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Anti Nudist Cupcake

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[If you are in a hurry, the main point of the discussion is in the 3rd paragraph]

Yes yes yes I know what you are probably thinking. "Don't mess with that stuff it's dangerous!" or "It's totally fake and you are and idiot for even starting this discussion" or "Nah bro people should have fun with the stuff" or "I like to dress up as a flower and pretend I can photosynthesize".

Ok well maybe not the last one, or at least I hope not. The thing is, I heard a discussion some old woman was having with teenagers about these "ouja boards", the supposed links to communicating with the dead. I didn't really take it seriously but it is my belief that if something is to be denied as fact then it must be done PROPERLY which lead me to quickly googling around to find out just how the stuff works. What it comes down to is that two or more people hold a piece of glass or something on a board containing the words "yes, "no", the alphabet and numbers 0 to 9. They then press gently against it without deliberately trying to manipulate the letters or numbers it lands on. After "warming it up" for a while the users ask questions, let the spirits "guide" their hands on the piece of glass or whatever and spell out words.

What quickly googling has not managed to answer is if the board ALWAYS spells out actual English words or words in whatever language the users grew up with, that if this board is fake and works purely on random muscle movements then wouldn't the board occasionally spell out something in the lines of "aeuhg645ujn" as the characters would be selected completely at random and thus rarely give actual words and sentences as results? Or is the outcome of the characters chosen less involuntarily than the users are claiming to be? Are users actually deciding what letters to land on and what gets spelled out? If so then why the hell would people be so fascinated by it and why has this not turned up on the first page of the google results I quickly looked over?

Have you ever used/seen someone use one of these boards? And please give proper reasons for your interpretation of these boards that explain why you are certain that they are or are not real.

I do not feel I worded this whole thing properly but I'd like to see a response before I edit it a little to be more clear on what I want to know.
 

Jonluw

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The letters aren't picked at random.
The participants sub-consciously move the glass or other marker to spell out the right answer.
It works on the ideomotor effect. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect]

If you make the participants wear a blindfold and turn the board around without their knowing, they will still move the marker to the places where they think the letters that make out the correct answer lie. Instead of spelling out anything useful they'll just spell out nonsense.

Oujia boards are fairly well understood as a phenomenon. In fact, they weren't even viewed as anything spiritual when they first where invented as a product.
They were viewed as a parlor trick. Only in recent years have people started attributing the movement of the marker to ghosts. Hasbro inc. currently owns the license to ouija boards. They recently tried to publish a pink ouija board aimed at little girls. This caused some uproar in the American fundamental christian community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouija

If you want a more extensive explanation of why oujia boards are bullshit, here is an episode of Penn & Teller's bullshit where they both explain why it's bullshit and perform experiments to prove it:

For some extra fun: Find someone with a ouija board and ask them to uncover some information about the spirit that the person operating the board has no way of already knowing.
The ouija board only answers questions the users know the answer to, so it's pretty useless.
 

Lectori Salutem

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Never seen someone use them, but I highly doubt those claims. either they lie, or the suggestion causes people to unconsciously spell out stuff.
It was first released as a toy, I don't know why it would be mystical. (unless ghosts like Hasbro)

EDIT: completely ninja'd. I think I should hit 'post' as soon as I'm done typing
 

Quaxar

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It's funny how the first answer already said all there is to the topic. I think we may close this thread now... Reeeeeed Guard!
 

Muspelheim

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I don't know why, but... No, don't like Ouja boards very much. It's probably superstition on my part, it's just a hunk of wood, but still.

But even if I weren't a bit of a Ouja-luddite, I'd still not be very impressed. It's just a bit of plank that people reads too much into.
 

Aidinthel

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Anyone superstitious enough to think Oujia boards are dangerous would instantly lose a great deal of respect from me. They're just silly superstitious nonsense.
 

DANEgerous

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My main point? I used one once it told me i would marry a lesbian who now lives in chili. Yeah that is all the bullshit I need if those things.
 

