Orange Box Sequel?
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Sorry man, but considering the 10 year gap between the original Team Fortress and Team Fortress 2, I doubt Team Fortress 3 will be coming out anytime soon...dead_beat_slacker said:
I'd buy that for a dollar! Or for 50-60 euro, which it would probably cost here. Sounds like a great deal in any case. I hope it happens.
To make you try your best not to die. It creates extra tension beyond feeling bad about dying and letting your team down you're also put into the penalty box.Leekilicious said:
The thing falls flat with a bunch of newbies or people who don't care about teamwork around though.
I love the CoD4 fights with this enabled, suddenly everybody is on their guard.
I'd mused with a few friends last year that VALVE should release Half-Life 2: Episode 3, Portal 2 and Left 4 Dead together in one package, a la The Orange Box (which we thought was a great deal, what with 5 games for the price of 1, and also introduced us console gamers to the Half-Life series).
It's a shame that I won't get Left 4 Dead in the fashion, but still, anything like the sequel to The Orange Box gets my support.
It's a shame that I won't get Left 4 Dead in the fashion, but still, anything like the sequel to The Orange Box gets my support.
I understand how the no respawn aspect works, and thankfully in CS it's not like COD4 which results in the spawn points being spammed with rockets, grenades, and 40mm grenades fired from rifles. However, long spawn times don't work for a regular team-deathmatch or a lot of other things. Some people do enjoy the 'everyone dies a million billion times' style of COD4 deathmatch or headquarters/other deathmatch heavy objective gametypes. (Which I prefer over Team Deathmatch because it reduces the random corner camping and places it with objective camping.)Vortigar said:
To clarify things: Valve have stated that The Orange Box was them essentially taking advantage of an opportunity. They were working on three games at once (Team Fortress 2, Portal and Episode Two), and figured that they would release them along with a couple of previous titles due to the fact that they were all nearing release for the same time slot. Think of it as a gift to their players and community, not the norm. They have stated that if in the future they have more than one title ready to release at the same point, they will go ahead and do another similar package, but if Episode Three is ready and their next multiplayer game and/or Portal is still in development, they won't delay one just so they can get them all out at the same time.
there is no reason to create the orange box again. all Valve has to do is create a box set of Half life with all the games in them. and throw in some collector edition stuff in there and there we go.
I'll just wait and see what VALVe does. I trust them to do it right, like they have in the past, so I can be patient. Secretly, though, I hope that HL2e3 is as long as HL2 was. Granted, this is highly unlikely, but I'd like a thorough ending of my favourite series. (Whether it explains Gman or not!)
On an unrelated note, am I the only one who liked TFC over TF2? I find the respawning routine just nauseating in TF2. And a little infuriating when it makes a big show of who killed you, with the little freeze-frame cinematic. But, that's just me ranting.
On an unrelated note, am I the only one who liked TFC over TF2? I find the respawning routine just nauseating in TF2. And a little infuriating when it makes a big show of who killed you, with the little freeze-frame cinematic. But, that's just me ranting.
I'm sorry to say that most of the "I hopes" in this thread aren't really in keeping with things people from Valve have actually said.
Half-Life 2: Episode 3 is probably going to be a standalone for a couple of different reasons. First, because it isn't really harder to release it with a standalone executable than to release it as an expansion pack. It's just a matter of packaging the appropriate files together. It isn't even harder to download via Steam as it will piggy-back on the cache files for other source games, so downloading it will essentially be like downloading a mission pack in terms of size. It also means that you can play it even if you haven't played any previous Half-Life games. I think it's better to start at the beginning, but I can't blame Valve for not wanting to say "To play this game you have to own these other products" a statement that is anathema to many gamers (See Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles).
Secondly, Valve are almost definitely going to be using a newer version of Source than in the Episode 2, since the Left 4 Dead version contains numerous new features, and since they'll probably be adding more features specifically for Episode 3.
