Organ Donor i have a issue with it?

[Griffolion]

I don't mean to sound self-righteous or anything, but if my donating organs after death can save someone else's life, then I don't mind. Regardless of the person and if their disease is self-inflicted or not. Organ donation after death saves lives ('deserving' or 'undeserving') at no cost to yourself because, you know, you're dead.

Besides I trust that in a situation where a dying child or a 60 year old chain smoker and drinker are in need of one of my organs, whoever decides gets the organ makes the right decision.

 

[Kathinka]

here in the czech republic EVERYONE is an organ donor. you have to fill out a non-donor-card to carry arround if you do NOT want your organs to be donated xD a good system i think, since a lot of people are not donating only because of the paperwork.

suck on that, organ-hogs!

 

[tahrey]

Well let's think ...

They can only give your spare parts to someone who's a suitable genetic match. So, if the only person on the lung transplant waiting list that matches your profile on the day you croak is an ex smoker who only learned the dangers of their habit too late, your potential donation is wasted.

And, they're still a person. Still someone's child, parent, partner, etc. Maybe they made some mistakes regarding their health, but worthy of a death sentence? Nah. Come on.

Or just tick the box to opt out altogether.

 

[Sandytimeman]

Note: i have nothing against it i think Organ Donor's are great people i just have a issue with it.

Now i had to get Photo ID so i can go out on my 18th and i saw 'do you want to be a Organ Donar?' [its the gist of it]

and i wondered will i be able to make restrictions to who my organs go too. But you can't according to my roommate and i can't really find anything to say, except some stupid thing in which a guy didn't want his organs to go to a Black person. but none the less.

I WOULD give my organs to certain people, BUT I don't want my Lungs to got to a smoker who smoked all his life and is now ill. they can take my organs sure but i don't want it to go to someone who killed there organs with liquor drugs or Smoking. What's to stop them ruining my organs?

So what do you think about Organ Donoring?
Do you agree with me?
Shud there be restrictions on Organ Donoring like make it only family/friends can have organs?

There are restrictions, you can't smoke or drink at all from what I understood.

 

[sexbutler]

A doctor told me a story once of a young teenage couple. The girl had a congenital heart defect of some kind and suddenly fell ill, because her heart had started to fail. The boy asked if he could donate his heart and had the compatibility test done, he was a match. Less than a day later he collapsed and died, having apparently willed himself to death. She got his heart. Darkly romantic ending, etc. Ive often wondered if its possible to bequeath organs like that in your will and testament?

 

[octafish]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

 

[TheIronRuler]

A thought crossed my mind...
You're dead, why would you care about who gets your organs as long as he lives?
The tragic thing about this situation is that if you do allow someone to transplant your organs into his body, his body rejects them and the person dies afterwards becaue of your organs!

 

[Trolldor]

You're dead. What the fuck do you need 'em for?

 

[monkey jesus]

They can have whatever they like provided they have my face tattooed on their chests.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

i don't have an issue if someone else wants to donate their organs, what i don't like is when some of those people start developing this self righteous, greater than thou attitude and they start being condescending and in some cases even spiteful towards those that don't want to donate their organs

even worse is when calls for switching to mandatory organ doantion are made by some of these people.

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

Yes and no (I think). Part of the huge furore surrounding Best at the time was that he'd complied with the minimum de-tox period to get his new liver, but then went straight back on the sauce once he'd got it. Or at least that's what I seem to remember, I could be wrong on that.

 

[SamuelT]

People that harm their own organs usually are usually at the bottom of the list, mate. A chainsmoker won't get another set of lungs unless there's NOBODY on the list who deserves it more. And this line of thinking is precisely why I think no choice donation is a good thing. No one would choose a recovering drug addict over a small child, even though the addict could very well die within a week while the child could hold out for over a year or sumthing.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

SNIP
People who require organ transplants due to self-inflicted habits (smoking, drinking etc) are not put on the transplant list until they have proved that they have kicked their original habit, so that's nothing you need to worry about.
SNIP.

Except Georgie Best, but then again George Best always did things his own way.

To be fair, George Best was not only rich and famous (as if I'd hint that it could affect anything), he scored goals at football for England, therefore he's more important than anyone else in the world, right?

Screw all those people who spent their lives aiding the sick, the poor and the homeless, George dun score some goles! Let's push him to the front of the list, not fair to make him wait just because he didn't seem to understand that whisky for breakfast isn't one of your five portions of fruit n veg a day.

Note I'm not saying he shouldn't have got a transplant, I'm saying he shouldn't have got a rushed one on the NHS, not while there was other non drinkers on the waiting list.

I'm a little torn after reading his wiki page, as he seemed to be an utterly reprehensible man, but, I've always tried to stand by the idea that whatever someone does, it shouldn't affect their job, unless it's directly linked, so I'm not going to say he shouldn't have been rich n famous, but he sure didn't deserve the transplant over a non drinker, especially proving it afterwards by continuing to abuse it.