Helmholtz Watson

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Lagao said:
I'm fine with Ouija boards...

but you'll never get me to play Jumanji after seeing that movie.

OP: Wait, is there any actual proof that Ouja boards actually work? Otherwise I guess it would always spell the word right because people are moving it.
 

Nuuu

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That explains everything.

Or moreso that Calvin & The Hobbs comic strip on it, don't feel like posting it up though. Just others moving it.
 

geK0

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I was under the impression that one or more of the participants would intentionally spell things that would scare their friends in order to troll them : \

also, I thought they were called luigi boards (or weejie boards) for the longest time.
 

Al-Bundy-da-G

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You mean the pieces of wood plank made by Hasbro and demonized during the 1980's along with long hair, D&D, and rock n' roll, by bored Christians with nothing better to do with their time?
 

TehCookie

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I've used a homemade one, where it was just a large sheet of paper with a dousing chain instead of the glass thing. It may just be subconscience twitches that causes the chain to spin and stop, but I have no explanation for it being pulled from my hand. That's why I believe it can work, though 99% of the time it is just people making things up. If it didn't happen to me I would think the person is lying and I don't expect anyone to believe me.
 

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The photographer Weegee was named after the Ouija board after he would turn up to crime scenes just after they had been reported to authorities. He actually had an (illegal at the time in the 30's and 40's) police scanner built into his car.
 

Starik20X6

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We sell them at my work. I just tell people "if it's not working it means you need to light more candles." We only sell the 'board game' ones though, which tends to upset some of the more believing.
 

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Al-Bundy-da-G said:
You mean the pieces of wood plank made by Hasbro and demonized during the 1980's along with long hair, D&D, and rock n' roll, by bored Christians with nothing better to do with their time?
Yeah that's what the OP is on about. The harmless novelty boardgame that has no ties to spirituality in any way aside from how the media and interest groups present it.

OP: It's rubbish for the aforementioned reasons.
 

Phasmal

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Used one along with Derren Brown's Seance when I was 14, with my parents. We're all big Derren Brown fans.

It didn't work. We didn't expect it to, my parents had been hitting the wine that night anyway. It was just a fun thing to do. I like fake-spooky things (I bloody love Halloween).

The people who are like `OMG ITS DANGEROUS` make me laugh. I once got told off by my friend for touching her mum's tarot cards (`Because it's dangerous to touch ones that don't belong to you!`).
 

Jonluw

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Phasmal said:
The people who are like `OMG ITS DANGEROUS` make me laugh. I once got told off by my friend for touching her mum's tarot cards (`Because it's dangerous to touch ones that don't belong to you!`).
Damn, I would've been so tempted to just spread the cards out over my chest and rub them around while making 'mmmm' noises.

I do have a friend who believes in that kind of stuff, and I am civil around him and all, but it's fucking frustrating to listen to.
 

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RazadaMk2 said:
Jonluw said:
Cheers for posting everything I was going to post. Also, cheers for that show, was an interesting distraction from trying to clean my room.
Hey, my pleasure.
Just thought I'd let you know that they've made plenty of episodes of that show dealing with various issues.
The quality of their arguments varies though, so I think it's really more fun to watch the episodes where they're just dealing with utter nutjobs.
 

Phasmal

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Jonluw said:
Phasmal said:
The people who are like `OMG ITS DANGEROUS` make me laugh. I once got told off by my friend for touching her mum's tarot cards (`Because it's dangerous to touch ones that don't belong to you!`).
Damn, I would've been so tempted to just spread the cards out over my chest and rub them around while making 'mmmm' noises.

I do have a friend who believes in that kind of stuff, and I am civil around him and all, but it's fucking frustrating to listen to.
I did touch all of them while she was in the other room. Just because.

I know someone who is into them too, but we dont talk about it because our conversations mainly go:

Him: `Want to know how it works?`
Me: `It doesn't`.