As far as length goes it will probably be in the 5-8 hour range since that was the whole point of doing the episodes in the first place. It's not that the couldn't do a 20 hour Half-Life game, it's just that it would take 6 years. On the other hand if they release Episode 3 before 2010 and it contains 7 hours worth of gameplay then they've essentially made Half-Life 3 (20 hours of Half-Life content released after 6 years of development) in the time it took them to make Half-Life 2 but have also released two thirds of it in two sizable chunks over the first 4 years of that time. I leave it to you to decide which way you'd rather have it (Hint: if they had been working on Half-Life 3 instead of the episodes it still wouldn't be out for another year).
As far as a new version of Source goes, maybe you haven't been paying attention. There were new versions of Source bundled with Lost Coast, Episode 1, Orange Box, and Left 4 Dead. All with improvements ranging from HDR lighting to the response rules system that has replaced sycophantic resistance members constantly telling you to reload and since evolved from Alyx occasionally dropping hints and one liners to the survivors in Left 4 Dead exchanging not-entirely-scripted banter.
Man, looking back over this post I realized that I've become quite a Valve fanatic in the past 2 years. I also just remembered that there was supposed to be an episode 3 trailer by the end of '08 that still isn't out. That's Valve time for you.
Half-Life 2: Episode 3 is probably going to be a standalone for a couple of different reasons. First, because it isn't really harder to release it with a standalone executable than to release it as an expansion pack. It's just a matter of packaging the appropriate files together. It isn't even harder to download via Steam as it will piggy-back on the cache files for other source games, so downloading it will essentially be like downloading a mission pack in terms of size. It also means that you can play it even if you haven't played any previous Half-Life games. I think it's better to start at the beginning, but I can't blame Valve for not wanting to say "To play this game you have to own these other products" a statement that is anathema to many gamers (See Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles).
Secondly, Valve are almost definitely going to be using a newer version of Source than in the Episode 2, since the Left 4 Dead version contains numerous new features, and since they'll probably be adding more features specifically for Episode 3.
As far as length goes it will probably be in the 5-8 hour range since that was the whole point of doing the episodes in the first place. It's not that the couldn't do a 20 hour Half-Life game, it's just that it would take 6 years. On the other hand if they release Episode 3 before 2010 and it contains 7 hours worth of gameplay then they've essentially made Half-Life 3 (20 hours of Half-Life content released after 6 years of development) in the time it took them to make Half-Life 2 but have also released two thirds of it in two sizable chunks over the first 4 years of that time. I leave it to you to decide which way you'd rather have it (Hint: if they had been working on Half-Life 3 instead of the episodes it still wouldn't be out for another year).
As far as a new version of Source goes, maybe you haven't been paying attention. There were new versions of Source bundled with Lost Coast, Episode 1, Orange Box, and Left 4 Dead. All with improvements ranging from HDR lighting to the response rules system that has replaced sycophantic resistance members constantly telling you to reload and since evolved from Alyx occasionally dropping hints and one liners to the survivors in Left 4 Dead exchanging not-entirely-scripted banter.
Man, looking back over this post I realized that I've become quite a Valve fanatic in the past 2 years. I also just remembered that there was supposed to be an episode 3 trailer by the end of '08 that still isn't out. That's Valve time for you.
You are decidedly not. Go check the Steam forums and you'll see what I mean. There is a large group that plays TFC or Fortress Forever instead of Team Fortress 2 as well as people who beg valve to make TF2 more like classic and even a few people doing mods and maps to make TF2 more like classic.The Shade said:
Personally I like the freeze-cam, in part because it gives me an opportunity to taunt people and in part because I often get to watch the demise of my killer. Also, you're supposed to be angry. Use that to go get revenge. Also, there are fast/instant respawn servers out there if you want to spend less time waiting to play.
NO!!!
Don't tell them to do CS2 as well!
It will take years!
I want my episode 3 now, not in ten freaking years!
Don't tell them to do CS2 as well!
It will take years!
I want my episode 3 now, not in ten freaking years!