However, I'm happy for any of my bits to go to anyone, I leave it in the doctor's hands to choose what goes where, my only stupid and squeamish decision is I want to keep my eyes. I know it doesn't matter after death, but still, it's my decision in the end. I guess I view it as, they could hollow me out completely and I wouldn't look different, but if the coffin lid falls off, I don't want my family to see me with glass eyes as I lay there.

I'm sure they seal the eyelids shut on the deceased anyway at the undertakers, but I'm just rambling now so I'll stop.

 

[Cali0602]

Do we leave working computer parts in a dead machine when we have another machine that could use and upgrade and a life-extension? Of course not. So why not ensure that all the usable parts of a dead human are put to good use? Are we seriously questioning this? Really?

 

[Vrach]

I'm not sure if you realise how organ donation works. It's not a "hey, we have a guy with a bad lung, let's give him one of this guy's, he's a donor". It's a "ok, this person (you) is pronounced dead, let's harvest all the salvageable organs and give them to the people who need them most ASAP".

First off, organs don't last forever. You can't just put them in a jar and dispense them when your family needs them. They go to the first person available (look up organ transplant lists), there's a very small time window where they're usable.

Second, I'm not sure about smokers (imagine it's the same), but alcoholics don't get your liver. There's an exclusion list and alcoholism and similar stuff are definitely there, organs are given to the people which are perceived as those who will make good use of them. Not sure on the specifics, but when you're on the transplant list itself for a liver, you can't so much as have a drink, at least in the US.

 

[Caligulove]

Well there's only so much that you can donate- plus depends on the health of your own organs, the circumstances of your death that affect your organs and your health before the event of your death. But then there's also the Organ Donor list. If you're really concerned about what's going to happen to your organs if you were to die- then do some research on it.

Controversial subject and you can argue that no one really wins or sometimes some injustice from loopholes or whatever it might be. But obviously, habitual smokers, patients with lung disease or other patients with renal failure and dialysis would be placed fairly low on the donor list for a lung or kidney, respectively- especially if their condition was caused by excessive smoking or alcohol consumption.

 

[Kaytastrophe]

I don't think someone should be restricted from receiving organs because they smoked, drank whatever. Personally, my dad is a heavy smoker who has tried numerous times to quit and is probably killing his lungs. However, he also (ironically) works for a hospital and helps in saving peoples' lives, he is a loving father and husband, and does volunteer work around the community. Therefore, even though he may be responsible for the demise of his own lungs, does that mean he is not deserving to get a second chance. By denying him organs you are essentially letting a man die who gives so much back to the community, all because of a decision he made back in high school.

Also if we are talking about deserving people of organs should we also consider the obese? Surely poor dietary and exercise choices are the result of a number of obese people with weak hearts and such. What about athletes who kill their body with steroids? Or what if the patients disease is the result of the mother drinking or smoking while pregnant? Ultimately everyone makes mistakes and has vices they deal with. However, usually these people also do good and are beneficial to society in some way. If you wanted to limit your organs to so called deserving people, you may find that there a few people eligible for your organs.

 

[Yopaz]

Well, I learnt from watching Desperate Housewives (At least I think it was Desperate Housewives) that you could give your kidneys to specific people. I don't know about other organs, but I don't see why it would be any different.

These are 2 separate cases. You're either thinking live donations or heritage donations. He's thinking about the donor card that you can get so they can harvest your organs if you die in an accident.

OT: Your lungs WONT go to a smoker. None of your organs will go to anyone who has smoked, committed a crime or used drugs or alcohol in some time. That's not an issue since the rules for receiving organs are very strict. Seriously, check the rules before you start whining about them.

 

[Sudenak]

Just seems like a petty thing to say.

I'm an organ donor, because I don't care what happens to my organs once I kick it. I barely care about them now. If my pathetic existence could be punctuated by saving someone's life after death, I'll gladly take that. One human dies, the other gets to live. Works for me.

It bothers me that you would refuse to give up your organs if it meant they MIGHT go to a druggie. You're not a psychic, I'm not a psychic. But your assumption is foul at best. You can't assume you know everything about every individual patient, when they all have unique reasons for the path they choose. So it's better to let another human die because of your petty "War on Drugs" style vengeance? S'wrong with you, boy.

 

[Furious Styles]

Smoker's deserve a second chance too, they're people just like you and me. Most of them are probably good and decent and have people that love them, so what if they made a mistake when they were younger they haven't been able to fix. Would you deny someone with high cholesterol and heart disease a new heart just because they've eaten too much fatty food over the course of their life? Don't be so fucking high and mighty.

edit- I've marked down everything as being good for donation except my corneas. Call me irrational, but I don't want them taking my eyes!