressman-regulating-guns-arbitrarily stance. I mean really... an "assault weapon" by law is not necessarily some fully-automatic rifle. It's more "scary looking gun" than anything.

Also, I consider myself libertarian (American libertarianism, maximum freedom, least government), and so the "free health care" thing doesn't quite mesh with that too well. Nor does it work with fiscal responsibility, at least in the long term and in a nation of over 300 million people.
 

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While I have mocked (and will continue to mock) American foreign and domestic policy, and some of its more baffling cultural mentalities (I am very much an Eurocentrist), I just don't understand people "hating" on "imperialist USA" during the Cold War/post-events of 11 September 2001.

You know them, the people who go: "The 'Mericuns were EVUL in Vietnam. Unjust war!" Or "'Merica policed the world! They were imperialist!"

Yeah, sure. The US government showed some imperialist tendencies. But the "argument" is often "underpinned" by referring to US hypocrisy. Most, if not all US Presidents up to Reagan expressed it to be their nation's intend to spread democracy and human rights throughout the world (Reagan seemed more concerned with just Killin' Commies). But then, so the detractors say, the CIA and the army supported, trained and fought with dictatorships throughout Middle- and South-America, Africa and Asia.

That's true, but y'know which other superpower ALSO pledged to support human rights and democracy? Yessir, the USSR.

TL;DR: Fuck people who write that the US government was "worse" than whatever (phantom) enemy it was fighting the past century. It wasn't, it was equally "evil" at worst, and less horrible in most cases.
 

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Blablahb said:
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Really, working in a drug user aid centre is truly enlightening about these things.
ah yes the old cheeseburger, "ive dealt with the worst kinds of (insert any group) people, therefore i know how bad they are"

you know like how many americans view all islamic people as extremist suicidal crazy ass, because a few committed terroist acts
 

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afroebob said:
Broax said:
I can't understand why so many Americans seem to fear free healthcare while defending assault weapons with arms and teeth (nothing against Americans, just stating a fact).
To shed light on it, many Americans (myself included) dislike the idea of national healthcare because it is, by definition, a socialism and this nation is founded on the idea of capitalism. I understand that sometimes you need something that is socialistic (if that is the right term) like a postal service where is it the government having a hand in providing a service outside of defense because, at the time of its creation, there would be no way for any company to do it. However, we can have privatized healthcare. Not to say that if a person can not afford healthcare we should let them die, however. If you are poor to the point where you can't afford to pay for your own health care you should be supported.

Also, in the instance of gun control and assault weapons its (for me) not about needing an assault weapon to defend myself from intruders (a nice 12 gauge would to just fine), it is to defend myself from my government. I am not saying it will happen any time soon (if at all) but 25 years down the road there might be a time were the citizens of this country revolt against the government. If that happens I want to at least have a weapon that would stand a fighting chance. Like I said, if this ever does happen it I don't see it happening for a VERY long time, but it doesn't mean it wont. Look at Lybia. Look at Egypt. The people in those countries aren't that different from you and me. If where I live gets anywhere close to as bad as they had it I would be more than willing to pick up my gun and fight for my freedom and I want to make sure I got the best weapons to do it with.

Oh, and BTW, you said free healthcare. That's actually not anywhere near accurate. Nothing is free, and if we didn't pay directly for each visit to the doctor we would be paying it through our taxes, not to mention a LOT of that money would be going to the national debt which is fucking enormous.
ill even use some grammar for this which is very unusual AHEM

Again short sighted views who isn't really paying much attention. Let's start with private business, why is that so supported? For the life of me I have never found one person who can tell me why private companies are better than government ran companies when it comes to mass service? Am I the only one to think that the government, you know that one thing that is suppose to be about the people you elect to represent you, would do a better job at providing something than a private for-profit company would? Seriously, just consider this idea, no its not a bad or immoral thing that the company wants to make money, thats what companies are for, to make money, provide jobs, produce things. So when you get sick next time think about that, you hear about people getting denied coverage for things, and the annual cap on how much your covered for and remember that the people your intrusting with your life have more interest in making money than making sure your alive. Again I'm not saying their bad or evil, but as you would have agreed just a few lines ago that a companies purpose is to make money, provide jobs, and such. HOWEVER, the government, the only reason the government exists is for our protection, organization, and the pursuit of the interests of the American people, why would we not get the money that could potentially save our lives from them, just why?

A real life example of this, im a national paintball player for The Paintball Plex in Fort Wayne Indiana, last year on the way to Chicago for an event we took highways there, and I don't about nationally but in our region the government has been selling parts of the highway to private corporations. Let me also say thats very silly and again I'm not blaming those companies I just disapprove whole heartily of the government selling the highways to begin with. Anyways after we got our ticket at the tollbooth when entering a private section, the private highways toll charges was just under twice the governments highway's rates. I'm not bullshitting you here, every ticket we got on average was 6-10 dollars more on the private highway. Need I also mention that some inmates are sueing a private prison, not to even mention how infamously subpar they are known to be.

As far as guns go, your again silly. Anyone who thinks that a civilian uprising would work against any modern military today is clinically insane, or just hasn't thought about it to much. Even if some people were to attempt it assult weapons wouldn't be what you wanted unbanned. You would want: artillery, anti tank weapons, mines, high calibre machine gun ammo, machine guns, tanks, jet planes, missiles, massive amounts of oil, body armour, explosives, a standing fucking army. Again not even going to get into the unreasonable amount of things you would need that are even legal.
 

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I personally do not understand the idea of some people saying it is against the government in case of uprising.

I mean US has the most advanced army on the planet and do these people think their M16's going to stop a SWAT team? Or a B2? That is absurd as people with jagged rocks posing a threat to US. I would love to get some explaination on that
 

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I don't understand protective parents.

Every protective parent seems intent on defending their child from all harm and consequences of their actions. I can understand that you don't want your child to kill themselves accidentally by climbing up the shelf but maybe you should consider letting them get hurt from climbing something as a learning experience if it's not going to do lasting damage. I may just not be a "baby" person but I don't understand people's fixation on giving their children the "perfect" childhood. Your job as a parent is to equip your child with the tools to interpret and adapt to the world and that means you have to let them fend for themselves.

That its wrong to eat meat, something i've never understood and probably never will
The thinking behind this goes something like this: If you are eating meat it means you are devouring another entity which had it's own consciousness and you ended that consciousness just because you liked how they tasted which makes you even worse than a thoughtless animal which can't comprehend the significance of it's own actions because you knew what you were doing and how petty your reasons for doing so were and you did it anyway.

Basically it boils down to whether you consider someone "less" of a conscious entity if they are less intelligent than you.

I'm not a vegetarian but that's my understanding of the reasoning.
 

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This topic came about through me watching Highlander with a group of friends. I personally LOVE the film, its got everything; sci-fi, fantasy, sword fighting and Sean Connery. Whats not to love? I admit the sequels were an abomination against mankind but the first Highlander film was great. After we watched it, a couple of people said it was good but many of my friends said it was one of the worst films they've ever seen, some saying it was THE worst film they've ever seen. Now, i'm a film studies student and have also seen a shit-ton of movies so I know Highlander isn't the best film of all time but I just can't understand people hating it seeing movies like Baby Geniuses and Son of The Mask exist, its just unfathomable to me.
But... But... That movie was awesome! The Kurgan and swords and stuff! Lambert learnt English for that movie. (He's a Frenchie.) And the entire soundtrack was done by Queen specifically for that movie.

It was awesome! I loved the French revolution scene where he's drunk and he just wont die. Gold!

Your friends are whack. :)
 

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Oh, some people are going to take issue with this.

I don't see how anyone could think Skyward Sword is the best Zelda game ever made. I can understand people liking it better then I did, sure...but the BEST ONE? That hand-holding, linear, overly repetitive game somehow outdoes Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, Link to the Past, the Oracle games, and okay by this point I'm just naming every game in the franchise except Phantom Hourglass, but you get the point.

Just to be clear I still overall *liked* Skyward Sword, it's not as if I was loathing it or desperate to turn it off but I do think it's by far the weakest of the 3D Zelda's.
 

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Easton Dark said:
Unconditional love does not and should not exist. People earn your love like they earn your trust.
I'd like to point out that technically, you're wrong there. Young children form unconditional bonds with others whether or not they show any particular kindness, they just have to be around a lot. This is also where the repulsion towards incest comes from.

For the sake of adding something more to the thread, I don't understand the sheer amount of wilful ignorance that goes into young earth creationism. I can kind of understand religion, although I'm an atheist, but I will never understand people that ignore all evidence in favour of a literal interpretation of the Bible.